Tuesday, September 06, 2005

Joran Van Der Sloot Arrives in Netherlands
Joran van der Sloot and his father arrived at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport, ignored questions from reporters, and quickly departed. The 18-year-old was to attend college in Holland, his mother said. (AP)

Joran Speaks To Reporters
Contrary to AP reports, Joran exchanged a few words with reporters.
(click on link for the video)











439 Comments:

Anonymous river_52 said...

Ik hoop dat je nu de rust vindt en vrede met jezelf krijgt! En pas op! Laat geen sporen na op het Net!

11:49 AM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

see the picture of Joran trying to suck out his mamaas brian!! man he a sick sick coon!!

12:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what a comment!! He is just saying goodbye to his mother...what the hell is wrong with that....Got nothing else to write about that you have to say something like that...what's next? ohno looks like Joran's nipple is hard which means he is horny which means he wants to rape someone?? COME ON PEOPLE

12:09 PM  
Anonymous Whitney said...

I hate the fact that he is out free, but, I would like to know how to contact him. I want to speak to him. I don't want to interrogate him about the case, I don't want to swarm him with a bunch of questions, but I would like to have the chance to speak with him. I want to learn what kind of a person he really is. Anyone have any ideas of how to get in touch with him?

12:20 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

un-tante, do something usefull and help the poor people in New Orleans, instead of spreading this mentaly retarded rubish!

12:23 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Whitney, I have some ideas, but not through this blogg!

12:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante how was the reunion?

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so very happy - and also a little worried for him - there are so many nuts in the world today - just hope he is safe over there and can go on with his life.

I too would love to contact him - just really want to wish he and his family well!

I hope he has a good support system over in Holland! Glad his dad is with him. Hope they eventually all can move there would probably be better and safer! Jan Brennan

12:58 PM  
Blogger D said...

Come on guys... dont you think he and his family have been through enough? Ever considered the fact that he might not have done anything wrong other then maybe leave her intoxicated and alone on the beach? And to all those people who say "oh look at that pic and oh my gosh he's having sex and drinks at such a young age" - Get a grip - wake up and smell the coffee - that is nothing unusual and all the teens these days do the exact same thing!

1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know and have contacted him but would never give out that info.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh and i'm a little confused at who you guys keep calling yankees?

1:07 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

"...that is nothing unusual and all the teens these days do the exact same thing!...."

Don't you think that we in the sixties at 15/16 were different? Forget it! Nothing's changed!

1:25 PM  
Blogger D said...

Exactly - it just sickens me that there is so much hate out there. :( Its really sad. Instead of trying to solve things, people just want to point the finger instead!

I dont know who runs this blog here, but I originally thought it was FOR Joran supporters! Now I am not so sure. God forbid someone would ever say anything "negative" about natalee - you'll get banned off the site etc etc etc... and here, they can bash whomever they want and their comments still stay!

Whatever - Joran - have a great time back in Holland. Anita, stay strong and be there for your sons (thats more then Twitty could say of doing for her son while she got her 5 min of fame)!

:)

1:34 PM  
Anonymous dg said...

"Everyone else does it!"

So let's see. If the speed limit is 65 MPH, and I do 80, and I smash into a motorcycle and kill the driver, should I say that to the cop? "Hey, lighten up, officer! Everyone else speeds!"

But this debate is not about screwing and getting drunk. The real point here is that Joran appears to be running the house. Paul claims that Joran climbed out the window to go drinking that night, so he didn't know when he left and when he came back. And it's common knowledge that Joran was a regular fixture at C&C's and other late-night party spots, where he scooped on vacationing American girls. What, was he sneaking out the window every single night without getting caught? Or did his parents lack the backbone, or the parenting skills, to discipline him?

2:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So let's see. If the speed limit is 65 MPH, and I do 80, and I smash into a motorcycle and kill the driver, should I say that to the cop? "Hey, lighten up, officer! Everyone else speeds!" '

This is actually a very poor comparison. Technically, research shows that driving with the flow of traffic at 80 is MUCH safer than going against the flow and obeying the speed limit of 65 when surrounded by drivers doing 80.

Just FYI.

And oh yeah, everyone is drinking and screwing at 15. That doesn't necessarily make it right, but it does make it difficult to single out one individual and try to differentiate him from everyone else particularly for that reason.

2:24 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

".......but I originally thought it was FOR Joran supporters....."

Just my thought, that's why I'm in. The guy has had enough of all this misserable sickmakening garbadge! So I discouvered there are searches for Joran's place where he now lives and goes to college; and why? Just so that those ..... can go on trying to make his life a hell (which already is!); what's the next step? Trying to liquidate him?? There are moments I think "hope you'll get the same in this life, so you can feel it"!

As I said above here, give your efforts and energy to those poor bastards in New Orleans and surroundings, then you do something usefull.

All this does not mean Natalee is out of my thoughts, never! She'll always be there!

Another thing:'" ......The real point here is that Joran appears to be running the house...."

Is this something new? Didn't you ever do this at the age of 16/17?? Well I did, does it make me a criminal?? Just exploring your borders.

2:29 PM  
Blogger D said...

Agreeable... however - that doesn't make him a murderer!

2:34 PM  
Anonymous shamrox said...

liquidate him?? that is funny, you mean like with a blender?? KEWL!!!!!

2:36 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Don't talk like a nitwit!

2:38 PM  
Anonymous joreena said...

joran thought he had a hair till he peed out of it! hehe!! he got a condition that makes him have litle testics.

2:40 PM  
Blogger D said...

This is soooo stupid! So just because we dont agree on things doesnt mean we have to call each other names, right? Cant we just be adult and have a real conversation?

Oh wait - I guess not! Beth was doing a lot of that - however - I never saw Anita doing a lot of the name calling... see a trend here?

2:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if he did it, it is going to catch up with him. if he didn't, he will be owed an apology.

2:44 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

yeah, anita was busy pickin thee bugs out of her teeth and the ticks out her pits. she an animal HEHEHEHE!!!!

2:44 PM  
Blogger D said...

You know what actually hysterical? That UN-TANTE thinks this is clever? Really comical! Is that what you are doing right now?

2:54 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

yes, I know I sure am a funny bunny hunny!! HEHEHE!!! I don't hate joran, I feel sorry for him being mongaloid and all, he will prolly never fit in with a society other than hte jungle he just came from in aruba. so sad, boo hoo

2:57 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

".....Cant we just be adult and have a real conversation?....."

Some persons never reach the state of an adult!

2:59 PM  
Blogger D said...

UN-TANTE - the only one you should be feeling sorry for is yourself! Dont have nothing better to do, huh? Dont have any friends, huh? Well, - then - maybe you should go and seek help!

3:06 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

poo poo anita, she her wunning awound the yard trying to catch her dinner!! see her wun see her wun!! there she go, get that chicken anita!!! she a savage beast! HEHEHEHEHEE!!!

3:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is interesting how much news coverage Natalee Holloway received. Knowing that there are so many other lost children we can only see on a milk carton, and most of us buy milk in the plastic bottles. In the USA there is something called inocent until proven gulty. In the Netherlands (or Holland = is the same place) they have a different law system. the american media just cannot deal with that, they just love to exagerate and blow out of proportion and look for drama because that is what sells, and since at that time there was nothing else going on, everyone was getting tired about the war in iraq they figured that was a good story. It is never a good thing when someone's child disseapears, and all the necesary measurements need to be taken to find out the whereabouts or what happened to that person, but then all of them need to be treated equally and not one more special then the other. Of course Natalee's mother is upset, who wouldn't be, but I do not think that Natalee was such an angel either stepping into a car with 3 boys in a foreign country. She was there with a big group of people and they were all drinking heavily, and where were those so called "friends" , why did they not stop her if she was drunk? And what about the chaperones? There are other mothers who are upset too. What about Joran's mom Anita and the deepak brothers' mom. What about their feelings? There is a lot of finger pointing and assuming of who did what, but until the authorities cannot find what really happened, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Until then I hope that the families can continue with their lives as normal as possible, until the authorities find out that really happened.

3:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anita, stay strong and be there for your sons (thats more then Twitty could say of doing for her son while she got her 5 min of fame)!

Oh please. Valentijn has been running the streets. He said it "sucks" at home. Anita and he live in the same house, everyday, and she still isn't there for him. At least Beth has done everything in her power to find her daughter. I can't find a single photo of Natalee passed out on the floor or a single blog entry from her talking about how much she stays away from home because she hates it there like I've found for the Van der Sloot sons. Yes, Anita, be there for your sons.

3:16 PM  
Blogger D said...

All awesome comments! I agree with you 110%

3:18 PM  
Blogger D said...

At least Beth has done everything in her power to find her daughter. <-- While she neglected to be a mother for her son!

3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

<-- While she neglected to be a mother for her son!

He's not a baby. He's 16 years old and completely able to understand how important it is to find his sister. Do you honestly think he is at home whining about being neglected while Beth is trying to find Natalee? I doubt he was raised with that level of selfishness.

3:32 PM  
Blogger D said...

Look - I am not saying that I would not do the same if my child would be missing! I am not saying that Beth has not given it her all! I dont know if you are male or female - I know - as a woman - as a mother of 2, that I could never, ever leave one behind! And maybe thats just me! Maybe other poeple dont agree, but thats how I feel. And I also know that my second child, regardless of age or how I raised them, would be right by my side! What the Holloway / Twitty family went through is a very tragic thing! Hopefully they will find justice and piece! But come on now, giving interviews every night?!?!?! Now Natalee's REAL dad, Dave had never been out there in the spotlight as much as the Twitty's ... know why? Cause he was out there, getting his hands dirty, trying to find his daugther!!!

What I cant stand is people not being able to put themselfs into the Van der Sloot family's shoes! And instead just say hateful and mean things! Its not right!

