Thursday, September 01, 2005

Joran Van Der Sloot To Be Freed
A judge on Thursday ordered the release of a Dutch teenager who has been jailed for nearly three months in the disappearance of an Alabama honors student and said he would be freed this weekend, the youth’s father and attorney said. (AP)


Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is horrible!

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This SOB & his father have greased the palms of whoever they need to "exonerate" Joran, "money talks & bullsh.t walks" Now he's leaving one of his Kalpoe "brothers" holding the bag.
Sick, arrogant & spoiled little rich limitations, no morals & certainly no RESPECT for anything. Maybe someone should come forth with the goods on Paulus! I'm sure there are some skeletons there !!!!!!!

10:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you folks ever heard of Innocent until proven guilty?

10:47 PM  
Anonymous DG said...

I have, but I would love to hear someone explain to me why it is that these three boys gave matching false statements to authorities after they knew Natalee was missing. Is that the act of innocent people?

Think of it. You hook up with a girl on the beach, then leave her by herself, and the next morning she is gone. To me, you immediately tell the police everything so they can find her as quickly as possible. But no, they lied to the cops, because they were afraid that the truth might make them look guilty. What, and LYING doesn't?

Oh, and by the way, does anyone seriously believe that after playing tonsil hockey on the beach (or more), that Nat just wanted to be left alone there? In the middle of the night? With a plane to catch in the morning? This kid's whole argument does not pass the smell test.

I think Joran wanted to have sex with Natalee, and she said no, and he raped her, and then, realizing the gravity of what he had done, killed her, then enlisted the aid of his friends to help dispose of the body.

Just an opinion.

11:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still believe that Natalie is alive on another island and had been sold for slavery.

12:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey anita van der sloot everybody knows the relationship between your husband and the police chief jan van der strateen, even your son joran is friend with the son of this police chief, gilliam van der strateen,it is just a matter of time that all that net of corruption will go down, and your family will pay for everything. i don't know how can you look up to god and pray that your son it is going to be free, i am sure that the guilt that you, your husband and your son is carrying sooner or later will be so overwellming that all of you will crack i m sure that you too know something about the case that you are not telling, but dont worry life is tricky when it comes to pay every bad thing that we do.

12:15 AM  

Enough is enough!
The sustained cackling of NANCY GRACE & her band of media grubbers have so contributed to the poisoning of this well.
The evidence apparently is ZERO with respect to JORAN, regardless of what brew the US Media wishes to infuse into the situation.
JORAN should have been released weeks ago.
Perhaps if Jose Mansur, Helen Leuez, Paul Reynolds and Nancy Grace were locked away in lieu of JORAN, we'd get far better leads and direction in this matter.

12:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you want to commit a crime go to aruba or southern california it seems that authorities there are so stupid that the crime actually have to be commited in front of them so they can prosecuted, first michael jackson and know joran in aruba

12:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

because there is no evindence doesn't mean he is not guilty, it seems that if you have daddy paul and old time van der sloot family friend chief police jan van der strateen nothing can go wrong, right? wrong!!!!! sooner or later the truth will be found and all that corruption that is surrounding that case will crack.

12:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that van der sloot family is so prepotent that they even asked the jail warden maduro to give joran " special treatment". but they didn't get it.

12:47 AM  
Anonymous Noelle said...

woo hoo.


Where's Tante?!

1:10 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

At last!

1:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In spite of all the theories and speculation, based on made up "facts", apparently the judge does not believe there is enough evidence to hold him.

My guess is the only reason he has been held so long is because they wanted to 1) protect him, 2) try to interrogate as much as possible while their investigation continue to determine if more evidence could be obtained, and 3) because the Twitty's insisted from the day he arrived that he was guilty, in spite of having no evidence to claim this. I think it is high time he is released if there is not strong evidence to hold him. If they cannot even continue to hold him on suspicion, then they obviously don't have enough to actually charge him. I never made any sense that he would killed her - why would he? It was illogical. Too much made up tales have been put out about this whole case, when only the Aruba PI and the judge actually have the known facts of this case.

