Sunday, September 25, 2005

Joran: Targeted For Death
Police on two continents have been alerted to a plot to kill Joran van der Sloot and two other prime suspects in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway.



Natalee Holloway Search Continues
Despite the lack of media attention or the fact that all suspects have been released from custody, searches do continue in Aruba in the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.



Joran's MSN Name
Only God Can Judge Me.....

150 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kind of god you have, Joran? Rumors said you are only sixteen with respect to your birth record in Holland. Is that true?

2:52 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Ah, a new garbadgebag!

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody lies about your age, not you, Joran. You are innocent.

4:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran: Targeted For Death

This is something written in the National Enquirer, and all the sudden people are going to believe it. All the people who believe it must be stupid, because everyone knows that the National Enquirer is known for all of its lies and gossip!

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante, better tell Joran not to be a fool and believe in God. You wouldn't want him wasting his time as you've accused so many others of doing.

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There have been warnings about mercenaries who are prepared to kill them, and violent people just waiting for the right moment," said the source. "I wouldn't even be surprised if Joran's mother or brother were kidnapped — his enemies might figure it's the only way to get Joran to talk."


Who in their right mind would want to kidnap Joran's mom??? You have to be pretty damn hard up for a story to write garbage like this!

5:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arnhem police spokesman Gohan Rongen acknowledged that they were aware of Joran's presence there. Asked about death threats, he said: "I can't give you any information."



He cannot give any information, because there is none to give. Joran is not targeted for death. This is just the Van der sloots way of getting all the publicity thety can. And if it it's not already bad enough they want us to feel bad for them while we are at it. HAHAHA...They are just as bad as all of you guys say Beth is. They are just trying to make him look like a poor little innocent baby who needs to be protected. He's a rapist and probably a killer himself so I am sure he could handle it.

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor has it, you love me too.

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

somepeople do not care if he is innocent or not. People have threatened joran on this space and others. Sad part watch if he is killed or hurt, Natalee will show up alive.

5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is a sixteen year old kid, still a little baby, How could he learn to kill anyone?

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOOD I hope Natalee does show up alive...could give a crap less what happens to any of the guys that were involved, they dug their own graves let them lay in them, if they would not have changed stories so many times then people would not be so angry at them. We all had faith in them at the begining that they were innocent then they changed their stories so I guess we all lost faith in them. Like the Kalpoe mom said "They lie. We all lie." She basically gave the answer right there. They are a bunch of liars and the truth will eventually come out, and I hope it will be sooner rather than later.

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How old do you think you have to be to kill someone. Hell look at all these places in the East where little boy start training to kill people at age six. So don't tell me Joran could and would not kill someone!

5:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

*little boys

5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
Wednesday, June 29, 2005

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ARCHIVE SHOW INFO
•Where Is Taylor Behl?
September 21, 2005•Reaction to President's Katrina Pledge
September 16, 2005•John Roberts in the Hot Seat
September 13, 2005•Katrina Hammers New Orleans Justice System
September 09, 2005•New Orleans' Makeshift Jail
September 08, 2005•Horror at the Convention Center
September 07, 2005•Sen. Clinton Surveys Katrina Aftermath
September 06, 2005•Daring Rescue Missions in New Orleans
August 31, 2005•Inside Hurricane Katrina
August 30, 2005•Kalpoe Brothers Re-Arrested
August 30, 2005•Free and Clear?
August 24, 2005•Aruba Admission
August 23, 2005•Natalee's Mom Responds to Kalpoe Complaint
August 10, 2005•Another American Missing in Aruba
August 09, 2005•Suspects' Lawyers Go 'On the Record'
August 04, 2005•Are Aruban Cops Confident Natalee Will Be Found?
August 03, 2005•Natalee Holloway's Hometown
August 02, 2005•Reward for Natalee Holloway Hits $1 Million
July 26, 2005•'OTR' Exclusive: New Natalee Holloway Video
July 22, 2005•Jungle Jack Hanna
July 21, 2005•Supreme Reaction
July 20, 2005•New Clues in Holloway Case?
July 19, 2005•Jane Seymour Goes 'On the Record'
July 19, 2005•Woodward and Bernstein on 'Deep Throat'
July 13, 2005•Explosive Report in Aruba
July 12, 2005•Florida Braces for Dennis
July 10, 2005•Emergency Response in London
July 08, 2005•Growing Frustration in Aruba
July 06, 2005•Paul van der Sloot's Changing Story
June 30, 2005•Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
June 29, 2005•Transcript: Greta in Aruba
June 24, 2005•Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
June 23, 2005•Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
June 22, 2005•Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
June 21, 2005•Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
June 17, 2005•Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
June 16, 2005•No Regrets? Tom Sneddon Responds
June 15, 2005•Jermaine and Tito Jackson React to Verdict
June 14, 2005•David Gest Goes 'On the Record'
June 10, 2005•Off the Hook?
June 09, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Tonight, stunning new information could show police made a serious mistake in the Natalee Holloway (search) investigation. Earlier today, we spoke with Mickey John, one of the former security guards who was arrested and then later released. He told us some shocking stories about what he learned while he was behind bars.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

VAN SUSTEREN: So, Mickey, when you got picked up, did you ever think that you'd be getting out?

MICKEY JOHN, FORMER SUSPECT: Yes, I was positive. I knew I'd be out. Sooner or later I would be out because I knew I was very innocent. All the way I know I was innocent, 150 percent innocent.

VAN SUSTEREN: So what happened? Were you home and the police suddenly showed up?

JOHN: Yes, I was home sleeping around 6:20 (INAUDIBLE) morning. (INAUDIBLE) showed up, bust the (INAUDIBLE) I heard said, "You're under arrest." Nobody read my rights, nobody said nothing. All this commotion the police said to me that, "You cooperating, we cooperate with. You're under arrest. That's it, let's go."

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VAN SUSTEREN: What was the first thing they did when you got to the police station? They put you in a cell, or they talk to you?

JOHN: No, they talked to me. Put me sit down, maybe handcuff (INAUDIBLE) after the guy say, "You know why you're here. You're for the missing girls. And now we're going to read your rights to you and you will sign it" (INAUDIBLE)

VAN SUSTEREN: At some point, Deepak was brought in to the same facility, Deepak Kalpoe (search), right?

JOHN: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ever know him before?

JOHN: I never saw him before, never in my entire life. I never saw him before.

VAN SUSTEREN: Had you ever heard of him at that point, that there was someone else who might be picked up in this case?

JOHN: Well, before I was locked up, I heard the news that there was - - the girl was last seen with three guys, which is two Suriname guys and the Dutch guy. So I knew there was at least three people more involved in this case, which should be picked up in the first instant, because they were last seen with the girl.

VAN SUSTEREN: So you were picked up on Sunday, Deepak picked up within the following Thursday, is that right?

JOHN: I guess so. Yes, more or less, yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Between Sunday and Thursday, were you able to get any outside information about what was going on in the case, or were you just simply in the cell and interrogated from time to time?

JOHN: They just interrogated me the Sunday and the following Monday. And that was it. I was just locked up. And only I could see anybody. And my lawyer came to me and that was it.

But then Deepak came, and he introduced himself as Deepak. And he said he was being picked up for the missing girl. I felt relief, because I know I can throw a few questions from him to see if I get something from him.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think Deepak knew who you were?

JOHN: No (INAUDIBLE) never knew who he was, because he certainly was calling me Jamaican. He thought I was from Jamaica. So he was just talking to me freely and, you know, no problem.

I spoke to him more, and I tell him, "Tell me the truth," asking, "You saw the guy on the news?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Where the guy from?" He tell me, he think from Grenada. And right away, I knew he was talking about me, because I was the only one from Grenada.

So I decided to ask him a few more questions. And I said, "So you tell the guy (INAUDIBLE) what happened to the girl?" He said, "No." (INAUDIBLE) arrested on Thursday. I think a guy should be released that Friday, because, in their hearts, they know we were innocent.

He said a story being made up about dropping the girl of at a Holiday Inn, was all something being made up. He, and the Dutch guy, and the Dutch guy's father, they sit and made up the story.

VAN SUSTEREN: The father, too?

JOHN: All of them. They made up...

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he specifically say — Deepak specifically say to you the father was part of that?

JOHN: Deepak told me that he and the family sit down and they made up the story.

VAN SUSTEREN: So family and not father?

JOHN: Well, I don't know who the family consists of. But I know the father was involved, according to him. They made up the story, and they say that they didn't drop the girl off, because they said they would give the police something to (INAUDIBLE) when somebody is missing in Aruba, they would find them a few days later by a crack house or with some beach bum or something.

So they made it up. But then, when push come to shove, and nothing was going on, he decided to tell his brother, "We're going to tell the truth and say exactly what took place," because he — I guess that much, he, by that time, he and the Dutch guy were saying different stories, so something wasn't going right.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did they say why they created the lie?

JOHN: Like I told you, they say like — they were hoping that something the girl would pop up or something, a few days after. And as I said, they drop her off at the Holiday Inn talking to a black guy, security guard dressed in black clothes. Said they know, like, everybody in public knows a tourist has been missing. They would find them a few days later, by, like I said, by some crack house or with some beach bum. So they made up something hoping that she would show up a few day and then they say, "OK, it all good. There she comes."

VAN SUSTEREN: But under the now story, which is that they dropped the Dutch teen and Natalee off at the beach, Deepak and Satish hadn't done anything wrong. So why did they need a cover story?

JOHN: Well, I don't know. I think these people, they have a plot together. He, as you can see (INAUDIBLE) so they, together with the Dutch guy, decide, "Maybe we can plan something," because they were together — they left the nightclub together. They were together.

The wouldn't say what happened with the girl, if he had fought with the girl. But they said they weren't — he told me they went to the California lighthouse. On their way back, they dropped the Dutch guy with Natalee close to the Marriott Hotel. He and his brother, Deepak, they went home.

VAN SUSTEREN: How certain are you that that your memory is correct that the family or the father was involved in creating this cover-up story?

JOHN: Well, he told me — he, all of them, sit and make up the story. He, Dutch guy, and the family. He told me they made up a story that they said they dropped the girl off at the Holiday Inn. She was talking to a black guy, security guard specific, dressed in black pants, black top.

VAN SUSTEREN: So what percentage certain are you that he said family or father that was involved in this?

JOHN: He said family.

VAN SUSTEREN: So you're certain?

JOHN: I'm certain.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he ever mention any text messages or e-mails?

JOHN: No. He only said that, while he was home, he went on his computer to chat with some friend. And the Dutch guy sent him a text message on his cell phone saying that when he got home he would also chat with him online. So he said automatically this guy was still out at the time he and his brother was home.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he say what that message said?

JOHN: No, he didn't. He just said — the message said that, when he got home, he would talk to him online. He didn't say anything else.

VAN SUSTEREN: How did he seem to be adjusting to being in jail?

JOHN: Well, to me, he was very, very calm. He spoke very calm. When they open my door to go out and see my lawyer, and passed the front of his cell, he was looking very calm. I would call him every five minutes and say, "Deepak, are you OK?" And he would say, "Yes, I'm OK." So he was very — looked relaxed to me.

VAN SUSTEREN: Didn't look worried?

JOHN: No, he was only stressed thing — he was only stressing that we would be out very soon, me, and he, and my friend who was locked up, and his brother. He was saying that, "We will be out very soon, and the Dutch guy he knew would remain in custody."