3:41 PM  
Anonymous Sasha said...

i agree with whitney...i too would like to contact him, even if it's just to offer support and encouragement...

3:56 PM  
Anonymous Kris said...

What a bunch of assholes you all are here, he is a killer rapist murderer and he needs to die! or at least suffer the way Natalee did. I hope the people wo will have the gutts to do something to him can walk away freely too.
GOD BLESS NATALEE AND REMEMBER: we won't forgive, we certainly won't forget.
Uni will be fun with all the emails and post coming into it from all over the world with his picture on it. Wow great way to start a new year lol

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I cant stand is people not being able to put themselfs into the Van der Sloot family's shoes! And instead just say hateful and mean things! Its not right!

Okay. Now, you look. How does saying hateful things toward Beth help the Van der Sloots? It doesn't. Why can't you put yourself in her shoes and respect the choices she has had to make to the best of her ability for all the members of her family even if they aren't the choices you would make for yourself and your family?

Parents make mistakes. It happens. I think Anita and Paul were too permissive. They'll have to pay the consequences for that just like we all do. It doesn't mean I hate them, and unfortunately, their mistakes are plastered all over the internet through the words and photographs of Joran and Valentijn. I don't know what happened to Natalee or if Joran did something to her, but I see absolutely no reason why he should not have been investigated to the fullest. I hope it was an honest and thorough investigation and that the investigation continues. If they find the proof he did something bad to her, I hope he pays for that. If he's innocent, I hope he gets on with his life and does well. All of them.

But, please, don't do what you say you are fighting against...throwing stones at hurting people who are doing the best they can with what they have to work with.

4:46 PM  
Anonymous dg said...

I can surely understand the pro-VDS point of view, but no matter how hard I try, I can't look at Joran or the Kalpoes as innocent victims in this case.

"This is a rush to judgment"
"The media is persecuting us"
"We are the victim of bias"

These are OJ arguments. If you listened to OJ's representatives during the trial, you would have thought that OJ was a 9-year-old boy scout who helped old ladies cross the street every day.

There is no physical evidence in this case, and as long as that remains the case, there will always be a remote possibility that Joran and the Kalpoes are totally uninvolved, as they all claim.

Assume for a moment that everything Joran has admitted to is true. That would mean the following:

1. Nat left C&C with Joran and the Kalpoes;
2. At some point, Natalee fell and hit her head but refused help;
3. Joran left her by herself at the beach.

#2 and #3 sound extremely suspicious to me.

For starters, I can't figure out why some high school chick would want to be left on a beach, all by herself, at 2 in the morning, while some "hunky" guy she was obviously attracted to wanted to walk her home.

Also, why would Joran tell the truth about hitting her head, when he was lying about taking Nat to the hotel? Why leave that particular detail in?

And speaking of that, why lie in the first place? People don't go missing in Aruba every day; he knew it was important to help the authorities find her as soon as possible, yet he continued to lie, for days, about dropping her off at the hotel, even after conferring with his father and his attorneys, both of whom surely told him to tell the truth. WHY?

5:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know - as a woman - as a mother of 2, that I could never, ever leave one behind! And maybe thats just me! Maybe other poeple dont agree, but thats how I feel. And I also know that my second child, regardless of age or how I raised them, would be right by my side!

A sixteen year old boy doesn't want his mom keeping him by her side. He has a life, with friends, school, and activities. Being overprotective is just as bad as being overly permissive. Beth's son has had other important adults in his life he has been turning to during this ordeal. Beth had phone access, and she made trips back to Alabama to be with him.

What the Holloway / Twitty family went through is a very tragic thing! Hopefully they will find justice and piece! But come on now, giving interviews every night?!?!?! Now Natalee's REAL dad, Dave had never been out there in the spotlight as much as the Twitty's ... know why? Cause he was out there, getting his hands dirty, trying to find his daugther!!!

It's heart-breaking to read other people's rules on how often a mother should ask for help in the media. Perhaps we should all put our heads together and make that decision. Every other day? Twice a week? How often should a mom looking for her child be allowed to speak to a media willing to listen?

I have nothing but respect for Dave Holloway. It isn't everyone who is willing or able to risk watching their dead child be unearthed from the local dump. He dealt with this the way he felt was right for him. We are all different people with different ways of solving our problems. I strongly suspect had Beth not kept persuing this through the media, not much would have been done about finding her daughter in Aruba. What was it she was told early on? Oh yes, "Go to Carlos and Charlies. It's ladies night. You'll probably find her there."

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth was not the only person in the world missing a loved one. I am sorry for her loss but it is unforgiveable to me to hogwhore the media spotlight for 3 months because there were countless other people who had a missing loved one - child, sibling, parent, relative, friend etc. who needed the public's help and needed the media as a resource to do so to get the information out. So how many other lives could have been helped or saved had they not have hogwhored the media the way they did? They are priveleged white people, who were given priveleges and they abused it. Has anyone EVER heard of any other family of a missing person, who were entitled to F16s and military? NEVER. There are countless missing people who don't have funds to help search for their lost loved one, and will never have that offer or assistance of search teams...let alone F16s. So how DARE these ingrates accuse and slander authorities and ARUBA and VDS and Kalpoes. They are a priveleged white family, who have $ and connections themsleves. Police don't even get involved in a missing child case til 48 hours and Jug used his connections to get the FBI in Aruba hours later after being notified of daughter missing. They also got on a PRIVATE PLANE ($$$$$) to fly there. And they have the audacity to accuse VDS of having connections? They have had MORE priveleges and connections themselves than ANY other family of a missing loved one. F16s!!!!

I feel very sorry for Dave. He did not spend time mediawhoring, he was doing searches in all kinds of conditions and at the front of the line should there have been a grim discovery...not something any father should have subjected himself to. But that wonderful man always brought tears to my eyes whenever I heard on the news what he was doing firsthand. JUG never got in that dump and dug did he? Did Beth grab a tool and dig in the dump and help? No, she was on the news bashing and slandering other innocent people and then went to the internet cafe, towed with hidden video cameras to confront a cornered boy behind a counter...defenseless and helpless because he would not leave his place of employment. Guerrila tactics much like the media cornering Joran in his cell.

So what Beth had phone to call her neglected son in AB. Why didn't she use her phone to call Natallee on her trip. Nat. never called her mom once during her trip and neither did Beth. Most parents want their child to phone to say they arrived safe .....or to check on them. Why didn't they have communication? Not that close huh? Jug had to drag Beth's ass back to AB when the son was starting school and she didn't even want to go. He needs his mom and he is going through alot missing his sister too. The world does not revolve around Beth. Look how fast the media dropped her ass and she can't even get on the news now! Good riddens.

5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, why would Joran tell the truth about hitting her head, when he was lying about taking Nat to the hotel? Why leave that particular detail in?

I didn't hear this about her hitting her head. I thought he just said she fell down. Still, even at that, I never could figure out why he left that in. It's as if he was trying to cover for some injury he knew she had received. But, if he was trying to cover for that, doesn't it suggest he thought she might be showing back up?

And speaking of that, why lie in the first place? People don't go missing in Aruba every day; he knew it was important to help the authorities find her as soon as possible, yet he continued to lie, for days, about dropping her off at the hotel, even after conferring with his father and his attorneys, both of whom surely told him to tell the truth. WHY?

Good question. This is why so many disbelieve him when he said he did not harm Natalee. If I remember correctly, Jug Twitty said Joran denied even knowing her at first. He may have come up with the Holiday Inn/security guard lie on the spot when he realized he wasn't going to be able to blow the Twitty's off. If so, his dad may have decided to believe Joran. I'm trying to give Paulus the benefit of the doubt, here. Giving Joran the benefit of the doubt, he may have thought he was in some kind of trouble for sneaking out and/or hanging out with Natalee, so he told some initial lies that kept snowballing on him.

6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth was not the only person in the world missing a loved one. I am sorry for her loss but it is unforgiveable to me to hogwhore the media spotlight for 3 months because there were countless other people who had a missing loved one - child, sibling, parent, relative, friend etc. who needed the public's help and needed the media as a resource to do so to get the information out.

Sorry. I couldn't get much further in reading your post because of the "hogwhore" statement. I'm sure the rest of your post is pretty much the same kind of talk. I did, however, want to address this issue of equal opportunity reporting for others who might want to engage in some semblance of rational dialogue.

It's unfortunate that all missing and probably endangered persons don't get the kind of media attention the Holloway case has. I was happy to see the media pay some attention to the disparity because of this case, though. Before the Holloway case, you never even heard it mentioned. I agree the problem should be addressed. However, Beth is not responsible for the problems of society or the media. She saw an opportunity, and she seized it. Good for her. Thousands of people started contacting the media to comment on it. It grabbed a lot of interest, and the media gave the people what they asked for. If thousands of people had been contacting the media before the Holloway case saying they wanted to see lots more stories about missing persons, that is what we would have been seeing.

You want to see more stories about all the missing persons? Contact the media and tell them about it. Obviously, very few did before this case. If you never made your voice heard before this, don't try and use it as an argument, now, on why Beth should just shut-up. The argument and motivations behind it are so transparent.

6:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it not a possibility that Joran did leave Natalee on the beach - unharmed. That would make him a jerk to do so, and not escort a woman back to where she was staying BUT her friends and chaperones (friends of family) were around and maybe she did not want him to walk her to the hotel. Because if they saw her showing up long after the bar closed, with a guy they would all know she did something with him, and she didn't want to look bad. So hypothetically speaking, she said she would walk back alone for that reason and harm came to her by someone else. Joran...who was at the hotel casino the next day would have known there was a missing woman by the same name, and he panicked worried and guilt ridden for not walking her back, even though she refused. So scared, AS ANY 17 year old would be.......asked for an alibi for friends....thinking FULL WELL she will show up safe but that didn't happen. So a LIE does not equate guilt of a crime. Again, this is a possibility as is he is guilty or something too. BUT LOOK AT ALL ANGLES people. Don't look at the angle that BETH spinned and lied and slandered and brainwashed you all with.

