Monday, August 22, 2005

Yes, Mistakes Were Made...
Aruba Prime Minister Says Officials Made Mistakes at Start of Investigation of Missing U.S. Teen. Beth Holloway Twitty, who has often criticized authorities on the Dutch Caribbean island since her daughter disappeared on May 30, met in private with Prime Minister Nelson



Van Zandt: Looking for answers in Aruba
Former FBI profiler talks about his encounter with Kalpoe brother

Joran No Stranger To Holloway's Group
He'd been hanging out with them all week, according to one of Holloway's friends

Source: Joran Van der Sloot Combative In Jail
A Confidential source with knowledge of a recent fight between Joran Van der Sloot and another individual currently held in the same jail has reported that the fight took place during a soccer match during a recreational period. The boy involved in the scuffle with Van der Sloot was a smaller individual but managed to land what was described as "a few good shots." The extent of any injuries is unclear, but this could be what resulted in recent reports of his having been seen with a black eye

Video of Deepak back to Carlos & Charlies
Here is some exclusive video MSNBC caught of Deepak Kalpoe returning to Carlos N’ Charlies, the place Natalee Holloway was last seen. He ducks when he sees the camera.



(Download and view video here)

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I think everyone should read this before creating their own theories !

9:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante Bet, Are you a Van Der Sloot? I have a suspicion you are.

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Blogger Tante Bet said...

admin pls remove the spammers.... !

No I am not a van der Sloot, didn't know of their existence before all this started.

Just from the beginning of this whole story something struck me as not right when all the Yanks were all over Joran.

My reasons for this were (and are);

a. here you have a normal Dutch fam living in Aruba, just average upper-middle-class, not rich but with a sense of taste (ref their designer furniture). With 3 kids all boys, dad a lawyer preparing to be a judge one day, mother...? -a teacher-? forgot.

b. Joran is seen on his blog, I think now off-line, with numerous girlfriends, at parties having fun. He is in school all seems very normal to me.

c. enters the scene: one spoiled wannabe rich kid, from the USA. front row of the church on Sunday, finished high school, starting college..... lets have a few wild days in Aruba, away from scrutiny of the neighbours & church. Lets get wild, drunk try some drugs while we are at it.... ?

d. she disappears and all Yanks are focused on only one thing: “let's hang the last person presumed to have been with her”, no proof needed, a lynch mob like in the old days. Joran as a white nigger.

e. here are the ONLY known facts: http://scrux.com/natalee/ the rest is speculation.

f. and what pisses me off is that the USA seems to be full of people like Pat Robertson....

12:08 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

The USA is always about killing people, Joran, Hugo Chavez, Sadam, Iraqi's, Afghans, Castro, North Koreans, Iranians, etc. etc the list goes on and on.

If you have the stomach for it, this is how it looks: http://www.nowthatsfuckedup.com/bbs/ftopic11859.html
These ar pics send in by US soldiers in Iraq and an occasional Iraqi showing some dead US soldiers.

This is the world that the US is creating !!

12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And whenever anything catastrophic happens in the world, the U.S. government/people are always ready and willing to send aid, donations, etc. to help out other nations. But as soon as the event is over, the world goes back to bashing the U.S. You'd think the people of the U.S. would learn, but that's not the kind of people we are.

1:21 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

We the Dutch give the highest percentage in the world of our GDP to aid.......
back to you !

6:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I seriously doubt your po-dunk country gives more than the U.S.A. or Great Britain governments and private citizens.....but you can live in your little propaganda filled world if you chose to.

9:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT?!? When did we "KILL" Sadam? Last I heard, he was on trial with his OWN people for the mercyless crimes he committed against them!?!? Good thing he has someone like Tante to stand up for him, bc his OWN PEOPLE are certainly NOT going to do it!!!!!

With Love,
Proud Yank!

9:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Tante!

"c. enters the scene: one spoiled wannabe rich kid, from the USA. front row of the church on Sunday, finished high school, starting college..... lets have a few wild days in Aruba, away from scrutiny of the neighbours & church. Lets get wild, drunk try some drugs while we are at it.... ?"

YES, I totally agree with the part of her going there to cut lose and have a good time.