VAN SUSTEREN: He thought the Dutch guy would remain in custody?

JOHN: Yes, he said, "We would be out soon," but he told me the Dutch guy will remain in custody because he know he was the last — they dropped him off with the girl at the Marriott. And I think he's holding back something, the guy (INAUDIBLE) the father made up the story. He should know what took place.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he say why he was willing to make up the story?

JOHN: Well, I guess they wanted (INAUDIBLE) maybe the Dutch guy have some power on them, they all friends, and the family stick and talk and say, "We're going to stick to that, and that's it," you know? Trade in some black guy, scapegoat, lock him up, I guess so.

VAN SUSTEREN: Anyone apologize to you?

JOHN: Not yet. Only Deepak, so far, in the jail. He apologize to me, tell me sorry because the story I was being locked up. Nobody else.

VAN SUSTEREN: So at some point, he realized who you were?

JOHN: I told him. I told him it was me, the security guard.

VAN SUSTEREN: What did he say when you told him who you were?

JOHN: He told me sorry, he was very sorry. And it is not because of their fault I was being locked up.

VAN SUSTEREN: Police ever apologize?

JOHN: Sorry?

VAN SUSTEREN: Did the police apologize?

JOHN: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did the government of Aruba (search), anyone from the justice ministry, anybody like that apologize?

JOHN: Not yet, no. No one.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think you'll ever get an apology?

JOHN: I don't think so. I don't need their apology anymore, anyway.

VAN SUSTEREN: Anything else you'd like to say?

JOHN: Well, like I said before, the justice system, the detectives, they're all fools. They have to go to back to school. And they were used, like, a scapegoat, use, like, a black person in society to cover their mess.

So don't ever try it again with nobody, because they know we are innocent. And let justice prevail. And we know we will find the right person.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

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6:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See they are all guilty...and Joran's dad probably got rid of Natalee some how.

6:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bravo!! You win the biggest dumbass yank award of the year. Are you proud of yourself. You get your "reliable" sources from tabloid journalism and quotes from confirmed fabrication and falsehoods spread by Beth. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

What a loser you are!

WANT THE TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

GET YOUR FACTS FROM THE SOURCE LOSER -

CONTACT THE FBI - Room 1400
2121 8th. Avenue N.
Birmingham, Alabama 35203-2396
birmingham.fbi.gov
(205) 326-6166

contact the Alabama Attorney General Troy King
@ 334-242-7300

6:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are all losers if you believe any of the shit on this site, and by the way calling people "Yanks" is getting really old. You don't see the Americans calling the Arubans Sand Niggers do you? Name calling is for 5th graders not mature people. So we now know who the ignorant people are.

6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN RAPED OR ASSAULTED OR GIVEN A DATE RAPE DRUG BY 18 year old twins - THOMAS TWITTY OR HUNTER TWITTY OR even JUG TWITTY - please come forward to:

HELPFINDNATALEE@COMCAST.NET.

You will have complete anonymity.


DISCLAIMER - THIS EMAIL ADDRESS HAS NO AFFILIATION TO ANY OF THE TWITTYS - ESPECIALLY BETH

DO NOT BE AFRAID - COME FORWARD - YOUR IDENTITY WILL BE KEPT ANONYMOUS - KEEP IN MIND IN THE USA IT IS A FEDERAL OFFENSE TO HARBOR CRIMINALS AND WITHHOLD INFORMATION FROM THE FBI. THE BOYS IN BLACK ARE WATCHING THE MOUNTAIN BROOK STUDENTS AND THE TWITTY TWINS ARE UNDER SURVEILLEANCE!!

6:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey anonymous 6:43 PM You are the only loser on here right now htat I can see so why don't you go get a life and 6:46 PM I agree the name calling is getting pretty old, but let them have fun they don't have anything better to do I guess. At least you know you are more mature than they will ever be.

Adam

6:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what kind of illegal drugs Joran is on? Since we all know Aruba is the place to get them!

6:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of us Yanks with IQ scores of 80, stand up and cheer. You are brighter than 9% of the population, so tante is actually paying us a compliment...we are not full fledged IDIOTS.

7:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who believes a bonafide liar named Beth who intentionally fabricates stories to deceive the masses without providing any evidence....is a full fledged idiot.

THE AMERICAN FBI has confirmed Beth Holloway - Twitty holds zero credibility and no evidence exists to back up anything Beth claims. Beth would like the public to believe such confessions and evidence exists. It does not.

YOU WANT THE TRUTH? YOU CAN't HANDLE THE TRUTH YANKEE LOSERS!!

GET THE FACTS - GET THE EVIDENCE FROM THE SOURCE DUMBASSES!!

CONTACT THE FBI - Room 1400
2121 8th. Avenue N.
Birmingham, Alabama 35203-2396
birmingham.fbi.gov
(205) 326-6166

contact the Alabama Attorney General Troy King
@ 334-242-7300

7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There we go again with the name calling you are the true idiot my friend! They I will call names for once.

7:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reasons I am not an idiot and you are:

1) I am not brainwashed by the media - you are

2) I have never and do not believe any of Beth's lies - you do.

3) I am not a yank - you are, how unfortunate

4) Joran, Deepak and Satish are innocent - Hunter and Thomas Twitty are guilty and they are yanks

5) THE FBI told you yanks BETH is a confirmed Liar and you still refuse to believe. YOU ARE THE BIGGEST IDIOTS IN THE WORLD HAAAAAAAAAA

Joran & Kalpoes are free and innocent and you are all guilty of being idiots and harboring fugitives from the law Thomas and Hunter Twitty and money launders Beth & JUg and frauds Marcia and Thomas at AM SOUHT BANK - parents of the gang rape twin cousins.

7:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get down girl! We got the message already. OKAY?

7:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow you are an even bigger idiot than I thought haha...you gave me a good laugh there, because I never said whose side I was on. I just said the name calling was very immature, but now I know why people are doing it. B/c of people like you!

8:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tante, as an arubian sand nigger, please please stop the insults of idiots and "yanks" (whatever that is) and stick to the facts. you would have much more credibility if you did. the fact is that you do not have any information. you spew insults which is insulting to fellow arubians here. you do more damage than you know. you throw out accusations against ms. twitty yet you have no facts or support than those who throw out allegations against our people. such a shame to stoop to the same level as the others. here is the evidence . . . and based on the evidence there is little case but circumstancial information. why not stick with that until more information is brought forward, if any?

The Evidence line - restricted to "facts in evidence."
This is an discussion about the Natalee Holloway disappearance and the possible trial of Joran Van der Sloot. The view of the the case is from the prosecution's perspective.
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In order to present the whole picture, we also have a section entitled "Unsubstantiated Information." This is for rumors, possible witnesses or information not yet in evidence, but theorized by some as having a possiblity of becoming evidence. Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the link to this special section.

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Only evidence can be used in a trial.
A judge on a Dutch three judge panel trial can only consider facts in evidence. A judge must exclude all irrelevant information or circumstances, which do not speak to the specifics of a crime and the culpability of the accused. Facts not in evidence and most speculations are irrelevant.

The purpose of the hearing is to determine, first," Has a crime been committed ? " A trial can only be brought, based on evidence (presented by the prosecution), which proves a missing person is dead, evidenced by a body or sufficient forensic evidence to indicate that a murder took place. However, a trial could also be brought without a body based on the testimony of credible witnesses that such a crime was indeed committed.

Secondly, if it is determined that the crime of murder was committed, the purpose of the court would be to determine the guilt or innocence of the person accused of the murder based solely on facts permitted in evidence. Circumstantial evidence can be admitted into the trial, but a conviction based only on circumstantial evidence is improbable unless there would be a convincing preponderance.

Any information, whether factual of speculative, about the history of the missing person or the accused, which would be considered unfairly prejudicial to the case will be excluded from the court proceedings.



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What are the "facts in evidence?"
What could be offered as evidence by the prosecution?
Although, other information is known about the missing person and about the accused, only what the court considers relevant will be allowed to be presented as evidence.

1. Late one Sunday evening May 29, 2005 from about 9:00 PM until about 1:30 AM (now Monday, May 30, 2005), an 18 year old girl, Natalee Holloway, a tourist to Aruba, was last seen at a Carlos 'n Charlies, a restaurant and bar, which is a popular eating, drinking and dancing establishment.
2. Natalee Holloway was seen leaving at the closing time of the restaurant, which was about 1:30 AM, Monday May 30, with three local men ( Satish Kalpoe, Deepak Kalpoe and Joran Van der Sloot). Deepak Kalpoe was driving. Satish Kalpoe the front seat. Joran and Natalee were in the back seat.
3. No witnesses state that they saw anything irregular about the event of her leaving. Natalee tells some of her fellow travelers and fellow bar attendees, who inquired about her "well being" outside the bar that she is "ok." Witnesses state that Ms Holloway does not appear to be impaired in any way. She is heard to yell cheerfully, "Aruba!" from the open car window as they depart.
4. In interview records (made available to Kalpoe attorneys), several of Natalee's fellow student travelers stated that as he was driving away, Deepak.stopped his car a short distance away from the area,"at the intersection next to the bus terminal" close to where Carlos 'n Charlies is located. They stated that it was at this intersection, not far from C&C's, where a group of the other students were waiting for taxis. Some of the students asked Natalee to get out of the car and be with them. She refused. They stated she said wanted to go for a drive with the three boys.
5. Natalee Holloway missed her flight back to Alabama, failing to show up in the lobby of her hotel for transportation to the airport at 10:30 AM the next day (Monday).
6. Between 3:00-5:00 am, the next morning (now Tuesday, May 31, 2005), Deepak Kalpoe and Joran Van der Sloot, were confronted in the middle of the night outside of the home of Joran Van der Sloot by a group of relatives and friends of Natalee Holloway, all of whom had arrived a few hours earlier from Natalee's home state of Alabama. The Alabama group was there along with two local policemen.
7. According to several witnesses, Deepak Kalpoe and Joran Van der Sloot told this group, where and when they last saw Natalee. They say that they dropped her off about 25-26 hours previously (2:00 AM Monday) in front of her hotel. One witness, a local businessman, Charles Croes who was in the group, is a key witness to Joran's comments, stating, " He told me that she had been doing drugs and possibly been drinking, too." Croes also said, " He repeated to me over and over again was his desire to help find her, that if there's anything he could do to help find her, he would, just please ask him, that kind of thing. It was a very scared young guy, who seemed to be wanting to help." Croes was asked, "Is there anything that he told you or he said that would suggest that he had any sort of inkling that she was missing and there was some foul play? Croes answered, "No."



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Statements revision history-
1. Voluntarily at the police station, all three men each give a statement regarding the events of the evening (and early morning) prior to Natalee Holloway missing her plane. Deepak Kalpoe and Joran Van der Sloot repeat the same statement made earlier. Satish Kalpoe (who had not been present at the early morning confrontation with police present), makes the same statement as the other two.
2. Days later, after being arrested for suspicion of a possible crime in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, and in jail, Satish Kalpoe and Deepak Kalpoe, separated from one another and from Joran Van der Sloot, each change their statement (this is to be their only revision), as follows:


a. Both Satish Kalpoe and Deepak Kalpoe say they dropped Joran Van der Sloot with Natalee Holloway at a local beach (Mariott beach, also known as Palm Beach) at about 2:00 am and arrived at their home shortly thereafter.
b. Satish's statement is that he went to sleep after arriving home.
c. Deepak Kalpoe's statement says:
Shortly after 2:00 am, after arriving home, he got on his computer . He offers logon records on the internet to verify this action and time.
2:30 am: He says that Joran telephoned (cellphone) Deepak and asked for a ride.
2:40 am: Joran called Deepak again, says he is walking home, that he left Natalee on beach. (cellphone grid triangulation shows Joran on the beach)
3:00 am: Deepak says that he is conversing in a computer chat room with a friend in the US.
3:15 am: Deepak states that Joran text messages Deepak saying he has arrived home.(cellphone grid triangulation shows Joran is at his home.)