If Joran lied and Beth and Jug keep insisting that he must be hiding more. Well then Beth and Jug lied too as we all know they have done repetitively....so by that same philosophy then what the F are they hiding themselves huh? They should practise what they preach.....they want JORAN to tell the truth well why don't they? Why doesn't JUG and BETH take a lie detector? Why don't the students on the trip take lie detectors? What about her ex boyfriend on the trip take a lie detector? What about any male chaperones taking lie detectors? There are more players in this game than the VDS and Kalpoes.

6:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a black family in Philadelphia missing their 5 month pregnant daughter. That family could not GET the woman's picture or name or info on the news because of the Beth mediawhoring. They had to protest and beg and go to all lengths for a few seconds....but guess what holloways....that was a few seconds too late.....that woman was found dead. Had her image been shown on tv earlier, she might have had a different ending. How many other corpes and blood are on their hands too, as a result of their mediawhoring? Their $ bought their media time and not people's interest because more people all over the world inundated the media air waves to get them off the air. We didn't want to see it hour after hour after hour after day after week after month after month. So much so I cancelled all my news channels on my satellite to be rid of Beth.

6:30 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

At least Joran will get a chance at a 'normal' life again. It must be terrible to be tried and convicted in & by the media.

He will be quite safe in Holland, the press is not interested in him, one reporter at the airport as far as I can see.

I hope for his sake that Nat'lee turn up, alive would be fine, dead hopefully with some evidence as to who killed her, if indeed there was a crime, she could have drowned.

6:42 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Hmmm, actually I see two reporters :)

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So much so I cancelled all my news channels on my satellite to be rid of Beth.

So, you were so sick of the "mediawhore" that you actually cancelled ALL of your news channels to be rid of her, so you could come and post on a blog about it??? LOLOLOL.

I swear. Some folks just can't be happy unless they can find something to be horribly offended about. I wouldn't be surprised to know that some people believe Joran is innocent because they find Beth annoying. How's that for investigative technique?

6:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope for his sake that Nat'lee turn up, alive would be fine, dead hopefully with some evidence as to who killed her, if indeed there was a crime, she could have drowned.

I hope for everyone's sake that Natalee is found and the truth comes out.

7:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BURN IN HELL JORAN. YOU LOW LIFE LYING PIECE OF SHIT SCUMBAG. YOU ARE A COWARD. I HOPE YOU LIVE A LIFE OF MISERY. MAY WHAT YOU DID TO NATALEE LIVE WITH YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR SORRY LIFE. TOLIET SCUM. !!!

7:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEWSFLASH - this is a blog for Joran and even though I cancelled all news channels to get away from the mediawhore I can't even come here to support Joran without you terrorist racists here spreading more hate and ill wills. Do I need to cancel my internet connection also to avoid such assinine behaviour? What is wrong with you people.....live in reality and get a LIFE. Stop living through strangers lives and lies!

Get with the program. All those blacks were left to die in New Orleans and it's disgusting. Inexcuseable. Unforegivable. A starving black person takes food from a grocery store and the caption is "LOOTING FROM A GROCERY STORE. A white person with the same food taken from a grocery store is a caption "FINDS FOOD IN STORE" There is the evidence ----in black and white and that is no pun. These are is a sad, shameful day for Americans and the whole world is witness to it. Does everyone know that they kept those victims of New Orleans prisoner in the sky dome? About 30.000 people. Tortured them telling them for days help was coming, food was coming and it wasn't. They were LOCKED INSIDE ..without food or water. They could not leave. THE BLACKS WERE PRISONER left to die. If Geraldo Rivera didn't go in there to show the world, they would have all died. He is a hero for getting them out of there when the guards were there with instructions to keep them in. The prisoners could have easily (if weren't kept against their will - like Joran was!) walk across the bridge to the other side of hope, where there was shelter, electricity and food. Those people in the astrodome were 5 days without food or water. BABIES had no formula or diapers. THEY WERE PRISONERS OF BUSH.

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction !!!
WHAT JORAN'S DADDY TOLD JORAN AND THE KALPOES BROS THE NIGHT THEY TOOK CARE OF NATALEE.
THAT'S WHY TANTE BET (ANITA) KNOWS THESE WORDS SO WELL. ANITA, YOU ARE TOO OBVIOUS.

7:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What type of an individual observes and experiences the type of pain a family, goes through - not knowing what happened to their daughter - and yet refuses to tell the truth?

7:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello , i just want to make a question for the people who think that Joran have anything to do with Natalee's Disapearence, Why do you think that Joran told the police 23 Versions of the History of the Natalee's disapearence ??? and why he confess that he killed??? and then buried.??? what happen with those comments...? well thanks , just asking , please i dont want to fight just because i dont have the same idea of the people in this forum , well that's all

7:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEWSFLASH - the statement "no body no case" etc is an EXTREMELY common phrase that defense attorney say on a daily basis in their lives to clients who are accused of a crime. It is a general statement that lawyers say when explaining the law. So is "no weapon no ...". So what might sound so incriminating to you common folk, is a totally normal statement and lanugage to a laywer, as would be "how are you" to everyone else. Every laywer, even in USA knows they say that phrase constantly and daily. But nooooooo, none of the legal experts on FOX or CNN admitted to that, even though they do it themselves. It is common practice. Besides, do any idiots here really have any PROOF of anything they say? Did anyone HEAR Paulus say that? Did you view the court files of anything? CAn anyone back up anything they say? I sure can find plenty of legal proof that "no body no case" is a legal statement said every day by defense laywers when explaining the law to clients. ITS A FACT OF LIFE AND LAW. Guess what? No body no case can also mean ...if found alive there is no body and then no case either.

It takes the same amount of energy to think positive as it does to think negative.

Why dont some of you use your hateful energy to go help your black neighbours and felllow americans who are treated so poorly and suffering so much. I am caucasian and Canadian and I am disgusted at the racism down there.

7:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's analyse logically your allegations and accusations against Joran.

You base your allegations on what the media and Beth and Jug told you. Well the media also told the people of NO help was coming and it was a lie. The media tells us lies every day. Smoking doesn't cause cancer. Genetically modified food is safe. Blah blah blah.

Show us the proof or shut up.

7:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am glad to see that Joran is going on with his life, and not staying in Aruba to further this media frenzy. I am sure if he had chose to stay, Beth would have stayed as well. It is really best for all parties involved to get on with their perspective lives until evidence finally comes forward or Natalee is actually found.
Personally I have never been convinced of his, or anyone involved guilt. If this case was being tried in the states I for one cant say based on what we know I would vote guilty. Then again, they would not have been arrested.
I find it fascinating to those of you out there quick to judge the actions of another you do not know. Or do even be a sunday morning quarterback to anyone elses parenting skills. Unless the way joran was raised, or if he runs the house affects you personally on a day to day basis...Why do you care? Do you live there?
Anyway also as far as the Looters in New orleans for whoever posted that. The media can say whatever they want to, but I do believe their Governor made it clear. The law is LA provides that no one will be convicted if they are looting things needed for survival. Only those stealing the TVs, microwaves, guns, ammo etc will be prosecuted and rightfully so. I honestly hate when people play the "race" card, fact of the matter is New Orleans is 68% african american. I saw white babies lethargic on TV as well. I didnt see any hispanics, maybe I should protest Fox and say how dare they not show my own people suffering? Ridiculous. We need to get as much help out to these people as we can, and play our polotical issues later. They are what matters right now more then anything else.

7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe this discussion is about the hurricane - there are other places to post on that topic.

(taken from Scared Monkeys discussion AnnieMW1)
There is a lot of circumstantial evidence. And the number of lies he told were many:

- he was an exchange student staying at the HI;
- he never saw Natalee and didn't know who she was (when confronted by Jug, et al and shown her picture);
- oh yes, he did know Natalee, left C&C's with her, and dropped her at the HI;
- maybe the black security guards got her;
- oh well not the HI, the Marriott;
- he left her on the beach - Deepak came back to get him and drove him home;
- he left her on the beach and walked home;
- maybe Deepak killed her, he doesn't really know...

If he is not guilty how about the truth regarding what happened that night?

8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmmmm..discussion on internet sites does not indicate facts or proof based on fact. So before you quote things in la la internet land back it up with physical proof. Did you see the police statements? NO. Noone has. Therefore you can't know what was in them. Nor what was said and/or not said. You are only repeating what you were told. In court that is heresay (even if it is true heresay) and is not admissable. WHAT YOU ARE TOLD DOESNT COUNT in or out of court.

To ask if Joran knew Natalee and he said "no". That's not a lie. He did not know her. He met her the night before. He knows who she is, but he DID NOT KNOW HER. That is not a lie.

NOBODY HERE HAS PROOF OF ANYTHING ...beit innocence or guilt.

Noone has proof that a crime was committed.

Noone has proof that Natalee is dead.

Noone has proof that Natalee is alive.

8:20 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

you don't know any of your list is actually true...

"Why do you think that Joran told the police 23 Versions of the History of the Natalee's disapearence ???"

They are not 23 different version of a story, he must have been questioned many times during those 86 days...

Now a detective comes in and asks what type of sigaret is Deepak smoking, Joran answers Camel, detective says but 3 weeks ago you said Malborough. Did I ? Well I'm sure now it was Camel.

There 1 more version is typed out and signed, and all you dummies go: "Well he told 23 different stories, he must be guilty". Idiots !!!