All this stuff in the press is guesses, and what people think - and that is presented as fact. How would you feel if this was someone close to you that was treated this way? What has happened her is there are two victims - Natalee and Joran.

1:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like the Dutch Boy Rapist's dad said, No Body No Case.

Van Straaten, Van der Sloot, Dutch rapists with unattractive mothers and crooked fathers.

2:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe now we can all forget about this shit island. greta van susteran, fox news, msnbc, will now fixate on new orleans for the next 6 months.

on a side not it's terrible the way joran's summer has been!

2:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante Bet, Are you Anita Van Der Sloot? Surely we know mother dearest has been on this blog.

3:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Van der sloot's should thank god for Hurricane Katrina. It killed thousands but saved their asses! Media are busy doing something else. This would never have happened

3:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this creep van der "slime" goes free at least he's life and he's family life will be misserable bc everytime he goes to buy something or he goes to the movies etc... people will wonder maybe he really did it and he will always be mark.

5:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

uncover the relationship between the van der strateen family and the van der sloot family!!!!!!!.

5:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

did you know that jan van der strateen worked directly for paul van der sloot in the mid 90th? and they have been friend for a lot of years.

5:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i m sure that joran prey and drug women bc he can't get one by himself i bet he have a small penis....

5:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all that crying is bullshit, he proclaims to be "gansta" and "pimp" walking around with a crew of little rich kids that think they are "dangerous", they are just a buch of cry babies that at the first problem they go and cry to mommy and daddy.

5:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

even if he goes free, he will always be a suspect, and that will ruin his life................

i m very glad

5:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the story about droping off natalee at the holiday inn was cooked even before people knew she was missing, big red flag. why would he do that if he really didn't do anithing, and it was so specific that it is really suspicius,( that she hit her head, that she said she was okey can can walk by herself, and that se met with to security guys), it is very clear that he knows something.

6:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very Happy the boy is going home...Justice is being served! There's no evidence to keep him any longer.

7:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i knew he would be released :)

8:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way To Go!!! I am sooo happy for Jordan and his family!!!! The two boys need to be next.

As an american I will not except any other ruling in this case.

We now need Acadamey Awards for News Media.

What comes around goes around. Twitt's/Holloways you better hope it stops at 10%!

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so happy for Anita and I hope they finally investigate the MB kids especially the Twitty Twins. The Twitts connention with big bad mafia Jossy are just too scary.

9:46 AM  
Anonymous anfaan said...

I have read on the news that someone said that Natalee fell down and hit her head----was it possible that she was with Joran when that happened and he got scared and left because he thought that she was dead? Is it possible that she lost her memory and wandered off...... Either way i do believe that Joran is innocent---I just hope that they find the person who "has" her---Or I hope that she gets her memory back and return home......

9:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The crooked Dutch think nothing of locking up the two black security guards on Joran's lies.

It's a racist, drug-dealing, hedonistic society. The van der Sloot family, all of them, deserve our scorn.

Poor Natalee.

10:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for your post JACK IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!
I agree with you wholeheartely!
My sentiments exactly.
North Carolina

10:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree, that lie about the holiday inn was so elaborated, that when people knew it was a lie it is more than ovius that he knows something, if he have said in the begining that he was drop off at the beach and that he left her alone maybe people would not be that suspicius, but that well elaborated lied only proof that either did something to her or know what happend. that part of aruba that she was suppose left alone, at that time there is not too much people there so if she was there during the night, she will more than likely be there at the morning, so it ovius that the theory that somebody esle drag her is very unlikely, anyways i think that she was never there, i think that she was taken to joran's apartment, and thats why i m sure his daddy asked for some days to clean everiything up there.

10:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if they were so innocent why daddy van der sloot at least didn't say "hey you know what, we will help you find her" but no, what he did was telling joran not to say anithing, hiring lawyers,not cooperating, that only shows that he have no remorse for her,and i dont care how well trained jude you are you just dont say "no body,no case" for no reason, he knows that if that body is never found joran cant be charge.