(Source: Satish Kalpoe's attorney, David Kock, who states that computer and phone records confirm Deepak's statement and Joran's locations and times.)


3. Joran Van der Sloot made a second revision to his statement to agree with Satish Kalpoe's and Deepak Kalpoe's second statement (that Joran and Natalee were dropped on the beach), except in Joran Van der Sloot's second version, Joran further states that he left Natalee on the beach and he stated that Deepak Kalpoe picked him up in his car at the beach after his phone call and took him to the Van der Sloot home.
4. Throughout his custody, Joran Van der Sloot has never changed the part of his statement, which agrees with the final version of Satish Kalpoe.
5. After Joran Van der Sloot is shown the computer records (and Deepak's statement) Joran then makes a third revision to his statement to agree with Deepak Kalpoe's statement, that after he telephoned Deepak Kalpoe, Deepak did not pick him up, but instead he walked home from the beach (about a 40 minute walk). Evidently, Joran made a verbal assertion prior to changing his statement in which he surmised that perhaps Deepak came back after dropping him at home and raped and murdered Natalee. That Joran made this speculation is confirmed at least by David Kock (Satish attorney). However, it evidently was not signed by Joran. This is discussed further in an "Unsubstantiated Information" page. Then after Joran is shown the computer records and Deepak's statement he retracts that speculation as well as changing his own statement.
6. No further changes in their statements past the second revision have ever been made by Satish Kalpoe or Deepak Kalpoe.


Note that Joran has made 3 statements (versions):
Version 1. Dropped Natalee at Holiday Inn
Version 2. Natalee and Joran were left at Mariott beach. Joran left Natalee on beach, called Deepak for ride. Deepak picked him up and took him home. Text messages Deepak saying "call me."
Version 3. Same as version 2, except Joran says he called Deepak and told him he is walking home. Text messages Deepak later to say he has arrived home.


7. Subsequently, over several weeks, Joran Van der Sloot modifies his third statement (version 3) several times to add events which he says occurred after Joran Van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway were dropped off at the beach.
8. These revisions occur upon Joran Van der Sloot's reading of typed copies of his statement and then editing his previously signed statements. In the following fashion Joran Van der Sloot has edited his version 3 statement many times, ostensibly to correct and expand on certain facts:


a. As Joran Van der Sloot recalls minor details which he had forgotten to include earlier.
b. As Joran Van der Sloot's memory is refreshed when investigators compare known facts, such as geographical fixtures at the beach location, to his earlier recollection.
c. Maybe on advice of his attorney, Joran Van der Sloot recounts information he was reluctant to tell, like perhaps details of consensual sex or mutual drug use.

9. None of Joran Van der Sloot's statements admit to his causing any harm to Natalee Holloway or knowing about her ultimate fate or destination. He maintains his innocence, through all the statements, of any wrong doing concerning Natalee Holloway or any knowledge of any details about her disappearance, with one possible exception. This exception is discussed on the "Unsubstantiated Information" page where an unverified statement was reported to have been made by Joran implicating Deepak. Interestingly that unverified statement would be consistent with Joran's version 2, above.

10. Possible reasonable explanations for various versions:
Judges can make conjectures (often these arguments are advanced by the defense attorney) in order to decide if certain behavior, such as making a false statement or revising a statement, is reasonably not conclusive to be an indication of guilt. These are possible reasonable explanations a judge might consider:


a. Joran Van der Sloot might have been at first embarrassed to admit that he did as cavalier (uncouth or unmannerly) a thing as to leave an unescorted woman alone at the beach. This could account for the first version (version 1 above).
b. Satish Kalpoe and Deepak Kalpoe might have been merely backing up the statement of their friend (Joran Van der Sloot) thinking it was harmless to do so, and also wanting to save Joran Van der Sloot from the embarrassment of telling about leaving a young woman alone in the middle of the night. This might account for the Kalpoes first version.
c. Why Joran would tell the second version (version 2 above)? If the third version (version 3 above) is the truth, then version 2 would have been an unnecesary complication to the story (and while version 1 lie has a forgivable explanation, if version 2 is a lie, there is no reasonable explanation). But, what is significant is that he changed to version 3, only when shown the Kalpoe computer records and after being confronted in a face to face encounter with Deepak during interrogation. A perhaps more logical explanation might be that Joran's version 2 is the correct one (truthful) and that the computer records actually don't exonerate both of the Kalpoes, since Satish could have been the one on Deepak's computer while Deepak was picking up Joran and taking him home. If that were true then Deepak would be a more likely suspect, with Satish an accessory in covering up Deepak's involvement.
d. Possible reasonable explanations why Joran Van der Sloot did multiple edits of his statement:

c1 - Better recollection of the sequence of events at the beach area,
c2 - Revelation of acts between Joran Van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway, which Joran Van der Sloot, at first, wanted to remain discreet.
c3 - Correction of details of geographical structures present at the scene,
c4 - A simple jogged memory correction of who Joran Van der Sloot talked to when called concerning picking him up at the beach.
c5 - Correction of his recollection of the timing of certain contacts with the other two men after evidence was shown Joran Van der Sloot showing details of various phone or text message records.


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It should be noted that making revisions to any sworn statement, offered in response to police questioning, does not provide evidentiary indication that the previous version of the statement is now perjurious. Making revisions to statements to improve their accuracy is always suggested and encouraged by investigators (if anything additional is remembered, etc) and looked upon favorably by the court. Previous statements corrected in sworn subsequent versions are no longer admissible as evidence and cannot be used against a defendant in a court of law. The lastest sworn statement is considered the representation of record. A suspect (or defendant) is not required to make any statement and so, all such are voluntary.



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Concerning evidence that a crime was committed:
1. Evidence concerning the status of Natalee Holloway:


a. Natalee Holloway was last seen with the three men. (statements of bar patrons).
b. Natalee Holloway was left on the beach (statements of the three men).
c. See the "Unsubstantiated Information" page concerning Joran's (not verified) speculation about Deepak Kalpoe, which is interestingly, also consistent with Joran's version 2, above.
d. Natalee Holloway missed her flight home to Alabama.
e. There have been no communications from Natalee Holloway.
f. Extensive search efforts cannot find Natalee Holloway or her body on the land or in waters surrounding Aruba.
g. Natalee Holloway is still missing.

2. Forensic evidence of a crime against Natalee Holloway:


a. No forensic evidence was presented to the court, which would indicate any harm came to Natalee Holloway.
b. No forensic evidence even supports that Natalee Holloway was ever in the company any of the three men
c. Only statements of the three men and fellow bar attendees are evidence of her being in the company of the three men.

3. Speculative scenarios
Any scenarios such as: Natalee Holloway was a runaway, a kidnap victim or a murder victim are based only on speculation, or facts not in evidence, and cannot be considered in these proceedings.

8:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think everyone is too busy picking sides to know what they should really be doing, and that is praying that Natalee is ok and that she will be found Alive. I found this website today, and it really made me realize that this is what we should really be doing. Helping to Bring her home or find out what happened to her. Not putting the blame on someone until the hard facts and evidence is found.

http://ashvickers.tripod.com/index.html

8:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if anyone has the full transcript of this interview in Holland??? See below. Tante, Joran admits to being with her and to lying. THAT IS DOCUMENTED FACT. What say you???

Joran van der Sloot denies responsibility in A Current Affair Interview
September 25th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->
While talking with “A Current Affair” in Holland, Joran van der Sloot denied responsibility as to why Natalee Holloway is missing. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Joran Van der Sloot admits initially lying to investigators but states that Natalee was fine when he left her on the beach.

A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview.

Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway’s May 30 disappearance. He talked to a producer for “A Current Affair” in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday.

Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. The three young men were released on the condition they remain available to police for questioning.

In the interview with A Current Affair Joran Van der Sloot claims the relationship was consensual and he went so far to say that he even told Natalee Holloway that they had to leave; however, “she wanted to stay all night”.

He insists the night ended when he left her alone on the beach.

“She wanted to stay here the whole night. I told her no I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to the hotel, and she told me to put her down,” he said in the interview.

So now the story is that Joran Van der Sloot being the gentleman that he is was insisting that they both leave and it was Natalee Holloway, a girl who cannot defend her self’s fault. Joran Van der Sloot also went on to say,

“Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too,” van der Sloot said. “She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.”

9:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Earth to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can’t be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this “Current Affair” interview is going to say the following:

Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn. You had concocted the lie with the Kalpoe brothers and most likely Paulus Van der Sloot as well. WHY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW? Also, you and the Kalpoe brothers have now admitted to all having sex with a girl that was drunk and that you claim to have been consensual, WHERE IS SHE THEN? You left a drunk girl on the beach after all you had conveniently enough consensual sex with a girl that was so drunk she probably could not have consented to anything.

Joran, any other lies you would like to tell the world?

9:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(Vanishing of Natalee Holloway)... A Typical Night At Carlos 'N Charlie's?

I am not a prude.

Nor am I blue-nosed moralizer. Anyone who knows me well can vouch for that. Very few things bother me, or cause me to look down my nose, so to speak. I have rarely felt it was my place to judge anyone for anything.

That's why this entry is difficult to write, because I risk that sort of misunderstanding, the appearance of being a prig.

Yet something that has continually generated questions in my mind since Natalee Holloway disappeared on the island of Aruba nearly a month ago is the spin being put on the reputation world-wide for Aruba as a safe place. Much like the original spin on Joran Van Der Sloot, the 17-year-old dutch teen suspected of playing a primary role in Natalee's disappearance -- that he was such a "good kid," his reputation "as impeccable as Natalee's." Indeed, Aruba's crime rate is quite low. Violent crime is rare. To be frank, I'd love to visit the place, even now -- and my fair skin doesn't fare well under that tropical sun.

But did the folks making those trips from Natalee Holloway's hometown of Mountain Brook, Alabama each year with newly graduated 17 and 18-year-olds truly understand, really know, what goes on, say, on a given night in January at a place like Carlos 'N Charlie's?

Those who have seemed to take Americans to task for ever going at all, such as conservative Birmingham talk radio hosts Russ and Dee Fine, have made the point that there are great vacation spots right here in the continental U.S., not to mention Hawaii. One of the prettiest beaches I've ever seen is a few miles from my parents' home in Gulf Shores, Alabama.

And from the idea I now have of Carlos 'N Charlie's, it would be fine... for someone my age. I'm 37.

To be clear; the photographs in this entry have no direct association with the group from Mountain Brook at all, or this missing persons case. They were made in 2004 by an American tourist from the northeast, a twenty-something man and his best friend on vacation. Neither person is portrayed in any of the photographs in question -- to my knowledge all people shown in photographs below were either local Arubans or fellow tourists from both the U.S. and the Netherlands.