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction !!!"

8:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh come on where did Un Tante go? I love reading those funny statements. At least Un Tante comes up with something new to say unlike someone else we know........Come Back Un Tante we miss you!!!!!

8:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God please do not listen to this hate instead bless each and every one of these individuals, they do not mean the hateful things they say. Please if Natalee is alive take care of her and keep her out of harms way until she returns home to the family that loves her. Bless her family and relatives and help comfort them in these trying times. Bless Joran and keep him safe from those who want to do him harm. Bless his family and help them to be strong with him during this troubled times. In the name of Jesus Amen.

9:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow! and I thought the "birds and the bees" talk with my dad was awkward. Can't imagine how the "dad I'm being investigated for murder talk" would go. Maybe my dad just isn't cool.. because for SURE he would have a hell of a lot more to say to me than: NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction !!!"

9:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can tell you he would not have told me something like that, doubt a trip to the woodshed would even begin to start the punishment he would have doled out, times sure have changed. I mean think about this several years ago, bad enough to be drinking so much but going to a bar, picking up a girl, taking her to a beach with 2 other guys and admitting to sexually assaulting her? My old man would have hit the roof!
Please some one change the channel on that ignorant saying good gravy people. Enough is enough.
I also found great humor in Un-Tante and would love to have him or her back
thank you for your blessing and God Bless you also

10:05 PM  
Anonymous motherof6 said...

I like to just mention one thing.. We all forget that those 3 boys took Natally.. Now don't you think for one minute they know where she is?

sign me a mother of 6

10:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee's friends admitted seeing her WILLINGLY getting into the car with the boys. WILLINGLY getting into a car with 3 male strangers in a foreign country. It is even in the police records that the Kalpoe car stopped down the street at a light (by busstops) and she talked to her friends from the car ...and said she was OK. SHE WAS NOT TAKEN from C & C. She went willngly. That is all we know as concrete proof. But Beth and Jug did not mention that. Nor did they mention that it was NATALEE who, at the casino approached Joran (who was playing) and SHE introduced herself to him and was the one talking to him first. She wanted him to help her win money she had lost. HER FRIENDS said that on the record. SO HOW was he a predator when she approached him.

She didn't deserve to be missing now, and let us pray she is found soon. But other people are responsible, including her for getting into a car with 3 male strangers in a foreign country. Her friends for watching idly while their female friend get into a car with strangers. I am 36 and I would NEVER let a friend of mine get in a car with a male stranger, even if they wanted to and fought me, I would NEVER let that happen. Just like I would NEVER let a friend drive drunk. Hell, I wouldn't even let a stranger drive drunk if it was in my power to see and observe that. Parents should not send their female daughters to foreign countries unescorted ----period.

10:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is a LIAR!! I can't even look at his face! He makes me SICK!!

10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It makes me sad to see the boy leave to go to college when there is a young women who is either out there or gone with our heavenly father above. That he has been given the option when she has'nt been given that option. I have a daughter of the same age and it hurts me to see what that family is going through. Mrs. Twitty is alot stronger than I feel I could ever be. May God's speed be with this family and Natalie.

12:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I HOPE JORAN BURNS IN HELL FOR HIS MURDEROUS ACTION AGAINST NATALEE, THAT SON OF A BITCH!!!!!

12:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Parents make mistakes. It happens. I think Anita and Paul were too permissive. They'll have to pay the consequences for that just like we all do. It doesn't mean I hate them, and unfortunately, their mistakes are plastered all over the internet through the words and photographs of Joran and Valentijn.

====================
And you think the Twitty's were not permissive with Natalee? She and Joran are almost the same age, he only slightly younger. Natalee and her group were given permission by the MBHS parents to get the free drinks - all week - wrist bands at the Holiday Inn, she was drinking and gambling, same as Joran, but she was in a foreign country while he was 10-15 min away from his parents home. It was Natalee, not Joran, giving navel shots and dancing on the bar at c&Cs. How can you criticize one family for being permissive, and then say the other is different. If anything, the Twitty's were more permissive than Jorans because this was a foreign country Natalee traveled too. I am not critizing either of the families, rather am pointing out the irony of the critizing one family over the other.

12:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You better ask God for forgiveness for those nasty remarks or you'll be the one in hell.

12:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEWSFLASH - the statement "no body no case" etc is an EXTREMELY common phrase that defense attorney say on a daily basis in their lives to clients who are accused of a crime.
==========================
Actually, on another blog several times it was noted that someone who read the actual statements made by PVS that this "no body no case" was never even said this way. It was something taken out of context and words changes to build a media hype.

12:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

admitting to sexually assaulting her
=======================
There never was an admission of sexual assault. This is just what the Twitty's said. Joran told them on night one that he and Natalee had consensual sex. They said she would never have consented to this - thus it was sexual assault. Have you noticed that none of the US news reporters ever repeated this sexual assault claim, that it only is statements made by the family. Have you noticed that there were no charges for sexual assault? That's because there was never an admission of assault, nor any circumstantial evidence of it.

12:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Truth hurts! There is nothing that person posted that was not truthful. If you are offended by that posts contents and consider it nasty... you are offended in actuality by the truthful facts of the behaviour of Natalee and her family allowing a young woman to travel to a foreign country unescorted. It is illegal for that group to drink in the USA but they were given permission by parents to travel to a location that would allow them to drink and do drugs freely. Belly shots = lying on a bar while bartender pours shots in your belly button and some guy drinks from it.

12:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am in my late 30s and I would never get in a car with a male stranger, let alone 3 male strangers. I would never let a female friend of mine leave a bar with a male stranger or ever get in a car with a guy we didn't know. I would use force if necessary to prevent that from happening. Yes we all make mistakes and I know in hindsight her friends wished they had used common sense. But it makes me wonder what was ALL of their states of mind, if they were on mind altering drugs besides being drunk, because I find it hard to believe that so many female close friends of her watched her do that, let alone she did that willingly. And how NOONE, not any of her 3 roommates was alarmed when she didn't show up back at the hotel after the bar closed. They didn't find it worrysome when their "friend" who got in a car with 3 male strangers did not show up at 2 am, 3 am, 4 am, 5 am, 6 am, 7 am, 8 am. They all KNEW she left with a guy, and they didn't find that out of character for her, they all thought she slept in....at a MALE STRANGERS HOUSE in a foreign country. It took her parents arriving in the city a day later, only a few hours to locate the boys and residence....those girlfriends and classmates could have done that in the wee hours of the morning. I am not casting blame I just find the entire thing very strange....based on those facts. I am sure everyone has regrets and has learned a hard lesson but what kind of friends were they to let her get in a car with strangers in a foreign country? It's putting oneself in a situation that isn't safe....even if it was innocent it's just stupid and extremely careless thing to do. I am sorry she made that terrible mistake.

1:12 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

" ....I HOPE JORAN BURNS IN HELL FOR HIS MURDEROUS ACTION AGAINST NATALEE, THAT SON OF A BITCH!!!!! ..."

Nothing proved! This is "freejoran.com" go somewhere else with your frustrations! Easy, to speak in this anonimus way!

1:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was NEVER any evidence against Joran Van Der Sloot. Whatever happened to the American ideal of "innocent untill proven guilty"?

2:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's innocent

4:05 AM  
Anonymous BandFromSM4Life said...

"... I'm laughing my @$$ off at ya'll"

4:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Welkom terug in Nederland, Joran.

5:04 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"taking her to a beach with 2 other guys and admitting to sexually assaulting her?"

Same false statement repeated fron the tabloids :(

Joran has admitted to kissing her in the bback seat of the car---pool bro's

You Yanks are really sick:
A kiss = sexual assault ?
A picture of a 13 yr old girl in bikini = porn ?

Where do you get these dumb ideas ?
From "your leader" ?
From Church on Su morning ?

Tell me....

9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Yanks are really sick:
A kiss = sexual assault ?
A picture of a 13 yr old girl in bikini = porn ?

Remember Tante not all of us Yanks are on the God Squad. I don't mind you calling me a Yank but don't put me in them Church freaks:):)

9:50 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Shall I seek real USA porn and show it right here?

Think I won't do this cause this site is in benefit of Joran, the boy suffered enough!

Besides that it would drag the remembrance of Natalee through the mud!

10:17 AM  
Blogger J-Dubs said...

Whoa, Let me address the Canadian. Don't even start meddling in this shit, you are simply an observer, buddy. Your country is like our lazy upstairs neighbor, who keeps to themsleves, and doesnt do shit. Really, man, "I am a caucasian and a Canadian , and I am disgusted at the racism down there".
Well come on down , and lend a hand in New Orleans is you are so concerned, has your country helped out? When does Canada ever do anything? For Real.

10:28 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Ye talk about my country, I just came to live here, no more! Do you think I'm happy about all the shit right here? Name one country without shit!
Meddling, observer? What you know bout me?
Concerned? Where were you in '53?
But I think this isn't the place for this kind of shit!
Came here just because of the title of this blogg!

10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I HOPE YOU, (ANITA) AND PAUL VAN DER SLOOT ARE NOT RAISING YOUR OTHER TWO SONS TO BE MURDERERS! GOD FORGIVE YOU IF YOU BOTH ARE! JUST REMEMBER, JORAN WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO WONDER WHO'S BEHIND HIM WHEREVER HE GOES OR WHATEVER HE DOES. MURDERERS DO NOT SURVIVE! AND, YOU JORAN WILL NEVER, EVER SURVIVE... YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR ACTIONS SOONER OR LATER, IF NOT NOW!!!!

10:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KALPOE BROTHERS...... YOU WILL ALWAYS WONDER IF SOMEONE IS WATCHING AND LISTENING..... REMEMBER, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.... EVENTUALLY, YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR SINS!