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the only reason bc there is no evidence in this crime is bc joran have a dad in the legal system, and a family friend that is a chief police. those ten days were more than enough to cover everything up, do you really believe that those lack of competence police of aruba were wise enough to follow them and wire them? please... they only thing that they do all day is take a tan and drinking margaritas all day, i think that a mall security is more intelligent than those stupid police of aruba.

10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well the little murdering rapist beats the raps! Now let's go down to Aruba and take him out!! If someone does kill him, the Aruban law enforcement is obviously so stupid, they wouldn't catch the person who did it!!

10:49 AM  
Blogger D said...

I like a good debate! Honestly do! For days, weeks and months we all have been coming up with reasons why the Joran and the K brothers lied, their stories didnt seem to match up... for weeks, there have been thousands of blogs and discussions, trying to solve the mystery and for weeks, all of these blogs and all of the questioning and searching have turned up nothing. There are people who believe Joran and his friends are innocent, there are people who already convicted them before they knew anything about the case.
I think they were not truthful about what really happen that night, but I also think that they didnt kill her and dump her body somewhere. I totally think it was an accidental drowning and I dont even think that Joran, Satish, Deepak or Freddie for that matter were there to see it. I think the MB students know a lot more then they are syaing because they dont want to be caught by there parents! Caught doing XTC and drinking their butts off!

But whatever it might be, I dont think we are going to learn any time soon. Maybe in a couple of years we watch "cold case" or a TV series and maybe then we get some inside and maybe then we'll find out what truly happened that night.

I feel bad for the Twitty / Hollway family but I also think that its time to move on, learn to live with this tragedy and try to find piece and for Beth.. go back home and be a mother to the son she still has.

10:52 AM  
Blogger D said...

And comments like "take him out" really F%$ING scare the shot out of me! What the hell is wrong with people!

You know - I get very passionate about someone speaking like that! Its personalities like that who run a mock in Luisiana right now, shooting their sister for a bag of ice!

10:57 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Hmmm I was the first one to post here as I read the news elsewhere before it was mentioned as a subject here.
Anyway I can repeat it :)


'k zeg 't 'k wist het :)

I tell you I knew :)


I am very pleased that I was able to see where this was going from the beginning.
Not so difficult but still...

1. No evidence, now THAT always does well when one is innocent but stands accused.

2. Tell the true story as it is.
(J. is forgiven to try and pass off a fib at first. Quite normal for a scared 17 yr old when falsely accused to panic and say: I dunno, wasn't me. I challenge everyone with a child to say they have never heard this...!!!)

3. Read NOT what Beth, Jug (the liar) the media in the form of; Gretchen, Geraldo, Jossey Manure etc. are trying to shove down your gluttonous throats, but read what Joran said to his mother on day 1.
Read what facts are the few that were made known, deduct logically.

4. Dare to think outside the box/envelope. Do not follow like lemmings and go down the ravine with them.

5. Don't get caught in your own fantasy, the mind f*ck that said on first impulse: "He must be guilty because he saw her last". Have an open mind.

6. Think how you would be accused....the lynch mob ready with their ropes. Would you like it ? Would you want the 'ratings' of Fox news to be the indicator of the level of proof needed ?

7. Convict the guilty, sounds simple but think of it as a novelty. That means: do away with your Jury system :) Our system has professionals making the decisions, not public opinion.
They look at the evidence only, not to populist remarks like: "If it doesn't fit you must acquit".
8. Pfffft I could go on for hours .... If you'all still don't get it, ask me and I will :-)

I am also happy to see that the collective intelligence is here to post :)
Seems you are not all in NO for some looting.

OT: Are the Yanks here not ashamed that 5 days after.... your country is still looking like a third world country ?
(the same people asked 'action' in the NH case within 48 hrs.... mind you.)

So to all who didn't agree with me about the Sept 4th release of Joran: fine, you may, you may look stupid whenever you want, now eat your hats !!!

have a nice day :)

11:22 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Read what the facts are

11:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh yeeeahhh, I'm glad the little cracker is gonna be 'out of the watchful eyes of the poopice' now there is nowhere for him to hide. hallejewee, I'm taking you to a little partee.