And based on that... you are saying that she got what she deserved? Man, I guess about 99% of us deserve the same thing that she got...... and I mean Americans, Arubans, Whites, Blacks, HUMANS! We all cut lose from time to time, but that does not mean that we deserve to just disappear off of the face of the earth for it!

You are really defensive or Joran and as much as I admire you for coming up with your own point of view and not letting others dictate how you feel about his guilt or innocence..... it does make me wonder........ do you HONESTLY think that it is not suspicious that he was the last one seen with her, all alone, on the beach, after a night of partying and then POOF, she was NEVER seen or heard from again!?!? REALLY? If you honestly think that he should not be the PRIME SUSPECT in this case, then I have some ocean front property in Arizona that I will make you a great deal on! OHHH and you would be totally surrounded by YANKS if you lived there! :-)

As for you clear HATRED of the Americans........... LET IT GO, that is NOT what this is about, at least for the rest of us!

10:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Tante I second that motion.

You are doing to the Americans what you are accusing them of doing to us

Just let it go girl, be happy, don't be so full of hate, it is ugly and don't bring it to Aruba if you really do come

3:21 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Anonymous 1.
percentage of our GDP, look mit up if you don't know what it means...


Anonymous 2.
You tried plenty times to kill Sadam. Also do you know who Pat Robertson is ? He is a Yank also on a killing spree :)


Anonymous 3.
"suspicious that he was the last one seen with her"
Sure it is, that's why he is in jail... but without proof, evidence, body, DNA or anything that does not make him guilty.
Remember he MAY have been the last person to heve been with her.... think abpout that.
Would you like to be accused of murder/rape/ etc whatever you Yanks are dreaming up, if you MAY have just been the last person to have seen a 'missing person'.

In the USA almost 800.000 people go "missing" each year, why not kill all the last people that mAY have been with them, just for justice Yankee style (that would come to what 1.5 million peole for your electric chairs ?

If Joran is guilty, prove it! & let him rot in jail for the next years. If you cannot prove it pay him $10 mil for all the harm you have done him :)

4:45 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

OK here we go:

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just 3 typo's quite good today...

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante!

"Sure it is, that's why he is in jail... but without proof, evidence, body, DNA or anything that does not make him guilty."

Correction.......... it does not get him convicted! His own actions have shown his guilt. You know it's true..... but you just LOVE to argue to much to admit it! And we can thank the Aruban LE for the fact that there is probably no longer any proof/evideance to be found. BOTCHED INVESTIGATION from the beginning...... even their own Prime Minister agrees.....

9:10 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Sorry for you but
a. he will not be convicted ! On the basis of what, no evidence but just 'coz Beth wants it and the US media ? Doesn't work like that. Proof is needed in any civilised scociety...
and
b."his actions have shown his guilt", huh what action ? he has been in jail/prison simce june 9th (or was it 10th?).

That Joran was arrested is his own fault.
The story of bringing her back to the hotel, was just an attempt to say "we had nothing to do with her missing".
So he is paying 76 days already for this mistake.

I am convinced that the (cell)phone records/pc HDD's etc will tell the timeline.
His 30 to max 40 minutes alone with her is just not enough for a quicky and a perfect murder plot.

Still think he will be out 4th Sept, but whatever 146 days the max as I understand it and coming up soon.

For the Dutch readers here: http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/57129 "Beelden Joran niet op Amerikaanse tv"
As can be read Joran can moove to The Netherlands any time, just 2% seem to think he may be guilty, 98% don't believe the US media circus that Beth has put up.

9:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Correction.... not sorry for me, but sorry for Natalee that he will most likely NOT be convicted! She is the victim here. I know that you think that HE is, but again.. you are wrong. He is alive, she is most likely dead.

"b."his actions have shown his guilt", huh what action ? he has been in jail/prison simce june 9th (or was it 10th?)."

Lets see here..... he has lied over and over about what happened that night. Once he comes up with a NEW version... and they prove it wrong, then he says "OH WAIT, silly me.. .he-he I forgot...THIS is what really happened"

There is now ANOTHER discrepancy in his story. He was saying that he walked home and that is what Satish and Deepak are saying that he said to them also... but OOPPPSSS, he has also now said that he got a ride. BUT he can't remember who it was who drove him home or WHEN!