At Carlos 'N Charlie's, one night in January of 2004, for instance, free drinks were offered to the first woman willing to come to the stage and do a "booty dance." That's her above, on the left.

The next chance for free drinks that night was offered to the first couple to come to the stage at the bar and simulate 4 sexual positions. The couple seen in the series of photos at the bottom of the entry won that round -- the photographs show the approximate sequence in which the positions were demonstrated.


On leaving Carlos 'N Charlie's that night the Americans encountered the gentleman on the right taking an impromptu siesta. The large stain on his pants is apparently not spilled alcohol.


Then, another night entirely, the vacationing Americans met up with this unnamed young man. According to the original caption with the photo seen on the left, they met the young man around 4 a.m., in a bar. The man showed them around Oranjestad, then had to head home, as he stated he was only 15 and had school the next day.

We have recently found out that the night Beth Holloway Twitty and Jug Twitty, Natalee Holloway's mother and stepfather, arrived in Aruba, Joran Van Der Sloot was out gambling at a casino at 3 a.m. Never mind that a girl in whom he supposedly had an interest had disappeared, this fact alone made protestations by Joran's mother and father on American television about what a good upstanding kid Joran is sound hollow. The unknown young man in the photo on the left speaks of a certain truth not just about young Van Der Sloot's easy and permissive island life, but that of, apparently, some of his peers as well.

I went a few wild places when I was 17, and you probably did, too. By 19 I was hanging out like the kid in the photo on the left. Kids party, and people on vacation in the tropics, on an island as easy-going as Aruba are likeliest to party hard. The adults in these photos were likely already quite drunk by the time they decided to do the booty dance or wax kama sutra for the people. As for the drunk guy marinating in his own juices, for all we know that was his nightly spot, and he is there as I write.

Still, one senses something... out of control. On a razor's edge between total orgiastic chaos and simple drunken stumbling into heaps of humanity.

I'm no prude, yet if I'd happened onto these photos as my kid was preparing for a trip after graduation to Aruba, I would have, at the very least, said "don't go anywhere near Carlos 'N Charlie's."

I am not trying to second-guess or chide the people supervising those kids that week in Aruba -- because I believe that if there'd been a reason to write a blog entry like this before they went there, and they'd been able to read it, they would have been wary of a place where simulated sex gets you free drinks, or young men soaked in their own pee are passed out on the sidewalk outside.

The other thing to think about is that Joran Van Der Sloot was living in this day after day, night after night. Among the first photos found of Joran online by the tabloid news show A Current Affair were photos at Carlos 'N Charlie's website. The Van Der Sloots have claimed he had rules, that he would sneak out, I guess unbeknownst to them, after 11 anyway. Yet Jug Twitty stood there and watched Joran's father dial the boy's cellphone in the early a.m. that first night in Aruba, reaching Joran at a nearby casino. There have been more than a few reports of his father going to the casinos with Joran.

Now his father is also under arrest, and the number of suspects behind bars in Aruba is five. For them, the nightly party, the booze, the gambling, are suddenly, probably seemingly distant, memories.

The photos are not posted here to judge, but for those inclined, to warn. Forewarned is forearmed, and most places won't lay sights like these out there in the brochures or on their own websites. Know the flipside of paradise, how sometimes life deep in the night teeters wildly on the edge of control. If you're old enough to handle it -- and age is a factor, I believe -- go right ahead and party down.

I didn't post the pics of the cabbie who pulled out his water bong, or the forty-something woman, a dutch national, who slept with one of the men his second or third night there. If the booty dance photograph doesn't give you a dose of the reality of the unending party on Aruba, the sex-positions-for drinks pics will. Hell, for some people these photographs will be appealing, or at the least amusing -- my initial reaction to the booty dance pic was to laugh out loud.

But if there is a message here, it is what I've been saying all along; Joran Van Der Sloot, Steve Croes, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe lived in this paradise twenty-four/seven. Joran, I think, was thriving in it. To him a dark night on the beach alone with Natalee Holloway meant one single expectation, born out of nights watching free drink bare-assed dancing, free-drink faked sex. Joran got what he wanted -- the apple of mama's eye, dad's buddy. Until, I think, he was alone on that beach with Natalee.

Now the question is what was covered up. Was she dead when she slipped into the water? How badly was Paul Van Der Sloot sweating that night as he instructed Joran to hold his tongue? With Paul's arrest, are we seeing the end-game of the Aruban authorities, the final rounding up of the conspirators?

Perhaps Natalee's fate wasn't even water, at all. Perhaps it was earth, a stone bed in one of Aruba's caves. Or worse, fire.

Either way, it is hard to not see photos like these, snapped randomly and in good humor by an American tourist old enough to know how to make it back to his plane alive, and not feel like things were slipping toward "something bad" happening long before Natalee and Joran were alone on that beach. That the wild Aruban night, the mad dance of cultures drunk and colliding in the heat was not primed for "something bad" to come down. Joran's nightly party finally turned over and the underside of paradise was revealed.

9:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for a clear and concise report. I for one appreciate the time you have taken to give it to us straight. That is ,after all, what this blog should about.

9:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran van der Sloot denies responsibility in A Current Affair Interview
September 25th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->
While talking with “A Current Affair” in Holland, Joran van der Sloot denied responsibility as to why Natalee Holloway is missing. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Joran Van der Sloot admits initially lying to investigators but states that Natalee was fine when he left her on the beach.

A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview.

Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway’s May 30 disappearance. He talked to a producer for “A Current Affair” in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday.

Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. The three young men were released on the condition they remain available to police for questioning.

In the interview with A Current Affair Joran Van der Sloot claims the relationship was consensual and he went so far to say that he even told Natalee Holloway that they had to leave; however, “she wanted to stay all night”.

He insists the night ended when he left her alone on the beach.

“She wanted to stay here the whole night. I told her no I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to the hotel, and she told me to put her down,” he said in the interview.

So now the story is that Joran Van der Sloot being the gentleman that he is was insisting that they both leave and it was Natalee Holloway, a girl who cannot defend her self’s fault. Joran Van der Sloot also went on to say,

“Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too,” van der Sloot said. “She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.”

Earth to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can’t be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this “Current Affair” interview is going to say the following:

Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn. You had concocted the lie with the Kalpoe brothers and most likely Paulus Van der Sloot as well. WHY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW? Also, you and the Kalpoe brothers have now admitted to all having sex with a girl that was drunk and that you claim to have been consensual, WHERE IS SHE THEN? You left a drunk girl on the beach after all you had conveniently enough consensual sex with a girl that was so drunk she probably could not have consented to anything.

Joran, any other lies you would like to tell the world?

9:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think everyone is too busy picking sides to know what they should really be doing, and that is praying that Natalee is ok and that she will be found Alive. I found this website today, and it really made me realize that this is what we should really be doing. Helping to Bring her home or find out what happened to her. Not putting the blame on someone until the hard facts and evidence is found.

http://ashvickers.tripod.com/index.html



I went there, and I agree people are too caught up with picking sides. The song is what really got me though.

Lyssa

9:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STupid yanks - a CURRENT AFFAIR is a gossip show must like all your media trash shows that hold zero I repeat zero facts and do not substantiate anything they report with evidence.

YOU WANT THE TRUTH ....YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!

GO RIGHT TO THE SOURCE:


CONTACT THE FBI - Room 1400
2121 8th. Avenue N.
Birmingham, Alabama 35203-2396
birmingham.fbi.gov
(205) 326-6166

contact the Alabama Attorney General Troy King
@ 334-242-7300


Otherwise stop relying on trash bullshit yank media for your supposed evidence. Haaaaaaaaa

Discussion about what possible case against Joran?

NO CASE WILL EVER BE. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, NO CONFESSIONS, NO STATEMENTS> NO BODY ....ONLY LIES AND SCANDALS BY THE TWITTY CLAN.

FACTS: THomas and Hunter Twitty - Natalee's step cousins were wiht her in Aruba and last seen with her. Ask the FBI when you call them @

CONTACT THE FBI - Room 1400
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contact the Alabama Attorney General Troy King
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10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Had to see the website too, it gave me chills. Hope that everyone who comes to post here will visit that site. It will definetly melt a cold heart.

10:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think everyone is too busy picking sides to know what they should really be doing, and that is praying that Natalee is ok and that she will be found Alive. I found this website today, and it really made me realize that this is what we should really be doing. Helping to Bring her home or find out what happened to her. Not putting the blame on someone until the hard facts and evidence is found.

http://ashvickers.tripod.com/index.html


Please everyone go to that site it really makes you think about what you should be, and not what we are doing on here, which seems to be arguing.

10:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Had to see the website too, it gave me chills. Hope that everyone who comes to post here will visit that site. It will definetly melt a cold heart.

10:10 PM


It really does give you chills. I hope everyone will go to it too.

10:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The person who made the website just added a new page titled More Natalee Pictures, and if you go to this site it really does make you open your eyes, and see what we should all be hoping for and doing.

Please please go to the website
http://ashvickers.tripod.com/index.html

11:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BEWARE: It's a money scam........

11:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

vigilante justice never solved any crimes either. a threat against the major suspect. something is amiss here. when the main suspect in the jfk killing was gunned down we all lost at the oppotunity to seek the truth. the same could happen here if all the facts are not fully developed.

and then we have jvds telling some more lies about what happened. or maybe they are not lies this time? maybe jvds got caught up in something much larger, something beyond his control. there is documented evidence that aruba is an island of corrupt drug activity, sexual innuendo and so on, maybe our main suspect is a pawn in an abduction or more sinister scheme. who knows? what is the truth? there are lots of questions about jvds. how could he have a line of credit at a casino? how does he explain past behavior of seducing women at carlos n charlies? how does he explain his friends videos and association with porn? less than a stellar character. then there is his mama who is less than forthright in the matter, much less papa. then there are the kalpos who are sinister and have admitted terrible acts against the victim. there is something rotten on the island of aruba. let the truth come out. the truth will set those who are innocent free and convict those who are guilty. dont stand in the way of the truth tante bet. dont spew half truths tante bet. dont spew the b.s. about no body no case - thats the line from papa. no, you dont need a body to have a crime. no body may mean coverup of a crime. think about it tante bet. i am not sure of your peanut sized pinhead can comprehend a basic fact or whether you merely repeat what someone else like papa jdvs has said. in fact we have seen little orginal thought from you. imagine that. it must be tough to be tante bet to defend something that cannot be defended. the center cannot hold. the island of aruba is crumbling from corruption and lack of tourism dollars. the island of aruba is built on withering sand. the sand that is collapsing under your weak defenses and unfounded accusations. find the truth and you will find the rock. heck even the bridges are collapsing in aruba. a tell tale sign that precurses another fall on the island. time is ticking. watch for breaking news on october 17. you will see. the prosecution will take hold and begin to close in on all of the corruption and crime.

11:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lie . . . A lie . . . what do you think tante bet? It is on "AP" associated press, a well respected source!!!!!

Joran Van Der Sloot Admits He Lied - Denies Reponsibility In Holloway Disappearance
NEW YORK (AP) - A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview. Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway's May 30 disappearance.

He talked to a producer for "A Current Affair" in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday.

Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

11:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"YOU WANT THE TRUTH ....YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!"

Geez, if you are going to scream at us and such and tell us how stupid we are, don't use our own movies and actors to do it. You need new material.

11:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow . . . does anyone have a copy of the interview or the transcript??

Joran Van Der Sloot Admits He Lied - Denies Reponsibility In Holloway Disappearance
NEW YORK (AP) - A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview. Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway's May 30 disappearance.

He talked to a producer for "A Current Affair" in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday.

Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

While talking with “A Current Affair” in Holland, Joran van der Sloot denied responsibility as to why Natalee Holloway is missing. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Joran Van der Sloot admits initially lying to investigators but states that Natalee was fine when he left her on the beach.

A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview. Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway’s May 30 disappearance. He talked to a producer for “A Current Affair” in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. The three young men were released on the condition they remain available to police for questioning.

In the interview with A Current Affair Joran Van der Sloot claims the relationship was consensual and he went so far to say that he even told Natalee Holloway that they had to leave; however, “she wanted to stay all night”.

He insists the night ended when he left her alone on the beach. “She wanted to stay here the whole night. I told her no I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to the hotel, and she told me to put her down,” he said in the interview.

So now the story is that Joran Van der Sloot being the gentleman that he is was insisting that they both leave and it was Natalee Holloway, a girl who cannot defend her self’s fault. Joran Van der Sloot also went on to say,

“Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too,” van der Sloot said. “She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.”

Earth to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can’t be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this “Current Affair” interview is going to say the following: Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn. You had concocted the lie with the Kalpoe brothers and most likely Paulus Van der Sloot as well. WHY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW? Also, you and the Kalpoe brothers have now admitted to all having sex with a girl that was drunk and that you claim to have been consensual, WHERE IS SHE THEN? You left a drunk girl on the beach after all you had conveniently enough consensual sex with a girl that was so drunk she probably could not have consented to anything. Joran, any other lies you would like to tell the world?


Suspect in Holloway Disappearance Denies Responsibility

The Associated Press

Published: Sep 25, 2005

NEW YORK (AP) - A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview.

Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway's May 30 disappearance. He talked to a producer for "A Current Affair" in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday.

Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

The three young men were released on the condition they remain available to police for questioning. But earlier this month, an appeals court overturned that, saying there was a "lack of sufficient grounds and serious suspicions" to keep the restrictions.

Van der Sloot and the brothers initially told police they dropped Holloway off alone at her hotel but later admitted van der Sloot was dropped off with the teen.

"We agreed to lie," van der Sloot said, according to a transcript of the show.

He insists the night ended when he left her alone on the beach.

"She wanted to stay here the whole night. I told her no I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to the hotel, and she told me to put her down," he said in the interview.

Extensive searches have failed to find any trace of Holloway, who vanished on the final night of a high school graduation trip to the Dutch Caribbean island.

Van der Sloot said he had been drinking with Holloway when they left with the Kalpoe brothers.

"Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too," van der Sloot said. "She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual."

AP-ES-09-25-05 2127EDT

12:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You losers need new material. Quoting media and Beth - the most unreliable sources. A Current Affair, Geraldo, Fox news, Dr. Phil. GET A LIFE !!

GO STRAIGHT TO THE SOURCE YANKS!


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12:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tante bet, you are so far behind the news! joran admits he lied to the press. associated press is legitimate press. it is not your dr. phil, fox or enquirer. YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THE TRUTH tante bet!!!! hehehehehehe TANTE BET's world is crumbling . . . this case gets a major boost around oct 17. heheheheh

12:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Beth Twitty was getting the message via media coverage. LQQKS 2 me like Urine is doing the same. Rem. people that EVEN convicted murderer, Scott Peterson sat and cried and cried for his missing wife, Lacy, and then LQQK wham what happened ? The court and jury saw right throught his guilty but !SORRY Joran can run, but he will never be able to hide from the truth. I do not mean the b.s. "Aruba Truth" either, which is 99% propoganda and LIES.
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But of course from everything that I have read and seen "lieing" or telling "untruths" is a definite genetic, inherited trait of the Dutch and all generations of offspring. Obviously the lies are proper and socially and legally acceptable by all !
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Researching and realizing the Dutch citizens current morals, I and many AMERICAN citizens of high integrity find them absolutely dispicable and disgusting. NO wonder you have UNTREATED psychopathic deviants in your midst! Having no guilt for your transgressions is not acceptable in society. Yes the Americans have that also, but we do lock them away from the public and get them treatment, so that our other citizens will be safe from them. I see Joran, Deepok, Satish, and Pappa Sloot walk freely as if birds in flight.
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PEOPLE wake up and the smell the coffee. Your gov't. sanctions legal drug usage, euthanasia, prostitution. These are not morals that a progressive socity of people follow. ALL are against the law of our creator, GOD. Yes, the dirty 3 letter word u Dutch do not want to hear, nor believe in. We are NOT evolved from monkeys, we are creations from a higher poer. When man makes laws concerning legal drugs, (which DO damage the brain), Prostitution ~ selling your body for $$$ , and when a Dr. can say ok if u want to die, I will help u, that is not acceptable. Jack Kavorkian is in prison for asisted suicides. U people think it is ok ? When u make your own rules, it MAKES the society that u inhabit decay, MORALLY !
______________________________________________________________________It is NOT accep0table to rape, murder, or have sex with a female who is in and out of consciousness. SHe must be awake to give her consent. Drugs and alcohol do tend to lower ones inhibitions.Hello people ????????????EARTH to Aruba what part of that did Joran NOT admit ??????
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All countries have different and varying culture, I realize and acknowledge, but none the less all I can say that I am more glad than I have been in my life to be born an American.Call me a Yank, because I LOVE the U S A !!!!!!

12:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the fact and the truth that tante bet cannot believe and accept. Maybe the yanks got it right about the lies that jdvs tells!!!!

Joran Van Der Sloot Admits He Lied - Denies Reponsibility In Holloway Disappearance
NEW YORK (AP) - A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview. Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway's May 30 disappearance.

He talked to a producer for "A Current Affair" in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday.

Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

While talking with “A Current Affair” in Holland, Joran van der Sloot denied responsibility as to why Natalee Holloway is missing. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Joran Van der Sloot admits initially lying to investigators but states that Natalee was fine when he left her on the beach.

A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview. Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway’s May 30 disappearance. He talked to a producer for “A Current Affair” in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. The three young men were released on the condition they remain available to police for questioning.

In the interview with A Current Affair Joran Van der Sloot claims the relationship was consensual and he went so far to say that he even told Natalee Holloway that they had to leave; however, “she wanted to stay all night”.

He insists the night ended when he left her alone on the beach. “She wanted to stay here the whole night. I told her no I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to the hotel, and she told me to put her down,” he said in the interview.

So now the story is that Joran Van der Sloot being the gentleman that he is was insisting that they both leave and it was Natalee Holloway, a girl who cannot defend her self’s fault. Joran Van der Sloot also went on to say,

“Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too,” van der Sloot said. “She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.”

Earth to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can’t be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this “Current Affair” interview is going to say the following: Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn. You had concocted the lie with the Kalpoe brothers and most likely Paulus Van der Sloot as well. WHY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW? Also, you and the Kalpoe brothers have now admitted to all having sex with a girl that was drunk and that you claim to have been consensual, WHERE IS SHE THEN? You left a drunk girl on the beach after all you had conveniently enough consensual sex with a girl that was so drunk she probably could not have consented to anything. Joran, any other lies you would like to tell the world?


Suspect in Holloway Disappearance Denies Responsibility

The Associated Press

Published: Sep 25, 2005

NEW YORK (AP) - A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview.

Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway's May 30 disappearance. He talked to a producer for "A Current Affair" in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday.

Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

The three young men were released on the condition they remain available to police for questioning. But earlier this month, an appeals court overturned that, saying there was a "lack of sufficient grounds and serious suspicions" to keep the restrictions.

Van der Sloot and the brothers initially told police they dropped Holloway off alone at her hotel but later admitted van der Sloot was dropped off with the teen.

"We agreed to lie," van der Sloot said, according to a transcript of the show.

He insists the night ended when he left her alone on the beach.

"She wanted to stay here the whole night. I told her no I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to the hotel, and she told me to put her down," he said in the interview.

Extensive searches have failed to find any trace of Holloway, who vanished on the final night of a high school graduation trip to the Dutch Caribbean island.

Van der Sloot said he had been drinking with Holloway when they left with the Kalpoe brothers.

"Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too," van der Sloot said. "She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual."

AP-ES-09-25-05 2127EDT

12:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

great post 12:20!!!! well done. hats off to you. great post!!!

12:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yanks Unite against TANTE BET. ARUBANS ARE CORRUPT. YOU CANT ACCEPT THE TRUTH, MUCH LESS TELL THE TRUTH!!!!! KALPOES and JVDS and KAPLOES mama ALL admit LIES. LIES. LIES... GUILTY@!!!


Yanks Unite against TANTE BET. ARUBANS ARE CORRUPT. YOU CANT ACCEPT THE TRUTH, MUCH LESS TELL THE TRUTH!!!!! KALPOES and JVDS and KAPLOES mama ALL admit LIES. LIES. LIES... GUILTY@!!!

Yanks Unite against TANTE BET. ARUBANS ARE CORRUPT. YOU CANT ACCEPT THE TRUTH, MUCH LESS TELL THE TRUTH!!!!! KALPOES and JVDS and KAPLOES mama ALL admit LIES. LIES. LIES... GUILTY@!!!

12:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran's hour is drawing near.

12:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran will soon be forced to answer for his transgressions.

12:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"YOU WANT THE TRUTH ....YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!"

Geez, if you are going to scream at us and such and tell us how stupid we are, don't use our own movies and actors to do it. You need new material.

Earth to tante bet and to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can’t be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this “Current Affair” interview is going to say the following: Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn. You had concocted the lie with the Kalpoe brothers and most likely Paulus Van der Sloot as well. WHY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW? Also, you and the Kalpoe brothers have now admitted to all having sex with a girl that was drunk and that you claim to have been consensual, WHERE IS SHE THEN? You left a drunk girl on the beach after all you had conveniently enough consensual sex with a girl that was so drunk she probably could not have consented to anything. Joran, any other lies you would like to tell the world?

12:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Beth Twitty was getting the message via media coverage. LQQKS 2 me like Urine is doing the same. Rem. people that EVEN convicted murderer, Scott Peterson sat and cried and cried for his missing wife, Lacy, and then LQQK wham what happened ? The court and jury saw right throught his guilty but !SORRY Joran can run, but he will never be able to hide from the truth. I do not mean the b.s. "Aruba Truth" either, which is 99% propoganda and LIES.
______________________________________________________________________
But of course from everything that I have read and seen "lieing" or telling "untruths" is a definite genetic, inherited trait of the Dutch and all generations of offspring. Obviously the lies are proper and socially and legally acceptable by all !
______________________________________________________________________
Researching and realizing the Dutch citizens current morals, I and many AMERICAN citizens of high integrity find them absolutely dispicable and disgusting. NO wonder you have UNTREATED psychopathic deviants in your midst! Having no guilt for your transgressions is not acceptable in society. Yes the Americans have that also, but we do lock them away from the public and get them treatment, so that our other citizens will be safe from them. I see Joran, Deepok, Satish, and Pappa Sloot walk freely as if birds in flight.
______________________________________________________________________
PEOPLE wake up and the smell the coffee. Your gov't. sanctions legal drug usage, euthanasia, prostitution. These are not morals that a progressive socity of people follow. ALL are against the law of our creator, GOD. Yes, the dirty 3 letter word u Dutch do not want to hear, nor believe in. We are NOT evolved from monkeys, we are creations from a higher poer. When man makes laws concerning legal drugs, (which DO damage the brain), Prostitution ~ selling your body for $$$ , and when a Dr. can say ok if u want to die, I will help u, that is not acceptable. Jack Kavorkian is in prison for asisted suicides. U people think it is ok ? When u make your own rules, it MAKES the society that u inhabit decay, MORALLY !
______________________________________________________________________It is NOT accep0table to rape, murder, or have sex with a female who is in and out of consciousness. SHe must be awake to give her consent. Drugs and alcohol do tend to lower ones inhibitions.Hello people ????????????EARTH to Aruba what part of that did Joran NOT admit ??????
______________________________________________________________________
All countries have different and varying culture, I realize and acknowledge, but none the less all I can say that I am more glad than I have been in my life to be born an American.Call me a Yank, because I LOVE the U S A !!!!!!

12:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YANKS UNITE AGAINST ARUBA AND TANTE BET. BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE DUTCH CRIMINALS. "YOU WANT THE TRUTH ....YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!"

Geez, if you are going to scream at us and such and tell us how stupid we are, don't use our own movies and actors to do it. You need new material.

Earth to tante bet and to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can’t be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this “Current Affair” interview is going to say the following: Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn. You had concocted the lie with the Kalpoe brothers and most likely Paulus Van der Sloot as well. WHY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW? Also, you and the Kalpoe brothers have now admitted to all having sex with a girl that was drunk and that you claim to have been consensual, WHERE IS SHE THEN? You left a drunk girl on the beach after all you had conveniently enough consensual sex with a girl that was so drunk she probably could not have consented to anything. Joran, any other lies you would like to tell the world?

12:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12 22 did u mean me? there were 2 of us. please identify if it was 1 or 2. Joran tell the truth and it shall set u free, but u r going to hell anyway ~ u raped 2 many chicks !!!!! The hour is close !

12:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante Bet the world renowned aunt to all who will have her for a poke or 2, is a DUTCH ass.

12:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree................

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UNITED STATES UNITE AND BOYCOTT ARUBA ~

We have enough psychopath's in the USA ~ but ours ARE locked away in mental hospitals. Aruba's are allowed to roam free as the birds are.......It makes NO sense !

12:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is nearing his end, and I do NOT mean from the Boogeeman either. USA has maffia too. Our BAD maffia goes to Aruba to live freely among their OWN kind !

12:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UNITED STATES UNITE AND BOYCOTT ARUBA ~

We have enough psychopath's in the USA ~ but ours ARE locked away in mental hospitals. Aruba's are allowed to roam free as the birds are.......It makes NO sense !

12:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran lied once whoop de fucken doo.

Beth has told 2200 lies.
Thomas and Hunter Twitty lied about even knowing Natalee. They were her step cousins, in her classes at school and spent weekends together with her. They were the last ones seen with her ...after Joran and they fucked off out of Aruba and didn't stay when Natalee missed her flight. Beth and all the Twitty's lied about them BEING WITH NATALEE IN ARUBA. DAVE only found out about this NOW from the prosecution .....so who is telling lies. Joran who admitted he lied ONCE or Beth who is a compulsive liar, who the FBI doesn't speak to anymore because she is so unreliable and fabricates everythign she says.

Yanks say what you want it makes no difference because JORAN IS FREE AND INNOCENT. DEEPAK AND SATISH ARE FREE AND INNOCENT. Beth has men in black following her and investigating her, Thomas and Hunter have the blood of their step cousin Natalee on their hands and the Mountain Brook kids are starting to speak to the FBI!!

WATCH OUT OCT 17 when the truth come out about the kissing cousins THOMAS AND HUNTER AND NATALEE!!!!!

1:28 AM  
Anonymous PatCar said...

Nauseating Brat der Sloot.

1:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Insest whether step cousins or not is ONLY in Aruba. U Dutch have ALL the screwed rules and laws !How dare u insinuate such trash about Nat ! Does your conscience feel better when u slam Beth and USA ? U r useless U R Dutch ! U*************** S U C K !!!

1:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALL Dutch get off this blog and go shine your wooden shoes. That would be more feasible for u. Shine e m good so u have less time 2 spread lies about our American that your country harmed !!

BOYCOTT ARUBA
ARUBA SUCKS
STICK DICK OF PAPPA SLOOT IN ASS OF JORAN

1:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thomas Twitty - Natalee's step cousin who was on the trip with her in Aruba - even played Poker with Joran at the casino. Beth didn't tell you yanks that. Beth didn't even tell Dave her step cousins were with her in Aruba, that her step twin cousins were with her at Carlos & Charlies and that her step cousin twins never reported her missing and fled Aruba the scene of their crime when Natalee was not in the lobby to catch her flight. DAVE ONLY FOUND THIS OUT NOW ..over 120 days later from the PROSECUTION. Now who has been lying all this time?
STupid yanks.....your idol Dr. Phils' mantra is...those who have nothing to hide ...hide nothing.
WEll well well Beth the lying Bitch has lots to hide! And it's all unraveling around her lying ass as we speak!! JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED BETH THE BITCH!!

It was with Thomas's help (how convenient) that Beth was able to identify Joran. Yet when Beth arrived at VDS house she pointed at Paulus and screamed "that's the man that took my daughter" and Jug said "no that's an older man we are looking for a 17 year old"! haaaaaa

Strange thing though... Thomas was IN ARUBA when Natalee disappeared and the only person who could identify Joran because he knew him from the casino and watched Natalee go with him in the car, and Thomas and Hunter were hiding in the fishermans' hut watching Joran and Natalee on the beach til Joran left her there......then they gang banged their cousin and were the last seen with her. THey called Uncle jug after something "bad" happened and he got his private plane to get his rapist nephews off the island. Jug's allegiance is to his brother's kids not his step daughter Natalee.

The Twitty twin cousins never went back to Aruba once to "wink wink" help look for Natalee. They are the only members of the family who didn't go back to Aruba. Interestingly enough it was their mama MARCIA who was the spokesperson for the Holloway-Twitty family at the beginning. How convenient. Remember that folks? And the twins daddy Thomas works at AM SOUTH BANK - the same bank where the Twitty's get donations in Natalee's name ...and are pillaging millions from Americans.

Do you stupid yanks need the world to paint a better picture for you?
Beth is munchausen by proxy ....profiting the attention from Natalee's disappearance.


The interrogators in Holland should show Joran the Twitty twins pictures and see what he remembers of those yanks. You yanks were always right that Joran is the key to solving the case......with ANSWERS ABOUT THE TWITTYS - the real perpetrators!!!!!!!!

Give Joran their pictures, let him solve the case and them give Joran the million dollars reward money fuckers!!!!

3:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you keep hammering away on these step cousins - they aren't even real family! people divorce and remarry - that doesn't mean they get close to all the extended family - just because natalie's mother married into the twitty family does not mean natalee was close to these boys or that they hung out like friends - lots of real cousins aren't particularly good friends - blaming them for not taking a huge interest in her whereabouts or staying on the island is perverse speculation - you don't know what they did or didn't do other than get on the plane as they were supposed to do -just like all the other kids did - like most kids they probably figured they'd be in big trouble if they stayed and it was best to go home and let the adults sort everything out - it's beyond evil to call them murderers and accuse them of rape based on no credible testimony that they were with her in the early hours of the morning

6:20 AM  
Blogger D said...

Sick people out there!!! Leave the kid alone!!! There is something very wrong with us if we have to focus one one case of a teen that disapeared!!! It happens every day in the US. Do we ban Miami or New York when it happens here? Do we promise to seek revenge? NO!!!! SO leave this poor family alone. They have enough to deal with and dont need sickos like that in their life. Oh boohoo... Natalee may have not beeen so innocent after all. Oh boohoo, Natalee liked to party just like any other teeanger! And because that came to light, we want to hold the people responsible who last partied with her??? Whats wrong with you people!!!! Focus your anger toward something positive!!! Toward searching for!!! And not just lashig out on a kid, who has a bright future ahead of him and his family!!! People really have to have a reality check and see whats important in life. There are so many people out ther hating! - Focusing their life to hate, and I guess they chose Joran now, because they could!! Go on with your miserable life and leave him alone!

8:28 AM  
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8:31 AM  
Blogger D said...

And you know what else is really amusing, everybody here who is all tough and talking a lot of smack is "ANONYMOUS"... what are you scared of? Show who you are?? Its really stupid!!! And the the worst part about all this... you keep seeing things like, I LOVE THE USA... great!!! Wonderful!!! Be a good citizen, love your counrty, but dont HIDE behind the good red, white and blue and think that it would justify your smart ass remarks!!! All you people really should focus on hating maybe Bin Laden... now that would be something honorable and then please scream it from the roof tops when you say how much you love the USA!!! But when you talk smack, better shut the fuck up and dont HIDE behind the flag of this great country!

8:35 AM  
Blogger D said...

:) Its sooo irritating to me that people can be that bored that their life is consumed with all the wrong things! +

8:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.geocities.com/bethhtgroup/

This site is about Beth, Beth and oh..... Beth....

9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who wants to see this s..t?

9:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think everyone is too busy picking sides to know what they should really be doing, and that is praying that Natalee is ok and that she will be found Alive. I found this website today, and it really made me realize that this is what we should really be doing. Helping to Bring her home or find out what happened to her. Not putting the blame on someone until the hard facts and evidence is found.

http://ashvickers.tripod.com/index.html



I went there, and I agree people are too caught up with picking sides. The song is what really got me though.

Lyssa

9:38 PM

These people are right see there all of us go arguing with each other about who is guilty or innocent when we should all just be hoping that Natalee is ok, and the Aruban Autorities find out who really did it. Stop arguing and putting the blame on pepole until you get hard facts!

9:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most people who think the USA is so great have never traveled outside our borders. There are plenty of great places throughout the world but most americans would never know it.
Do you really believe that all the US has to worry about in life is Bin Laden? Those are some rose colored glasses you must be wearing. Many other country's in the world do not like us because we are a greedy-greedy arrogant lot and we cause damage and destruction to others in the name of god. We in this country need to clean up our own backyards before we try to take over the Aruban courts or anywhere else for that matter.

9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Toyota here, hi. I'm back and I just wanted to say that it's a pity that my fellow Americans and their European counterparts can't stop but resorting to calling each other names.

Think about Natalie and DISCUSS and debate the FACTS.

Natalie, my prayers are with you.

10:14 AM  
Anonymous Heidi Lynn said...

God can judge him, yes, be i know he is guilty. I know most of us know he's guilty.

10:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think about Natalie and DISCUSS and debate the FACTS.

Natalie, my prayers are with you.

10:14 AM

Mr. Toyota Corolla thanks for getting off your high horse, seriously. What you stated above is the real issue, FACTS. What are the facts? You have what the Holloways say is facts and what the VDS/ Kalpoes version of the facts. However, we need the Aruban LE collection of facts to actually make any kind of intelligent comments on. This arguing and name calling stems from the lack of facts. I apologize for the Toyota, penny loafing wearing etc comments from the other day. I see that we can both be civil about our postings. I dont like hollier-than-thou attitudes and that's why I jumped your case. Again, I apologize. I like what you post now.