11:44 AM  
Anonymous dg said...

"There is no evidence against Joran, so he must be innocent." But there's no body! There's no evidence against ANYONE! Does that mean that no crime occurred?

It ought to be very plain by this point that Nat is, unfortunately, dead. Walking around with amnesia? Sold into slavery? Please.

"Maybe she drowned." Yeah, sure, she went for a swim in the middle of the night by herself. I'm still waiting for a reasonable alternative explanation that fits the facts. I believe the ONLY reason they have to let that scumbag vandersloot loose is because they have no body, and no one has confessed.

But then again, the Kalpoes are still being held. Could it be that vandersloot rolled over on his "friends" and is pinning the whole thing on them? Or is he telling the truth?

Again, there appears to be no physical evidence in this case: If the Kalpoes are being held,it's probably on eyewitness testimony. Who else could that testimony be from besides Joran? Who else could have witnessed Nat's rape and murder?

I say it's Joran's testimony that has sprung him from prison. And if that is the case, he either A) Is lying to cover up his own crime, or B) Deliberately withheld evidence from the authorities for 3 months to protect his friends, while Nat's family suffered, waiting for closure.

Either way, this 18-year-old wannabe gangsta is SLIME. Shame on anyone who defends him.

11:45 AM  
Blogger D said...

You guys - come on now - cant anybody in this world be objective anymore? Talk about bringing out the worst in people!

11:53 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"There is no evidence against Joran, so he must be innocent." But there's no body! There's no evidence against ANYONE! Does that mean that no crime occurred?

a. Joran like any other person in the world does not have to prove taht he is innocent. (Even Yanks have the slogan: Innocent untill proven guilty)
b. As is stands yes, there is no proof of a crime.... what crime ?

It ought to be very plain by this point that Nat is, unfortunately, dead.
If you know something, call the prosecutor !

...and no one has confessed.
you mean you want someone (Joran) to confess even though he is innocent ? What would that help ??

Or is he telling the truth?
looking at the known facts, conversations etc he most prob is....

Who else could have witnessed Nat's rape and murder?
What rape ? what murder ?? Again if you know something call the police... now !!

DG you make it sound like you are the one who committed a crime, you seem to want to deflect any attion away from you to Joran & Co.
Now that is suspicious also you seem to know something about (a)rape & murder etc.
Just turn yourself in and confess !!

12:00 PM  
Anonymous dg said...

And while I am on a roll, I also want to say that the only people who look stupid are the ones who blindly say that Joran is innocent, in the face of some pretty bad-looking circumstances. That includes his parents, who have the harried look of people who have lost control of their own house.

Joran is a "party boy" who comes and goes as he pleases, drinks, smokes, and has sex, and then brags about it. His 15-year-old brother doesn't seem far behind. Poor old mom and dad appear to have handed over the keys to the house to them. "Do it once more, and you're really in trouble." Yeah, right.

Funny Tante mentioned the OJ trial. It's a shame Joran won't be going to Florida for school; he and OJ could have gotten together and cried about how the media ruined their lives. Of course, they would be doing so at poolside over Mai Tais, because they are both filthy rich. Funny how life works, isn't it?

Finally, I don't speak for everyone, but I will say that I don't give a crap what the media says. The media said that George Bush was a great leader after 9/11. ALL of the media said this. I for one, still said that Bush was a moron, and at this point, about 60% of the population now appears to agree with me. Media my ass.

I think Joran is guilty because I know that he has NO alibi, or a shaky one at best, and he LIED to authorities. "All 17-year-old's lie". Yeah, they lie about sneaking a cigarette or cutting class. They might even lie to cops the first 2 or 3 times they are asked. But anyone who lies after days or weeks of questioning, AFTER retaining a lawyer, has got something to hide! As they said in Die Hard, wake up and smell what you're shoveling!

12:02 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

No proof needed right ?