See, he continues to make up lies, because the truth would most likely convict him. I know that you think that 17 year old just lie, so it should just be ignored.

Also, the Netherlands can have him! His orginal plan of coming to the US for his education is probably not his smartest choice.

10:57 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

The fact that he told a different story at the start does not mean a thing and certainly does not make him guilty of anything. However much you Yanks would like that...

"His orginal plan of coming to the US for his education is probably not his smartest choice."

You are right that was another bad choice..... so now he can come back to Holland and live a normal life again.

Sept 4th !

6:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh BULLSHIT you dumbass!!!!!! Tante you are stupid!

9:55 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

anonymous said...

How eloquent you are :) Yankee, perhaps ?? *eg*

10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GIRL, anything that comes from you just roll off our backs..... we all know how "ELOQUENT" you are.

And yes, PROUD to be an American!

11:27 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Proud of what ?

1:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH YES, it looks like Tante is SLLIIPPPIINNGG!

1:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You are right that was another bad choice..... so now he can come back to Holland and live a normal life again."

Sounds good! Let your girls be in danger instead of ours!

2:32 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Yep, the real killer is a classmate !

Remember Sept 4th now, don't forget !

4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tante - remember sept 5th now, don't forget!!!!

4:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HHHAAA, yes tante.... we will all be here waiting for you on Sept 5th!

5:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how do u know the real killer is a classmate?? I think u did it, or u know who it is and u should tell someone. and by the way, Aruba's economy depends on the USA so the probably employ yo mamma and daddy as janitors or garbagemen-

1:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante is not a van der sloot, maybe a wanna be though!

She is only here bc she hates Americans! That is the one true reason for her pathetic existance!

1:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why would anyone want to be a van der sloot? What a sleazy white trash family!! They obviously think the monster that they have raised is cute and precious and if he drugs, rapes and murders girls, so what....they still think he's adorable! And there are two more at home just like him!!! The sleazy, f-up van der sloot's are in need of some serious parenting classes. But I guess it just goes along with the Dutch as a general rule have no morals or values. Drugs are legal in Holland as well as prostitution.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tante -
are you a prostitute? Is that why you have so much time during the day to post here? Who'd want a 52 year old Dutch whore?

10:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tante is a psycho!

10:26 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

A judge on Thursday ordered the release of a Dutch teenager who has been jailed for nearly three months in the disappearance of an Alabama honors student and said he would be freed this weekend, the youth's father said.

7:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just thought I would share this post from blogsfornatalee.com:

Comment by From Aruba — September 2, 2005 @ 2:02 pm
Oh my goodness! Please let me apologize for the ignorant comments made by those of my country such as Mad or Tante. There is no excuse for such behavior. Most of the Dutch feel quite the contrary. We do support Nat her family and America in this case. And yes, I do think that those who are guilty should be punished to the full extent of the law. I do hope that now that they’ve released Joran that he’ll slip up and say something that will cause him and whoever else is responsible to be convicted and punished for this haneous act. And like many of you I do believe that he and the Kalpoe brothers and Paul are all probably guilty. They just look too suspicious and have lied way too much. And the witness that said he saw them all at the dump together had no reason to lie or make up that story so I for one do believe him. I don’t know why Paul’s wife doesn’t divorce him, I see him out with a different woman every night that I see him. But please don’t judge all of us by the few stupid people on here that make such comments. I can see that you all have your share of that to. That Steve charachter’s post are really annoying, offensive, and silly. We all need to just ignore all these ignorant folks and maybe they’ll go somewhere else. I do enjoy reading everyone’s different views on this case and respect everyone’s right to express them, although people that make insulting and ignorant comments such as Mad or Steve are uncalled for. And what all Mad accused you Americans of doing, such as all of the luxury stuff and whatever else he has said, we are guilty of doing all the same things. Bottom line is that none of us are perfect so people like Mad should not be complaining and pointing fingers. Well, the best of luck to Natalee’s family. My hopes and prayer go out to you.

2:25 PM  
Anonymous river-52 said...

Sigh!

12:14 PM  

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