10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You just went there to live? so your a draft dodger? Running from the cops? A dead beat dad? hmmmmm Maybe you should go to Holland and move in with Tante. Sounds like you two have a great deal in common.

10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm all for Joran being free. He never should have been held that long to begin with. There is no proof that Natalee isn't still alive. I am from the U.S. and I'm tired of the God Squad posting their "Burn in Hell" statements, along with all the other threats against Joran. I just didn't want Tante Bet to think that all americans are on some kind of crusade for god or jesus or whoever. I for one am not!!

11:00 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

"....Maybe you should go to Holland and move in with Tante. Sounds like you two have a great deal in common....."

Adressed to me, well, odn't worry! I live their! And, some inside information, I'm Antillian two!! So!! Having a great deal in common with tante? I don't mind at all.


"....I just didn't want Tante Bet to think that all americans are on some kind of crusade for god or jesus or whoever......"

I don't think tante Bet thinks that way, neither do I, but sometimes, since I stay at this...??

11:04 AM  
Anonymous river_52 again said...

Sorry, not odn't, but this must be "don't".

11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what is with the sept 17th prediction? Did I miss something? Could someone share where this came from? Perhaps a website to read?

Actually River_52 I think that comment from earlier was a mix up, Draft dodgers and dead beat dad's from America often run to Canada for protection, just a thought. At least that was how I read it anyway.

11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a christian and have never once wished anyone to burn in Hell, please do not put me in the catagory of anyone who wishes harm on another living creature. My thoughts are if anyone hurt Natalee God will take care of them. If Natalee is alive somewhere God will watch over her. He will also watch over all of the families involved in this case and comfort them. He will also watch over and help those in the war and struck by the Hurricane. God does not make bad things happen to good people. He only comforts and helps them. God is very forgiving and Loves all of us whether we love him or not. He will always be there waiting for you to come to him. The peace you feel when you do is very much worth it. Remember Sticks and Stones, seems some on both sides of this foolish string need to do some growing up.

11:41 AM  
Anonymous Sasha said...

hey, j-dubs...

i'm a canadian, living in Boston, and i totally follow the news up there. within 4 days of the hurricane, canadian vessels were on their way to the gulf with food, supplies and volunteers...not to mention that 20,000 cots left Montreal headed for Texas to help out the American Red Cross...and how about how our soldiers are also in Iraq, assisting and fighting right alongside American soldiers, when our country wasn't attacked.

I suggest you read the news before you start attacking someone else's country.

11:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AND THE MURDER WALKS!

12:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OOPS - SORRY!~
THE MURDERER WALKS! I guess Tante's typos are rubbing off on me!

12:28 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Sasha, I love you (in a spiritual way)!!

Too many of this sort don't read or follow news. The same we see here in Holland. Always canker on other people without getting the point! Without seeing whats realy happening.

That's why I asked myself, what are they doing on this blog. They should go to http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php, there they find their likeminded, or in simple words: the people who like to hang Joran on a tree by themselves; guilty or not guilty.

12:30 PM  
Anonymous Sasha said...

Thanks river_52!

Maybe it's because i wasn't raised with the American 'mob media mentality', but this is the only forum that i can actually read without wanting to stab myself in the face. and there is a simple solution...like i said...read the news!!

if you don't like the way something is done in your own country, do something about it! but don't go trying to impose your country's beliefs on others. Canada and Holland and most other countries in the world have been around longer than America..obviously. we're doing something right!

1:23 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Pleased to meet you, Sasha!
Don't stab, cause you seem to be a good person with the heart on it's right place!
I didn't knew the American 'mob media mentality until the Holloway history, but now I do. Is this the same country from which the words "fast-food mentality" comes from (just some other topic)?

1:32 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"I don't mind you calling me a Yank but don't put me in them Church freaks:):)"

My apologies :)

For the Yanke intelligencia;
Repeat after me 7 x

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

1:41 PM  
Anonymous Sasha said...

You're exactly right..I never saw such arrogance since I moved to this country...I also travel to Europe quite frequently, mostly France, and I am always quick to point out that I am CANADIAN...and i feel for Joran, i truly do...i believe that he will never have a normal life again, and he deserves one...because he WAS NOT found guilty of anything...i wish him the best in all he does and if i ever got the chance to talk to him or meet him, i would tell him exactly the same thing...i just hope that he can have as normal a college experience as possible.

1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

j-dubs:
Canada offered military assistance to New Orleans immediately after and your president DECLINED the help. Why don't you ask him why? He wasn't sending his own troops and was denying others - he would have looked stupid had Canadians gone to help directly. The answer is quite clear - he didn't want to help them. Instead he locked 30 000 in the dome, as prisoners without food or water and let them die til Geraldo got them help. Shameful. Also - FYI on Sept 11, when Bush thought there were other hijacked planes and he closed the airspace in USA - he would not let any planes land there and said "here Canada - F U ...you land these planes with bombs on them" and we had no choice to. Thankfully there were no more bombs on it. I bet noone knows that Bush did that to Canada - he has no care for blacks or Canadians. And we never descriminate and we always help you ingrates out anyway. We are not racists and we do not judge. Joran and his family are welcome in Canada anytime!!!!!!!!! But keep Beth and Jug outta our great country thank you.

2:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shame on Aruba!! What a disgrace. Those boys committed a crime and they know it, Aruban officials know it and we know it. I cannot believe how the Aruban government has repeatedly covered up everything from the very beginning, pretending to do so much and the Holloway family have to bite their tongues in hopes that the Aruban people really would do something to help. They have played all of us for fools from the beginning and now we no longer must bite our tongues. Shame on Aruba - that kid is a disgrace to all human beings and his parents are even more of a disgrace. I will never ever visit Aruba and pray no other Americans will ever go there. You can forget about any justice in Aruba. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME. I wish that kid would suffer the rest of his life with his guilt but I believe he is a true sociopath and feels no remorse as his only concern is himself and what benefits he can attain due to his ignorance and that of his father. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME

2:49 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Shame, shame, shame (which group released that song again??).

Commited a crime? New evidence??

3:03 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Call the FBI !!!!!! Case solved, anonymous knows it all :)

Stupid Yank !! Have a nice day ?

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

3:31 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

tante, out in her yard doin the KKK dance in her old beat up wooden shoes, did you ever catch that chicken??

3:44 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

-d-, you helping tante with that chicken?? you and her whippin up a mean batch of dutchen jumbolia? HEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!

3:46 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

you lik dem frog leggs?? HEEHEHEHEHEEEE!!!!

3:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY SASHA!
go back to Canada where the dollar is worth so much more, what are you doing in Boston? Last time I looked boston was in America.

3:51 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

tantee and -d- are busy today, they chokin chickens to make there fine dutchen jumbolia! they goona put the leftoverd in the fridgerator out on they front porch! they keep there washers and dryers and fridgerators out on there porchs those crazy dutch people do, the dutch are 'bubbas' OHHHH!! LOLLOL!!! HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!

4:01 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

look at that picture, joran is trying to rip off anitas head!! look how he got her head bent forward, he is fixing to remove it!!! OMG!!!!!OMG!!!!!!!!!

4:02 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

all I see the crzy dutch saying is, hoop hop det!! DUH!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!crazy bastards LOL!!

4:04 PM  
Anonymous tantes mother said...

TANTE!!! This is your mother!! You stop calling people stupid yanks, you hear me!!!! Do NOT forget, your great great great and great grandaddy is Paul Revere!!

4:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tante wooden shoes pinch her toed, give her a break, she is a yank so she is alright.

4:12 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

The collective intellect of Yankee land is present again :)
all 80 IQ points

Bad losers

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

4:21 PM  
Blogger D said...

Well hello there! I see not much changed on this discussion! "UN-TANTE" is still up to no good, but at least I see that you missed me too! LOL :)

Whatever! I cant be bothered! All I know is that today is a beautiful day! The weather is awesome and there is not a cloud in the sky! :)

Hope everybody has a nice evening & hopefully as the days go by, kids go back to school and adults go back to their lifes, maybe you HATERS find it in your heart to actually see the truth!

As for me, I must run for now and I will check in again soon!

xoxoxoxo

4:53 PM  
Blogger D said...

Well hello there! I see not much changed on this discussion! "UN-TANTE" is still up to no good, but at least I see that you missed me too! LOL :)

Whatever! I cant be bothered! All I know is that today is a beautiful day! The weather is awesome and there is not a cloud in the sky! :)

Hope everybody has a nice evening & hopefully as the days go by, kids go back to school and adults go back to their lifes, maybe you HATERS find it in your heart to actually see the truth!

As for me, I must run for now and I will check in again soon!

xoxoxoxo

4:53 PM  
Anonymous Sasha said...

actually, i'm here helping my family take care of another sick family member..but thanks for your concern...

the only problem i have with America is the fucking media and the way it runs this country...Boston is a great city, and i like it alot...

and was it just me, or did that 'where the dollar is worth so much more' comment really make no sense, considering it was directed to a CANADIAN?? why should i care about who much the american dollar is worth in Canada?

7:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all the Americans who boycott Aruba and claim to never go there because it is unsafe...
Last time I checked USA has the highest crime rate, gun violence amongst their own citizens etc. In the good ol'e USA children aren't even safe in their beds because other sicko Americans are breaking in and stealing innocent and helpless children from their bedrooms, right under their roof.

Why don't some of the most outspoken and vengeful Americans here do something productive in their own back yards. Why dont you go harrass some convicted criminals there who are free on the streets. Most of them convicted with proof of viscious crimes. How many repeat offender pedophiles are released and out there in the community with your children right now, living next door and those sickos have rights and walk freely amongst you all ...without any of your knowledge. Look at the damn laws in the USA before you go bash and critisize Aruba's laws.