12:02 PM  
Anonymous dg said...

Let me make sure I understand.

Anyone who thinks Natalee is dead is guilty of her murder? Exactly how much of that Kool-Aid did you drink, Tante?

Deepak and Satish are now being held for suspicion of involvement in Nat's RAPE and MURDER. I guess the cops are guilty too, right?!

A high school honor student disappears in a foreign country the day before she is supposed to fly home. She has no history of home problems and has never run away. She was planning on going to college in the fall. No one's seen hide nor hair of her in 3 months. Tell me: Where do YOU think she went? Do you seriously think she's alive? I suppose you thought Chandra Levy was alive too, right?

12:09 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...


WOW must be guilty of murder all murderers smoke that is a well known fact !!

Show me one picture where Joran smokes ??
I haven't seen any....

"because they are both filthy rich."
I haven't seen anything like rich, I think the vd Sloots just get by on their incomes...

"I think Joran is guilty because I know that he has NO alibi, or a shaky one at best, and he LIED to authorities. "All 17-year-old's lie". Yeah, they lie about sneaking a cigarette or cutting class. They might even lie to cops the first 2 or 3 times they are asked. But anyone who lies after days or weeks of questioning, AFTER retaining a lawyer, has got something to hide!"

*Lots of people have no alibi...
*You lied about smaoking ? you are a murderer and rapist !
*Where do you get the nonsense that Joran lied after weeks of questioning ?? Show me !

dg you are obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer.... :(

12:11 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

...and has never run away.

Don't spread lies now.... it has been reported that she did run away from the mother from hell (Beth) to her father.... !!
This time she ran off with Mr. Pink of Pinkey productions and she is making porn flicks in venezuela :)
That is my theory, just as valid as yours !
No, actually more likely (no body, history of running away etc.)

12:14 PM  
Anonymous dg said...

You didn't comment on the drinking and the sex, so I guess I was right about that...

Joran LIED to investigators. Did you forget? His own family admits it. His mother explained that he only did it because he was scared. It was days or weeks before he changed his story. I don't know the exact day he changed it, but I can tell you that when I was 17, I would have been so scared that I would have told the whole truth immediately.

I'm on my way out now, but one other thing: Lots of people have no alibi, but most of them don't admit to being with Natalee right before she disappeared, and they also don't make cryptic comments about her hitting her head.

Tante, just curious as to what you think the Kalpoe's involvement is. I'll check back later...

12:19 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

The carpool bro's ? Now idea, not interested....

But even if Joran lied, does that make him a murderer ?
And if you think so, why ? Where is the logic...
Tell me why you would want a cinviction without evidence & proof.... while Joran keeps saying he is innocent (from day 1).

12:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes coz the 'carpool' brothers are not dutch elites. they can rot in jail. corrupt island of aruba will soon suffer for this. i gurantee you. JORAN IS A MARKED MAN. JORAN HAS TO WATCH OUT 24/7

12:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante Bet is Anita Van Der Sloot

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tante you know darn well - no body does not mean no crime. we all know he lied. this family has no conscious but trust me what goes around will come around. karma is a bitch!

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of you people who are happy that Joran is being released make me sick! He knows exactly what happened to Natalee and he is going to get away with it because of his daddy! Which that also makes me sick.
Well all I can hope is when he gets released that somone will beat the shit out of his so bad that he'll be in the hospital for a few months....I hope they figure out what happened soon and I hope he burns in hell for whatever he did to her. Because you don't just walk around with that smart ass grin like he does like he just got away with something if you're innocent(which we all know he's not). So I hope he gets what is coming, because what goes around comes around only it's a lot worse.

1:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Joran does get away with what he did all I have to say is that he better not ever come to the United States, because he is by far a marked man, and everyone here knows what he is all about. The USA does not like little killers who get away with things because of money and who their family has ties with.

1:05 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Tell me all of you ...
Why is it so difficult to believe some-one else ?

a. I am not Jorans mother (Anita), but Tante Bet, Rotterdam Holland (that is part of the Netherlands)

b. Saying a crime has been committed is like religion, no proof, no evidence, just belief.
This is why religion and the law and the government are separate entities. And lets keep it that way.