10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do anyone of you actually think that you have all the answers and can slove this mystery here? I think not, so how some here know without a doubt that the accused are guilty. What else do you know to be a hard cold fact?
How many of my fellow Americans watch a tv show entitled Cold Case Files? It features crimes that were committed decades ago, that have only been sloved in the last couple of years. For instance, a man was accused of killing his mother. There was a body, but not real evidence that he was the killer. He lived his life under an umbrella of suspicion for 40 years. Everyone in his home towned treated him like he guilty. Guess what? Forty years after the fact, the FBI using DNA evidence finds that the man is not guilty after all. Can you imagine how the people that were so sure that this man had murdered his mother and shunned him for 40 years must have felt the day they found out he was innocent? They were all guilty of focusing on just the son, helping to ruin his life, while the real killer ran around free as a bird.
One other case that I remember was about an eighty year old,found in Florida and committed suicide after being approached by the FBI. A body of young woman was found in barrell of some type of chemical. The barrell was found in a garage of home the eighty year old had owned back in the late 50's-60's. The new owner of the home, along with a friend, decided one day to open the barrell and there was the body. The now eighty year old man had, had an affair with the woman and she got preganent, so he killed her stuffed her the barrell and went on with his life for 45 years and then the truth came out.
Things done in secret are usually revealed at some point in time.
So all of you that so sure that Joran and Kalpoes are guilty need to step back and take a look at what you are possibly guilty of. The answers will come, but in due time.

11:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Mr. Toyota here, hi. I'm back and I just wanted to say that it's a pity that my fellow Americans and their European counterparts can't stop but resorting to calling each other names.

I sure is a pity, and it makes me just want to cry. Why can't we all just fuck you faggott. hehe, fuck you and the hawse you rode in on, heh heh, suck my dick hombre, heh heh.

11:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Joran......are you looking for another victim? I think you and your Kalpoe-kohorts are the scum of the earth, and I hope all young women out there have enough sense to stay away from you and Aruba.

12:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just like any other kid, they (the 3 musketeers) are either going to start blabbing to their friends or their guilty conscience is going to get the better of them. I'll vote for the blabbing. They can't keep something so big to themselves. It may take awhile, but mark my words...they'll blow it wide open themselves.

12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have no fear, JVS...God WILL judge you...and harshly.

12:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think everyone is too busy picking sides to know what they should really be doing, and that is praying that Natalee is ok and that she will be found Alive. I found this website today, and it really made me realize that this is what we should really be doing. Helping to Bring her home or find out what happened to her. Not putting the blame on someone until the hard facts and evidence is found.

http://ashvickers.tripod.com/index.html

Anonymous said...
Mr. Toyota here, hi. I'm back and I just wanted to say that it's a pity that my fellow Americans and their European counterparts can't stop but resorting to calling each other names.

Think about Natalie and DISCUSS and debate the FACTS.

Natalie, my prayers are with you.



These two people are the only ones on here that are even making any sense!

12:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

suck my dick

12:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is a 16 year old giant dick. Definitely he can rape and murder a woman much weaker than him, and brag and lie about it. Joran said in his "Current Affair" that he picked up Natalee in his arms and wanted to carry her back to the hotel. That is his confession because Natalee is already dead. Joran was carrying Natalee's corpse for disposal. Agree? This is a 16 years old criminal's mindset now. He says it himself and now let the world knows about it.

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in world didn't someone in or around that beach area, see a tall boy carrying a corpse. Odd don't you think? I find it hard to believe , Aruba being a party island, that everyone was sound asleep in the wee hours of the morning. Do you think he walked for 40 minutes carrying 110 lbs. of dead weight. You try picking up a 110 lbs. and see how far you can go, then get on a school and go to school and ace a final exam.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope Joran BRUNS IN HELL.....let him deny all he wants to. If he is not guilty then why does he keep changing his story?

1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought this thread was about Joran being targetted for termination. How true is that crap? At least he has his "people" looking out for him. What about the Kalpoes? Anybody from Colombia or Venezuela would probably do them for $50 and a cold beer. I bet they are walking around with their asshole tighter than a crab's ass. SMD, how you doing dude?

1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran's Msn name: the "plaid shirt killer"....somebody buy that boy another shirt......

1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you think he walked for 40 minutes carrying 110 lbs. of dead weight. You try picking up a 110 lbs. and see how far you can go, then get on a school and go to school and ace a final exam.


Easy, the exam was in "Body Dispossal 101"

1:18 PM  
Anonymous BJ said...

does anyone have the address/link to his msn profile?

1:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why in world didn't someone in or around that beach area, see a tall boy carrying a corpse. Odd don't you think? I find it hard to believe , Aruba being a party island, that everyone was sound asleep in the wee hours of the morning. Do you think he walked for 40 minutes carrying 110 lbs. of dead weight. You try picking up a 110 lbs. and see how far you can go, then get on a school and go to school and ace a final exam.

1:07 PM

You too motherfucker, suck my dick

2:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If your dick was worth sucking you wouldn't have to beg!!!! And if you weren't self conscience about it's size you wouldn't continue to talk about it.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any truth to the "death threats"? Just national enquierer bs? Deepak, you read these blogs....what do you think?
Poor f*cker...you werent going anywheres before, now you really are on the highway to Loserville. Your buddy Joran gonna be alright in his motherland, looks like you got left holding the bad, dude.

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If your dick was worth sucking you wouldn't have to beg!!!! And if you weren't self conscience about it's size you wouldn't continue to talk about it.

2:41 PM

there is River_52, I see you still love me and want to suck my big dick. I goona make you the best pancakes I ever made. ()(0)

3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SMD, what's kickin' chickin'? Monday dude, kind of hard to get in the mood. I wish Tante was here to get us going. Too much 151 over the weekend?

3:04 PM  
Anonymous macaroni tits said...

I wish she was here too....I had her so fired up thursday- it was great..>She accused me of being one of natalee's cousins that she claims"raped and killed her" not joran of course....

3:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey people wasup. I'm Joran I'm 17 and I'm from Aruba. I really should be 18 but I spent my birthday in jail so I dont count it. I'm also really not from Aruba, I was born in the ND. I say that because it's cooler to be from Aruba than the ND. Other than that, I don't lie. I like soccer, tennis and playing hide the salami with drunk girls that I kind of "spike" their drinks to get them drunk faster. I have lots of friends, in Aruba being white, good looking and having some cash makes you a prince. My friends, more like leeches, that hang out with me, do it so girls that talk to me can also talk to them, even if they just tell them to fuck off. I guess the poor bastards feel like they are like me. If I get a girl drunk/ drugged enough I let them get a little piece to keep them happy, they'll take sloppy seconds as long as they get laid. Other than that, I pretty much do whatever I want. I gamble at the casino a lot and hang out at CC's. Aruba is great because if you're white and have a little money, doesnt have to be much, you can rule. As long as my "friends" get a little of my leavings they'll do whatever I want them to. They are such losers. I'm in the ND's right now collecting a huge inherentance. I'll go back to Aruba when people forget why I went to the ND in the first place. Maybe by November I'll go back to hang out. Besides, I got to go and make sure my wannabes done get out of line and start talking crap about me. People are saying lies as to why I came to the ND, but I'm telling you they are all lies. I dont know why people tell stories, I always tell the truth. Cant wait to be back in Aruba in November, my servan....I mean...my friend Deepak will take me wherever I want to go. His brother Satish will get my drinks. Ah, my buddies, I call them the Crakpoes, their real name is Kalpoe but they look like crack babies. I make a lot of fun of them and blame them for shit that I do for kicks. They are so funny, I got them in jail not too long ago. I got it made in Aruba. My daddy is good friends with all the infuential people. The stories we have, me and my pop. He is wild man, too. He is not like me, though. He sweats too much when he's lying or has done something bad. Kind of hard to play poker with him because everybody knows when he's lying. Not me. nobody can tell when I lie because I'm so good at it. Plus I always tell the truth.

4:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea, and I'm Shirley fucking Temple.
Have a good day!

4:37 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

"....I goona make you the best pancakes I ever made...."

Only with whipped cream!

4:40 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Hey, a new game is in: the Fake_Joran!

4:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, it's your turn. who are you going to be? How about Paulus. I think you can do him good.

4:43 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Waw!

4:44 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Well, have fun. For me it's bedtime (22.43)

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fake Joran? boy that's an oxymoron. You mean like there is a "true", like in truthful Joran? What is really the truth? I dont know, do you? Funny thing the truth is.

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just wait for tante...she can be Anita-

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante (Anita) has been kidnapped, as predicted by TJ Woods in the National Enquirer. Someone will be along soon asking for reward money.

4:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good night River, we'll play tomorrow.

4:56 PM  
Anonymous PruSites said...

I demand that this site go back to being what it was at the beginning, FREE JORAN! He isn't guilty or else he'd of not been freed!! Stop the bashing and name calling and racial comments!! Pathetic!!

5:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's right. Free Joran...wait a minute...he's free. Ok then...free the Kalpoes....huh? free too?...crap...ok....free who then? Rats....we got to free somebody...who else was with Natalee? Got all them free? Ok. Then lets put them back in jail so we can free them again. Free Joran!! Throw the Kalpoes in for kicks....everybody free. wheeee heeee!

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you know that TANTE is ANITA? -ex friend!

5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a yank
AUNTIE IS A nazi

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It makes sense

Tante=Anita

Anita might be in danger of getting kidnapped

Tante seems to have vanished!

OMG she is ANITA and she was KIDNAPPED

5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What if instead Tante is with Anita drinking coco locos at the nude beach. Paulus is away...who knows, maybe they are out there just kicking back having some fun. They need it. Anita with everything going on and Tante with how tight she's wired. I hope they both get laid. Maybe they'll go to CC's and find some american teenage boy to get drunk and take to the lighthouse and then....

6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That could be too!

6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante is here somewhere, just waiting in the background to pounce on us. She will probably be signing in as anonymous.

6:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These rapist killers had best worry about a hit coming from more than 2 continents. The police in Aruba or the Hague are completely powerless to protect them and their conspirators. Paul van der Sloot is just as guilty as these killers and is a prime target as well.

6:29 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

<80 IQ the lot of you Yankees, the above proves it and your IP's logged so this is for ever :)

Losers who can't handle the truth.

6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG tante has risen from the dead what is your hibernation over already? Damn we were hoping it would last a year or two.

7:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE FBI - Room 1400
2121 8th. Avenue N.
Birmingham, Alabama 35203-2396
birmingham.fbi.gov
(205) 326-6166

info media has is from the FBI too you damn sand nigga anonymous ass!

7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let Joran speak the truth, lololololololol
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE can't handle the truth.
He can't take responsibility for his actions.
He screwed up, BIG TIME.
LET jORAN KEEP TALKING, He likes the spotlight. HE WILL INCITE THE KALPOES TO TALK TOO. I wonder when Satish will spill his guts? THEN THE WHOLE STORY WILL COME OUT.
Only a matter of time till they crumble.There are only 2 secrets.
one not worth keeping and one too good to keep.

7:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clippity clop, here come auntie, gotta tell the SS on those damn juden.....then they give us cabbage and potatoes, black bread to feed mein children.

7:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you stupid son of a bitches who love these killers think there is not more than enough money out there to teminate these killers along with Paul van der Sloot? Money talks everywhere and bullshit walks. These sadistic killers will not be a part of this earth in the next 6 weeks. Prepare yourselves van der Sloot deviates and Kalpoe degenerates. It will not be a young girl you are punching on this time. I will be delighted when you are all in hell and the sooner the better. Do not think the Hague is any safer than the Internet cafe in Aruba. Fuck all you sorry assholes who defend these viscious killers.

8:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God, I pray that the FBI is somehow monitoring this site.

8:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have not posted anything for some time now. When I came back from the south I swore I would not get back into this. Of course when I sat down tonight and read about this interview Joran did and then about the death threats against him I had to see what everyone on here would have to say.

As far as the death threats I am sure they are true. I do think they have been exagerated to a point by the Vandersloots but I do know there are many very angry people out there wanting to hurt because they feel they have been hurt.

The people wanting to kill Joran are no better then those who harmed Natalee. If in fact he had something to do with all of this killing him is going to solve nothing. It will only leave many unanswered questions and screw up yet another persons life. If he is innocent then who ever hurts him is no better then the cause they seem to think they are righting.

Joran, the Kalpoe brothers and Beth are the same as far as lieing goes, they have all been put in the spotlight and no matter what they do or say someone some where is going to defend them and someone somewhere is going to use it against them.

If Dave was such a good dad he would have thrown a fit big enough to stop Natalee from going. When that didnt work he would have been on that plane by her side. dont say he couldnt how many times since she disapeared has he been on it. He should have been down there with her the first night she stepped off that plane then maybe none of this would have happened. If you are going to go to such great lengths to defend him then you need to be prepared for a rubuttal. Other wise you need to agree "it is no ones fault". I realize how parents can get caught up in things like this especially when dealing with divorces. I had a cousin disapear from a trip several years ago. They went to Chicago and she never came home. They found her 4 years later she had been kidnapped by some lady who was depressed after losing her child. Thank the lord she was fine. No Tante in my book God is not for fools, somtimes he is pretty good to have in your corner. Because of this my husband and I both took turns with our kids school trips. They never left on a single field trip or away game without one of us by their sides. No they didnt feel suffocated and actually we became pretty popular parents with the kids. See we live in a small farming community that is the safest in the state. Kids like parents to be involved around here. Both my kids are grown now and they thank me all the time.

None of this is bringing us any closer to finding out what happened to Natalee and saving her if she is alive and being held captive somewhere or if she is dead and her soul is screaming to be given a proper burial. We are all entitled to resting in peace. That is every living creatures right from birth, no matter how they lived their life.

Tante you have been blowing your own horn from day one, You came in with the Joran is innocent and I will bash all you yankees for saying anything. You threw out insults from day one. I cannot blame these individuals for being angry.

River I understand your defending Joran, when you started posting you were objective and there were many who wouldnt listen to the facts and attacked you for not taking sides. You have slowly began sounding more like Tante as the days have gone one. I have stepped away because of this. I do not want to let that happen to me.

Most of you I find very amusing you are funny and joke around. You can tell by your posts you are doing this more for entertainment and to waste time. Some of you are taking this way to seriously, ones who scream, swear and call cruel names really need to step back and think. If this site bothers you that bad or fuels a hate from deep inside. Walk away. Trust me, its not worth it. With that I say
PEACE LOVE HAPPINESS
FAITH AND HOPE ALWAYS
PROUD YANKEE, HAVE A NICE DAY


oh yes, let me not forget:
Yes I still have that feather named macaroni in my hat
No it is not on to tight
yes I do believe in God and no he is not for fools
No I do not want to suck your penis
Yes look in the dictionary it is spelled penis
Yes I am a proud Yankee, yes I did send money to Beth and I am damn proud of it
Yes I did go an help with the HurricaneS
No I do not hate anyone based on sex, race, color, creed, religion, country they are born in or country they call home, love preference, the type of music they like, what posters they have hanging in their rooms, education level, writing styles, type of car they drive, color of underwear, or how many times they go to the bathroom during the night. Everyone is my friend until they personally give me a damn good reason not to like them. Proudly it takes a pretty big thing to bother me, serious racism yeah that is a pretty touchy subject. You joking about the niggers in your closet, I would be careful, you would really crap if a tall heavy set white dude jumped out and slapped the crap out of you. That is way more likely then a black man, they usually dont hide in your closet. See you find them in the dark alleys of big cities, dont you watch the news?

10:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looking at the Sloot's family portrait posted by Joran on MSN Space, Joran's profile doesn't fit into the genetic match mix of the family menbers at all. Joran is just look so odd at the front of the picture shown. People begin to believe the rumors saying that Joran is an illegitimate child in the Sloot family. If Joran is an adopted child, why can the family tell the truth?

1:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why can't Beth ever tell the truth?
Why did Beth tried to hide from the media, the prosecution and even Dave that Natalee's step cousins Hunter and Thomas Twitty were on the same ill fated trip with Natalee, with her at Carlos & Charlies and the twins fled Aruba as soon as Natalee was noticed missing. Why is that they are under investigation and Dave was SHOCKED and SURPRISED to find this out 120+ days later. Like Beth's buddy Dr. Phil's mantra is:

THOSE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE...HIDE NOTHING

Beth is under the microscope. You will never see her back in Aruba because she is afraid of going to jail there for all that she is doing illegally.


You silly gullible yanks.....any one can pull the wool over your eyes. You have believed Beth without her showing you one shred of evidence to back up anything.....yet you believe anything you are told. That is not intelligence yanks .....that is ignorant.

2:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The simple truth is for Joran to flash his birth certificate in front of the camera to demonstarte that Joran is a true, real and honest person. People in fact do not believe all the speculations other than trying to ask Joran to confirm his true age, that has to do with other important issues.

2:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth is under the microscope. You will never see her back in Aruba because she is afraid of going to jail there for all that she is doing illegally.


Are you Steve Croes? Only the stupidest man on the planet could come up with such stupidity. They may not let her in, but if they put her in jail they will open Pandora's box and then the shit will really hit the fan. You do not want to piss the USA, stupid.

9:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Natalee mystery has become a wakeup call for all the parents in the world when they can comprehend the gravity of this particular public blog court case "The World vs Joran". What are you going to do about it when you have a born liar among your own family? People love Joran but now he is destroying everybody around him, including his beloved father. Why? Joran.

10:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn, I was hoping someone killed his pimples faced-ugly self...little faggy with his multi colored back pack- I haope he gets gang raped by a bunch of men

11:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do some of you people have a problem with Joran's height? He would make a great basketball player.
Do you same people have a problem with the height of USA Pro Basketball players.
Stop it already about Joran complexion. Over half of the teenagers I've ever know have skin problems. Even the Twitty twins appear to have pimples.
Anonymouns 11:17 I hope sometimes slaps your ears off your head for being such a little dumb ass.

12:01 PM  
Anonymous earless in seattle said...

^^^^^^actually, he needs acne medicine ASAP..maybe since he is a celebrity, he can do the Acne commercials with Jessica Simpson..but I hope he doesnt try to kill her...and, i dont like tall guys, really...oh , and I dont have ears , so no one can slap them ..na na na nee boo boo- looks like someone smeared Jorans face in Doo doo

12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the big deal about pimples?
Is that all you see is what is on the surface?
Stress, and certain foods can cause major break out on the face. Teenagers are especially susceptible to acne. Bet you had a few in your lifetime. Or are you a super model?

12:12 PM  
Anonymous BIG JUGS said...

Yes, i am a supermodel with perfect skin and a perfect 10 body....harvard grad and mother of 2..i am married to a doctor and i have a perfect life :-)

12:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good for you, then you should have something better to do than to waste your time here, making fun of people with sking problems.

12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Skin problems...guess you should be
SKING in the Swiss Alps.

12:26 PM  
Anonymous BIG JUGS said...

^^^^^^ RIGHT...and I might take one of the camel toe brothers or pimple face and throw them off a mountain..wanna go?

12:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

big jugs...for real...you're married? Dang...That's the worst news I've read on this blog.

2:26 PM  
Anonymous BIG JUGS said...

getting divorced though ;-)

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh yes, let me not forget:
Yes I still have that feather named macaroni in my hat
No it is not on to tight
yes I do believe in God and no he is not for fools
No I do not want to suck your penis
Yes look in the dictionary it is spelled penis
Yes I am a proud Yankee, yes I did send money to Beth and I am damn proud of it
Yes I did go an help with the HurricaneS
No I do not hate anyone based on sex, race, color, creed, religion, country they are born in or country they call home, love preference, the type of music they like, what posters they have hanging in their rooms, education level, writing styles, type of car they drive, color of underwear, or how many times they go to the bathroom during the night. Everyone is my friend until they personally give me a damn good reason not to like them. Proudly it takes a pretty big thing to bother me, serious racism yeah that is a pretty touchy subject. You joking about the niggers in your closet, I would be careful, you would really crap if a tall heavy set white dude jumped out and slapped the crap out of you. That is way more likely then a black man, they usually dont hide in your closet. See you find them in the dark alleys of big cities, dont you watch the news?

10:08 PM


that was one of the funniest posts yet!!! hahahahaaaaa ^^^^^^^^(last night)

3:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BIG JUGS said...
getting divorced though ;-)

2:41 PM

Whew! Had me worried there. I was about to start looking for another blog. Tante not here, you married, SMD not here, I was going to lose all interest here. Tante will be back from the obgyn soon, she had to go get a pap smear and a prostate exam.

4:04 PM  
Anonymous BIG JUGS said...

oh shes here alright..typing so fast, smoke is coming off of the keyboard

4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aunt Tante eees recovering neesly from her eencedunt weeth the rooster. She weel be bak on with yous shoortly. I doh want to see samthing bout yous guys meaking fon of skeen proooblems, Tante has theeese warts on hers booody freeem an oxident weeth her sheeel oils jub, beee caerfull bout teasing cause of skeeen prooblem. sheee geets leeetle upset bout it sooomtimes.

9:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FIRST OF ALL I PERSONALLY HOPE THE DEATH THREATS ARE TRUE. IT WOULD REALLY PLEASE ME TO SEE ALL THE FOLLOWING CONSPIRITORS DEAD,

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, RAPIST KILLER
DEEPAK KALPOE, RAPIST KILLER
SATISH KALPOE, RAPPIST KILLER
PAUL VAN DER SLOOT, LYING COCK SUCKER
BEN VOCKING, CORRUPT COCK SUCKER
JAN VAN DER STRAATEN, CORRUPT PIG
RUDY CROES, CORRUPT RETARD
KARIN JANSSEN, CORRUPT CUNT
STEVE CROES, IGNORANT MOORON

AGAIN MY ONLY WISH IS THAT THERE DEATHS ARE SLOW & PAINFULL

1:21 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

How comes you know so much? Rading the National Inquirer?
Reading to much rubish?
Of gewoon een jackass die gedachtenloos onzin neerpent?

6:23 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

I almost hope your future death wil bee slow and painfull too! But as I'm propably of a more human kind then you are my hopes for you are that you grow old in a healthy way!

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11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JORAN...AS YOU CAN SEE THAT HE IS A SEX MANIAC. HAVE POTENTIAL TO BE A PSYCHO KILLER. I HATE HIS FACE EVERYTIME I SEE HIM...LIKE A MIETJE. YOU GOT FAT MAN!!

6:05 AM  

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