Beth & Jug cry injustice but they fail to realize that their problems are not isolated to Aruba. In the USA the authorities dont' do much better when someone is missing. Everyone must be familiar with John Walsh (america's most wanted). His 6 year old boy was taken from them in a mall while shopping with his wife..in a split second he was gone. They called the police who did NOTHINg. John was told that "maybe he walked home". A 6 year old doesn't know how to get home from there. The police did f - all. He faced such brick walls and disappointments that he went to congress and fought laws and he has helped so many people on his own with his show. There are thousands if not millions of stories like this of people with missing kids or loved ones who did not receive any kind of proper assistance from the law. And NONE of the missing American families ever received F16s or military assistance from the US government either. Texas Equasearch started because of injustice in the USA when Tim's daughter went missing and the police did f all for him. So this is a widespread phenomenon in the USA. Hell, I tell Arubans and Canadians don't go to USA it's not safe there!!!!!!!

Beth got way more help in Aurba than most people do in any other country with a missing person. She does not know where her daughter is but she received extraordinary help above and beyond requirements and every inch of that island was searched. She goes home broken hearted but peace of mind every inch was searched. Imagine all the people in USA missing loved ones who did not have any help, not from search teams and not from their own government in USA. So look at your own damn laws and bitch at your own government and your own governors etc because things aren't right there legally either.

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Micheal Jackson walks free
OJ walks free
Charles Duncan convicted pedophile walks free and murders and does more pedophilia
US CIA trained Bin laden to fight against Russia.

and Martha Stewart goes to jail for stocks and under house arrest for how many months with ankle bracelet vs Duncan and convicted pedophiles high risk to repeat again released and free amongst public don't have ankle bracelets?
ENOUGH SAID AMERICA!!

8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hillarious article on Useless-knowledge.com by an Isabella Newman..its about Joran's life in Holland.

CHECK IT OUT FOR A GUARANTEED LAUGH!

10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Welcome Back Un-Tante!! I for one missed you. Needed a laugh tonight and there you were, how can you not laugh at those funny comments!!!

10:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sorry to see so many Anti -American comments here, but not
surprised.

The USA is definitely not a perfect country, but without us most of you losers would be marching with a goose-step or would have been skinned and made into a lamp shade.

I came on this site curious as to what happened after Joran left.
I think he and the Kalpoes murdered Natalee and got away with it. Natalee was foolish to go with them and now she is gone.

We are taking care of our own people here in the badly battered South, and you anti-American haters should shut up and realize that we as a Nation care about your sorry asses and would, without hesitation come to your aid, if ever you needed us to defend you.

So go on hating us. We will survive as a Nation and go on and
even though you hate us, we would be there to help you in a crisis.

Joran and the Kalpoes join a lot of other people who have gotten away with murder.

Aruba bungled the investigation, perhaps on purpose? Who knows?
Money talks.

Now why don't you all donate some money to the Red Cross USA or the US Salvation Army and help us help the victims of Katrina instead of complaining about us.

Goodbye and best of luck to all of you.

11:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank You, from a fellow American.

11:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.thepoliticalteen.com/video/natdead.wmv

12:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GUILTY

DADDY HID THE BODY

12:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MANSUR: No, it was when they had let them free. And when he came back, they (INAUDIBLE) him in as a suspect. On the second day of that detention, he broke down completely. He cried, and he admitted to the police, he confessed to the police that, we buried Natalee.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he say where he'd buried Natalee?

MANSUR: He gave them indications. They put him in a police car. They brought him over here to the north of the Marriott Hotel, and he pointed towards some indistinct area by the fishermen's huts. Those are huts that the fishermen use them to guard their equipment, their nets, their knives, whatever they use in fishing.

12:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are taking care of our own people here in the badly battered South, and you anti-American haters should shut up and realize that we as a Nation care about your sorry asses and would, without hesitation come to your aid, if ever you needed us to defend you.

So go on hating us. We will survive as a Nation and go on and
even though you hate us, we would be there to help you in a crisis.


Wow! That crap reminds me so much of an abusive relationship. You know the person who says they care about you but wants to slap you around when bored, having a bad day, or if anything goes wrong. Only to tell you later how much they still care about you and want to protect you. I mean you beat on Aruba for months on end, threaten their economy over and over, badmouth them around the world for something that happens in every country especially your own, disparage sincere efforts made by its average citizens, then say how much you would care if someone else attacked them. As if your abuse wasn't enough! What right do you have to treat other people like that? Aruba doesn't want military defense from the US, it wants an honest and objective view of this case. That means dealing with the facts of the situation, not speculation, rumors, or emotional comments. Why would Aruba cover up anything? What evidence do you have against Joran or the Kalpoes? What evidence do you have against the Aruban government? What evidence do you have that there was even a crime committed? Asking for proof of your accusations is not too high a standard. Frankly, no court in the US would accept anything less than that standard. No Aruba does not hate America and is not hating on America or Americans. But the blatant hypocrisy and double standards in the commentary about and the media coverage on this case has been truly galling to many Arubans. The same Arubans who by the Holloway family's own words have been welcoming and supportive of them.


"Innocent until proven guilty" is not just an American mantra. It actually means something in Aruba, and I'm proud of that.

I wish the Van der Sloot and Kalpoe families well. I hope they have normal and happy lives after all they've been through. I hope for the absolute truth about Natalee's disappearance for the Holloway and Twitty families.

1:02 AM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

tante....poo poo tante, she couldn't catch her chicken in those old sawd off wooden shoes HEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEEEEEEE!!!! nite, don't worry tante, I'll be back to talk to you tomorrow...

1:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GUILTY

The Aruban law that was quoted: “when a person disappears, the last person known to be in company of the missing individual is responsible and can be charged with kidnapping

1:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GUILTY

On the second day of that detention, he broke down completely. He cried, and he admitted to the police, he confessed to the police that, "we buried Natalee."

1:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn’t Aruba have a charge/crime and penalty for “obstruction of justice”? There are a number of individuals who are guilty of this charge/crime: Joran Van Der Sloot (VDS), Paulus VDS, the Kalpoes and Freddy.

1:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a distinct lack of integrity in the American cable news coverage of this case. How many interviews did Mr.Mansur give that turned out to be completely wrong? Did anyone point that out to him on subsequent interviews? Did they ask him to provide credible evidence? Where was the investigative journalism that America is known for? Where was the proof, the documents, anything other than Mr.Mansur and other obviously poorly informed commentators flapping their lips? How many sources did Mr.Mansur claim to have who told him about confessions? Confessions that we found out never existed.

The news coverage was weak, but the tabloid coverage was spectacular.

I heard the opinions and misery of all the families affected, but the only hard facts I heard were the length of time someone could be held without charge in Aruba, and what day someone was arrested and released. That's the kind of investigative journalism I could get from a high school newspaper reporter.

Mr.Mansur and his undisclosed and completely wrong sources was to cable news what the National Enquirer is to the Sunday newspaper. Just what America needed, more tabloid in its news.

1:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Artikel 70 (article of law 70)

Het recht tot strafvordering vervalt door verjaring: The right to indict people will be limited as follows:

70.1. in twee jaren voor alle overtredingen; in 2 years for all misdemeanors

70.2. in zes jaren voor de misdrijven waarop geldboete, hechtenis of gevangenisstraf van niet meer dan drie jaren is gesteld ; in 6 years for all crimes for which a fine, incarceration or prison sentence of no more than 3 years is possible

70.3. in twaalf jaren voor de misdrijven waarop tijdelijke gevangenisstraf van meer dan drie jaren is gesteld; in 12 years for all crimes punishable with a prisonsentence of more than 3 years

70.4. in vijftien jaren voor de misdrijven waarop gevangenisstraf van meer dan tien jaren is gesteld; in 15 years for all crimes punishable with a prisonsentence of more than 10 years

70.5. in achttien jaren voor de misdrijven waarop levenslange gevangenisstraf is gesteld. in 18 years for all crimes that are punishable by life without parole

1:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"On June 10, Aruban Minister of Justice Rudy Croes told reporters that one of the three suspects had confessed to murdering Holloway and would lead them to the body.

1:57 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Freejoran - Joran's free; that's the only thing that counts.

Bey!

2:06 AM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

no he aint free, he is still s suspect, he goona need to watch his back in duuetsulusulu land. all them fat hairy old pigfarming dutch women wil be swarming all over him, tante goona ley on top him and he will be smothered the same way a big ole hippo smothered her baaby hippo. it aint goona be a pretty site tantetheyankee! HEHEHEHEHEHEEEEEEEE! oh and by the way, don't look for weld sex from hims eithr tanto, he got a medical condition that gives him small testics, and makes his feet to small, gives him a long giantistic body, a forehead you can show slide movies on with a projector, and littoo bitty hands, worse is this is a case of mild mongoloidism, no hope of gettern fistically better, the news said so, and also, his weinei is abnormally small, and the gross thing is I heard that it curls itself up backward toward his butticks. He is one messed up junglebunny, maybe tante should go over and YANKEE on it for awhile and see if it grows,,,,,or just gives up and falls off!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEE!!!

2:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEWSFLASH - everyone who was arrested in this case because of "SUSPICION" is still a suspect. Including the 2 black hotel guards who were arrested alledgely falsely. THEY ARE STILL AS MUCH A SUSPECT AS JORAN. Remember that. And stop quoting the damn media and Jossy from the Liar-io paper. The so called witness who accused the boys of being by the pond....was one of his family's employees!! How convenient!! Believe you me, if anyone confessed to a crime, there would be charges filed. There will be no case without a confession, or a body. So duhhhh obviously no confession right intelligent people?