Belief in gnomes, if you like, I don't care. I am an atheist, who believes the root of all evil is religion...

The law only looks at facts, remember ? The thing that you would all be screaming for the very moment you are accused of anything !!!!

1:07 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Is that the best of your mental capabilities ? To make threats..... remember you may be locked up for that :)

1:08 PM  
Blogger IC said...

Its too bad that in America people don't believe in innocent until proven guilty any more. It makes me ashamed to be an American. They have no physical evidence on Joran, nor do they have any physical evidence that any crime has been committed. He should have never been held (maybe 24 hours for questioning). I think its time to turn the tables and start taking a closer look at Jossy Mansur, Beth and Jug Twitty and company and the MB "girls". These people know more than they are telling, what are they covering up ?

1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People all of you have to rember he is innocent until proven guilty, The for the people posting threats. It is illegal and you can be charged for it.

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just thought I would share this post from

Comment by From Aruba — September 2, 2005 @ 2:02 pm
Oh my goodness! Please let me apologize for the ignorant comments made by those of my country such as Mad or Tante. There is no excuse for such behavior. Most of the Dutch feel quite the contrary. We do support Nat her family and America in this case. And yes, I do think that those who are guilty should be punished to the full extent of the law. I do hope that now that they’ve released Joran that he’ll slip up and say something that will cause him and whoever else is responsible to be convicted and punished for this haneous act. And like many of you I do believe that he and the Kalpoe brothers and Paul are all probably guilty. They just look too suspicious and have lied way too much. And the witness that said he saw them all at the dump together had no reason to lie or make up that story so I for one do believe him. I don’t know why Paul’s wife doesn’t divorce him, I see him out with a different woman every night that I see him. But please don’t judge all of us by the few stupid people on here that make such comments. I can see that you all have your share of that to. That Steve charachter’s post are really annoying, offensive, and silly. We all need to just ignore all these ignorant folks and maybe they’ll go somewhere else. I do enjoy reading everyone’s different views on this case and respect everyone’s right to express them, although people that make insulting and ignorant comments such as Mad or Steve are uncalled for. And what all Mad accused you Americans of doing, such as all of the luxury stuff and whatever else he has said, we are guilty of doing all the same things. Bottom line is that none of us are perfect so people like Mad should not be complaining and pointing fingers. Well, the best of luck to Natalee’s family. My hopes and prayer go out to you.

2:22 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Hey, two more people who can think :)

2:25 PM  
Blogger bLEh said...


2:32 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Last post was not for 11:22 but the 2 posts before that :)

Most of the Dutch feel quite the contrary.

Not so ! read here:
99,9% do not think Joran has anything to do with the case. (i Know it should be forbidden to follow just the facts, but cannot help people being reasonable).

Bottom line is that none of us are perfect so people like Mad should not be complaining and pointing fingers.

You must be a cheap Aruban Yankee whore, the reason they flock the Island... finger poitning ??
What the F*ck are you doing ... finger pointing !!

2:38 PM  
Anonymous me said...

tante is a voodoo practicing smokie!! see her wun see her wun!!

2:45 PM  
Anonymous me said...

she flys around in an old weather bolloon scaring the crap out of little children

2:47 PM  
Anonymous simon said...

tante was born during a fecus dump

2:49 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

I always love the ability of you Yanks to show off your "high moral fibre" :)

3:03 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Shit I forget to ask.... can I use your quotes for my next book "Yankee Quotes, a good laugh"
Not really sure about the title, but something along those lines....

3:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

are you for real?

3:06 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

As real as they come :)

Just pinched myself: Yes, I am real..... also "cogito ergo sum".
I think therfore I am -Descartes-

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tante, do you have a job?

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope someone shits in your mouth

3:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I always love the ability of you Yanks to show off your "high moral fibre" :) "

We are NO LOWER than you girl!