BTW who is the biggest media whore liars? Didn't Beth and Jug repeatedly state that "wait til we tell the world what we know...it will shock you" They said that over and over. The first time the kalpoes were released they said they would reveal and the world would be SHOCKED. Then they said they would reveal their shocking secret on Sept 4. Obviously another lie to feed their media interest. Everyone is released now - if they had something to say they would have revealed it. SO THE WORLD IS SHOCKED ONLY AT BETH AND JUGS LIESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

3:58 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

LOL

4:29 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"70.5. in achttien jaren voor de misdrijven waarop levenslange gevangenisstraf is gesteld. in 18 years for all crimes that are punishable by life without parole"

NOT SO anymore, this law has, as of this past tuesday, changed ! Murder cases will never expire from NOW ON.
So who knows.... Joran may want to confess in 18 yrs time, with no poss to start a case against him.
Though he would need something to confess to...

Oops I forgot, he already confessed..... well according to the very reliable j.manure anyway.... but mr.shit why is he not in jai ? He even pointed out where they burried the body of Saint Nat'lee (well know from the Nat'lee does Caracas porn tapes).

What was it ? The body snatchers from Mars, any witnesses who say they saw the little green buggers eat Nat'lee or were they just her transport (ride) out of Aruba ??

8:56 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Tante Bet sometimes your unbelieveble good in SF! Youll write the story, I'll make the pics. It'll be a bestseller!

10:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They found her body... one of the 3 suspects led the police TO the body & ya`ll are still proclaiming these guys innocence? This is crazy

10:47 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Yes! Still!

10:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aruba is one FUCKED UP country... we all know it, why try to hide it!!! Covering the asses of 3 murderers just so your country doesn't look bad. I say FUCK that shit. Aruba can KISS MY ASS.

I was giving ya'll the benefit of the doubt until I heard the news they found her~ and WHY isn't it all over the news? BECAUSE THE fucker over there that runs the shithole of a country PROBABLY PAID people to keep there mouths shut!!!!!!

11:03 AM  
Anonymous river-52 said...

Well, then don't visit Aruba, nobody's waiting for you!

11:39 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Simply!

11:39 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Do you take on the same way in the Staes with all those thousands of teens raped and murdered?

11:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, here in America when we know who raped & killed someone THEY GET LIFE IN PRISON. Unlike over there, JUSTICE IS SERVED here

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What America are you talking about!!?? The America of Make Believe!!??

12:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What was it ? The body snatchers from Mars, any witnesses who say they saw the little green buggers eat Nat'lee or were they just her transport (ride) out of Aruba ??

No it was DADDY SLOOT FROM THE CESSPOOL

1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't know they found her body! When was this?!!

1:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

did they really find her?

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aruba cops think X
may mark the spot

Missing teen Natalee Holloway may have had unwanted attention from a porn 'recruiter.'

Police are said to be investigating whether a porn filmmaker might have had a hand in the May disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba.
According to the latest scenario in the baffling case, someone may have been trying to talk the pretty 18-year-old honor student into appearing in an X-rated flick.

Aruba cops and the FBI are said to be looking to the porn world for leads.

Paul Barresi, a former adult-film producer who's now a private eye, says he heard about the possible inquiry from "another 'recruiter' who scouts South America for porn talent."

"Natalee would have been a perfect target - a naive girl from a small town," Barresi tells us. "The recruiter might tell her he wanted her to pose for some modeling test shots.

"The cops want to know whether [anyone] gave her a date-rape drug like GHB. Only, apparently, the plan went awry. She died," he theorizes, "and the porn guy may have had to get rid of her body."

Barresi believes the recruiter is likely to be "someone who lives out of a suitcase." The National Enquirer reports in its new issue that cops suspect he lives in Aruba.

The Enquirer's Rebecca Mowling and Don Gentile also report that one witness claims he saw three men dumping a body in a landfill site.

Investigators in Aruba couldn't be reached for comment yesterday.

2:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe any of you would think Joran is innocent. If he was don't you think he would have sang like a canary at anything and everything he knows? Instead he has been "professionaly coached" by his father to remain silent and has now beat the system and been released. He has always known it was just a "matter of time" and now time has served him well. He's out and living his life once again but stop for a moment and wonder about Natalee. Is she dead, is she being held captive or has she been sold to a black market to settle his gambling debts? I would be willing to lay odds if she's not dead there are many other Aruban suspects who know the truth but it will never be learned. The shoddy way the whole case has been handled only proves there are more people involved than meets the eye!! I will never visit Aruba on a vacation or otherwise. As Americans we all need to boycott this country and stay away. Any one of us could be next as a part of a crime like Natalee Holloway's!!

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol

2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fox news had a special report. yes, they did find her body... several family friends confirmed that her father was in Aruba identifying the body. yes, they found her. yes, she is dead.. and yes, one of the 3 suspects led the police to her body.

3:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not see that anywhere on any of the news websites? where are you reading that?

3:44 PM  
Blogger Trish said...

Fox news is taking the report back because the dumbass Aruban government keeps giving statements and then taking them back. They're all hiding something. Learn more on this story at:

www.ThePoliticalTeen.Net/2005/06/11/Natalee-Holloway-Is-Dead

4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can anyone say "BULLSHIT"

4:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NUKE ARUBA!!!

4:26 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

hey!! where all the fags today?? HEHEHEHEHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! oh, that right, they in Holland!! kit kat ek hop dehoop!! wik loot ik hoot hoot dehoot!! HEHEHEHEEEEELOLLOL!!! crazy bastards!!LOL!!! kiss this (/) its your mammas crooked butt!!heheheheHEHEHEHEEEEEEE!!LOL!!!

4:42 PM  
Anonymous un-tante said...

tante, see you when you get home from church! you and river_69 better brush your teef after eatin all that jumbolia LOL!!

4:49 PM  
Blogger Trish said...

It's not bullshit, obviously you haven't seen the video. It's an actual Fox News report. There starting to get to the bottom of this and when these fuckers go down, I'm not gonna be on here saying "I told you so!"

5:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JORAN IS FREE AND IN HOLLAND...LIVE WITH IT!!!! HE IS INNOCENT, AND THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT!!!

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Justice is surely served when innocent people get the Death Penalty

6:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plea bargaining, parole, probation, 'good behavior'....what else can they think of to let criminals go free in the US?

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you have an actual link to the fox video? I would love to see it, I am just waiting for them boys to slip up and Joran to go down!! Un-Tante you are a riot!!! Where are you from? I had to go back through each one of these threads so I could read all your funny statements!!! You should be a comedian dude...!!!

6:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The link you posted earlier is from way back in July??? What the hell happened? How can they say they found the body she is dead then say oh no sorry? Did something new come out of this? How can they be released if they had a body and one of them led them to it? I don't get it?

6:26 PM  
Blogger Trish said...

www.ThePoliticalTeen.Net/2005/06/11/Natalee-Holloway-Is-Dead



The video is on that website! Once again.. it's an ACTUAL Fox Live report video... dated back in July or not, it's an actual video

6:27 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

UPDATE 7/1/05: The boys have been charged with murder, see this post.

UPDATE (347pm EST): It seems that FOX may be backing off their story (once again) that Natalee is dead.

Joran van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe, and Satish Kalpoe have been charged with murder for some time, however it was not brought out immediately to “protect” the family of Natalee Holloway.

UPDATE: All three boys have been charged with murder “ALL ALONG”. We are not quite sure how long “all along” is, but we’re taking it as that the Aruban authorities have known this for some 25 days.

ROTFL Hahahaha ROTFL Hahahaha ROTFL Hahahaha ROTFL Hahahaha ROTFL Hahahaha ROTFL Hahahaha

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

What is the street price for the average cheap porn flick in the usa ?

6:37 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

You Yanks are sooooo easy to fool, you'll believe anything :)

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never once said those allegations were 100% engraved in stone OR true... so Tante bet, you can stop trying to prove that you know everything, because it's clear as glass you don't. You're just a smart-mouthed (probably) 11 year old kid pretending to be a 51 year old, hiding behind the computer screen because you`re probably rejected out in the real world... so you have to come on here and act like you know everything to make yourself feel better about yourself. Go ahead and try to come back with something because it will just be ignored. I`m pretty sure 93% of people on this site (besides the supportors of murderers) are sick of you're ignorant comments and the whole NO crime NO body bullshit.

7:07 PM  
Blogger Trish said...

That comment was written by me, by the way.

7:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So how can they find a body, have someone admit to a crime, admit they killed and buried a girl, have 5 witnesses say they saw the girl being taken from the beach unwillingly, have other witnesses say they saw 3 guys bury a blond and yet nothing is being done? I was reading on the Aruba news sites this very same stuff you guys are saying only the American media is reporting? what's up with this cover up crap???? why isnt something being done? these boys are obviously out of control, who is gonna get hurt next? How many more are going to disapear before someone somewhere does something?

7:49 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"I`m pretty sure 93% of people on this site (besides the supportors of murderers) are sick of you're ignorant comments"

You must be on the wrong screen, on this site 93% supports Joran and fam. Here most people go for the FACTS, a novel concept I know to most but still, try it...

And don't forget I have been right from day one on ALL points :)
Bad losers you Yanks

Repeat after me:
NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante - I feel sorry for you. I really do. You are 51 years old and you are pathetic. Instead of having an intelligent, adult conversation amongst others to express your thoughts and opinion...you decide to belittle all others that don't agree with you. I feel sorry for you.
I am an American and a proud one to boot!! Nothing in life is perfect..yes the US has crime..big deal. What country doesn't! You can call me a Yank until your blue in the face. It doesn't effect me beause everyone has heard it from you so many times that it's OLD!! Can't you come up with something new??
Now tell me...how does it feel to have a highly intelligent 13 year old tell you that you are a poor excuse for a human being and a embarrasement to your country!!!

8:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chaperones.....anywhere?

8:38 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

:)

Sooooo much fun bashing Yanks...

http://rjames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602

Beth her 22 lies

And don't forget now keep repeating after me;
NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

8:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice manners for a 13-year-old...

8:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

score for the 13 yr old. Very poor come back Tante old girl, disapointing. Your getting pretty weak, maybe you should up the vitamins?

8:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello did you not read my post earlier or you just can't explain your way out of that one?

I will repeat:
So how can they find a body, have someone admit to a crime, admit they killed and buried a girl, have 5 witnesses say they saw the girl being taken from the beach unwillingly, have other witnesses say they saw 3 guys bury a blond and yet nothing is being done? I was reading on the Aruba news sites this very same stuff you guys are saying only the American media is reporting? what's up with this cover up crap???? why isnt something being done? these boys are obviously out of control, who is gonna get hurt next? How many more are going to disapear before someone somewhere does something?

come on, some of you seem to have all the answers? Not the yankee crap or the media blah blah blah either I want some actual facts to explain this.

8:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope you that the ignorant and vile expressions of hate do not represent the entire American population. You must have a very strange justice system, if you can condemn someone based on gossip and lies. Do you not have to have proof and evidence in your country? It sounds like Iraq, round up the 'suspects' and punish them, after you have tortured them of course. How closely were the school mates and chaperones questioned? I believe some were back in the U.S. the following day. Whose DNA was on the toothbrush, it wasn't Jorans? How did it get there? Just a thought...

10:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is a circus of opinions right here. pretty funny too. we got all these stupid know it alls that live all the way across the sea claiming they know what happened, pointing fingers and judging others .. while in reality they don't know SH!T .. yes, i said shit

you americans need to keep an eye on your own country and help yourselves. stop invading other places. iraq supposedly had WMD's, where were they again ? oh right. i was disgusted with the media coming over here working without permits actually and spewing all this crap on your tv.

young miss Holloway, a straight A student. no one would even dare to think otherwise, right ? obviously no one was around to see all they were doing in Aruba on this trip. How much drinking, smoking, the skinny dipping late at night. no one points the finger at the chaperones. oh no! they're not responsible! they had a job to do to keep an eye out .. but didn't! talk about covering up stuff, huh? and i'm just getting started!

V

12:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It really was hypocritical to hear Beth on Foxnews talking trash about VDS parents. How the "son and father" were in casinos together or that Anita didn't know where her son was at night blah blah blah. Beth didn't know where her daughter was at any time for the entire 4 day trip in another country. Beth never called once to check up on her. Beth could have chosen to even CHAPERONE with the school. Paulus VDS even chaperoned Joran to Holland, the country he was from and where he had relatives and friends living there. And Natalle's family allowed her to travel to a foreign country unescorted...where she knew NOONE. The blame starts at home people.

12:48 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Sorry, little bit late, but sometimes I sleep:

".....No, here in America when we know who raped & killed someone THEY GET LIFE IN PRISON. Unlike over there, JUSTICE IS SERVED here....."

Indeed, if guilty (proven)! How about the people who have been executed while afterwards they were not guilty?

2:47 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

"......And Natalle's family allowed her to travel to a foreign country unescorted...where she knew NOONE. The blame starts at home people...."

If overyone thinks the same way, life would be beautifull!

5:43 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"So how can they find a body, have someone admit to a crime, admit they killed and buried a girl, have 5 witnesses say they saw the girl being taken from the beach unwillingly, have other witnesses say they saw 3 guys bury a blond and yet nothing is being done?"

You want an answer to this ?
OK, simpel, NONE of it is true, NONE of it is FACT, it is all thought up by Jossey Manure and repeated on TV by the Gretchens of this world.

These are the FACTS:
NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

8:34 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

".........you americans need to keep an eye on your own country and help yourselves. stop invading other places. iraq supposedly had WMD's, where were they again ? oh right. i was disgusted with the media coming over here working without permits actually and spewing all this crap on your tv..."

As I said several times in other words!

8:57 AM  
Anonymous Marsha said...

river_52 said...

Life is what you make it. this whole thing with Natalee missing has nothing to do with americans or invading iraq. A mother is looking for her daughter. Its about kinship if you have a family you will understand. If not then you need our understanding. Its a beautiful day enjoy it and smell the roses

10:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can understand a mother looking for her daughter, but Beth took it to a whole new level. She wanted Aruba to change their laws to suit her. Doesn't work that way. No matter where you go in the world, once you leave the U.S. you fall under whatever country's laws your under. That is just scratching the surface. The media circus that Beth and her family created was sickening. To spread rumors and speculation as fact to keep the story in the news was a disgrace. We still to this date have not a single statement regarding evidence from the prosecution or the Police investigating the case. Every bit of media concerning this case is at best speculation.

11:11 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"this whole thing with Natalee missing has nothing to do with americans or invading iraq"

NO, there is a coorelation...
It is the believeablity of Yanks, Yanks in gereral and Yanks like your president specifically :)

There were no wmd...

There is no confession of Jaran
There is no quote that something bad happened to het
There is no pointing out where we hid the body

there is only this (FACTS);
NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

12:35 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

hmmm, correlation ?
Doesn't matter 99,99% of you Yanks doesn't know what the word means anyway :)

12:36 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Dear Marsha:

Something about myself:

3 years ago my youngest son was hyjacked, robbed and almost killed near the Central Station in Rotterdam by some guys who were known by the police as extremely dangerous. A moment of abcense by these guys made that my son and his girlfriend could escape (leaving all their belongings behind). Off all people I should be the one to see Joran hang.

For you to know, that I can surely understand the grieve of the Holloways, but, al these filth, hate and trash of a group of narrow-minded imb...... made me join this blogg. Al against (it seems) one boy, of whome never has been proven he raped and murdered Natalee.

That's why I defend this boy, that's why I seek confrontation with this boy and his family. What would you think happen if he accidently fell in their hands (I dare not think about it)!!! Just because he has been the last person seen with Natalee (one says).

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!

12:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth was on inside edition (e-shit-on) last night, much to my dismay. Anyhooo now she is blaming prosecutors for taking advantage of hurricane katrina and american people, to let the boys go at that convenient time when the media was away!!!!!! Hmmmmm I thought that Sept 4 date was set long before the weather forecasts. I also didn't know that the trial results must be dependant on the American media's whereabouts!!!!!!!

BLAME YOURSELF FIRST for letting your 18 year old female daughter go unescorted to a foreign country for 4 days. You didn't know where she was the entire 4 days, you never called her. Dave didn't want her to go but you didn't listen to her. God forbid the media actuallly report serious issues instead of your media lies. God forbid the news is reporting instead the tragedy of thousands of people who lost their homes and lives in NO and other surrounding places. God forbid the media is being useful for once and not at your beckon call. Quit your bitching lady.....you had F16s and search teams and everything at your disposal....more than any other american of a missing child.

1:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey junglemonkey dutchens!! :p LOL!!

2:42 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"now she is blaming prosecutors for taking advantage of hurricane katrina and american people"

Next I think Beth will sue Bush, as he was to blame, he is a racist who used Katrina to hit a poor area in the USA, kill all the blacks and now they TV camara's are not on Bethe and so Joran is let free, who we all know cut Nat'lee in little pieces, salted her and even confessed to the sexual assault and burrial etc. Bla, bla, bla etc, bla, bla, bla.

When is some-one around her going to tell her that enough is enough.... I hope one day she will show up here, so she can find out what it is not to get any attention and be in jail the moment she comes within a 100 fmeters of Joran or any other Van Der Sloot.

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

4:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bush promised Beth he's going to use all resources to track down and smoke Katrina outta the caves. He's going to catch that evil doer which diverted attention away from Queen Beth which took advantage of the american people's catastrophe in order to let the boys go free from jail (of course not because there was no evidence to hold them further or Sept 4 date set much in advance) and when the media wasn't around. How dare they? Beth of course isn't capitalising on the catastrophe itself to use for her own self proclaiming media tour. Buy tickets now or else Jug & Beth will track you down and find you...trash your family and friends and call a JIHAD on your country.

5:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody should arrest Beth for misusing funds or something...would that not be fraud? That woman now has the AUDACITY tonight to be having a benefit concert NOT FOR KATRINA VICTIMS BUT FOR HERSELF- in the name of God of course (though her church) in order to "help offset expenses incurred by the family as they continue the search for Natalee". EVERYONE ELSE IS HAVING BENEFITS TO HELP THE VICTIMS OF KATRINA...those who have lost everything in their lives. NEWSFLATH BETH - there are countless missing people in New Orleans - countless daughters, sons, husbands, wives, mothers, siblings, friends, coworkers etc. Not only lives lost but everything everyone owned...they are left with NOTHING. And Beth has the audacity to have benefits for herself when so many are in need, and so many missing people even in her home state...NEED $ and help.

Beth continues to publicly claim her daughter was murdered by Joran and friends, so why is she using her daughter's name to get more free money to help look for someone she claims is dead? BTW she did not pay for the search teams, the dutch tax payer's money paid for the F16s etc. Where is the $1.5 million dollars plus other donations the public isnt' aware of...the auction by Courtney Cox etc. Someone call the IRS on that family!!!!!! BENEFIT FOR HERSeLF AND NOT KATRINA VICTIMS !!!!!!! UN F-EN BELIEVEABLE!!

8:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't many arubans donate $ also? Next time Beth is in aruba could she be arrested under high "suspicion of misappropriating funds"? Maybe they can give her joran's or deepak's cell since it's available now!

8:11 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

:)

Now that would be the day......

8:56 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

From who's that song again?

"That'll be the day, that you make me cry...!"

2:13 AM  

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