Just playing the game that YOU started.. actually the game that Joran started... LOL!

3:43 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Just read what the Yanks post :)

4:24 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

PS I am having soooo much fun today, bashing a few Yanks, drinking some champagne to celebrate Jorans release tomorrow.
(don't forget the teenies now)

Reading all your posts, seeing how frustrated the little Yankee pricks are getting, hahaha

Pls continue, my book needs ~23 more pages !

4:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are very easily entertained! LOL

This is not personal for me.. just a case to debate, so please do not have any fun at my expense.

But girl.. you are ONE SICK PUPPY,
"(don't forget the teenies now)"

What makes you think that it is okay to say things like that? You really do need to go and see a shrink!


~Proud Yank

4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of you who think Joran is innocent that is fine everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but I do not believe all his bullshit lies for a minute. You're telling me a teenage boy is alone with a girl(a drunk girl at that) on a beach it just going to leave without trying to take advantage of her? I really don't think so. I don't care what he says I think a little more happened then he is letting on. It's only a matter of time before the truth comes out. And I really hope whoever did it go insane from the guilt, because you have tobe a pretty messed up person to even do something like that to someone, and their family. And if something did happen that was an accident then why not just come forward and tell, if he didn't do it on purpose then why not just tell so her family can have some form of closure.

5:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two other suspects(Kalpoe brothers)will be released Saturday 3/2005, along with Van de sloot. Ruled today

5:13 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"(don't forget the teenies now)"

I say that as a 'thank you note' for all the nice postings all the Yankee friends have made the past 75 days :)

Have a nice day !

5:13 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

WOW they (the prosecution) must have mountains of proof & evidence, not ? NOT !

5:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

prosecution was helping Joran, dont you get it?

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is innocent til proven guilty...period. The way the media and the family has persecuted and attacked publicly the VanderSloot family, is absolutely shameful and disgusting. The "allegations" and "rumours" reported as fact by the media ...must be considered when strangers and outsiders base opinions and biases on this tragic case w/ tales told by the media. The VDS are victims too and should be given respect, privacy, love, support and prayers too. There is no proof that Natalee is alive or not, and let's continue to pray for her safe return. Let's pray for ALL families involved. Although my heart aches for the Holloway family, my heart is big enough to also smile for the VDS family's joy of having Joran home. BTW- Canadians do not judge and are not biased or brainwashed by the media!! Judge not lest ye be judged.

7:39 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Hear, hear

& for " prosecution was helping Joran, dont you get it?"
Did I get it wrong ? Thought prosecution were the other guys... what the heck, so defence wanted him IN and prosecution helped him OUT of jail ??

8:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

everybody knows that the vds family is connected in the legal system and that aruba is really fast when it comes to cover up crimes and missing people, bc that is very bad for tourism, im tired of people saying that aruba is heaven and that nothing happend there, why dont you tell that to women that get drug and rape there by locals that think that bc they are going back where they came from nothing is going to happend to them.

12:28 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"why dont you tell that to women that get drug and rape there by locals that think that bc they are going back where they came from nothing is going to happend to them."

Show me the proof for this staement !
Or do you just want it to be so ?
Wishful thinking ??
Stay away !!!

8:13 AM  
Anonymous A Mom in Illinois said...

I've just been reading some various Riehl blogs and thought I'd add my comments here.

Even though they've been released, it gives me great comfort in knowing that the these three boys (Joran, Deepak and Satish), their families and their acquaintances involved with the conspiracy and cover-up of this crime on Natalee will now have to deal with the whole world's reaction to their behavior. Thanks to Beth (Natalee's Mom) and the news media, they now will be punished for the rest of their lives, even if they are not convicted.

These three boys are involved in drugs, date-rape, conspiracy and a cover-up of a crime. The whole world knows that. The world knows who they are and how they are allowed to live their lives on Aruba. Their future acquaintances, job prospects, etc., are going to be affected for the rest of their lives. What level-headed girl would want to be in the company of these three boys?

Paul van der Sloot's infamous words "no body; no crime" are well-known throughout the world. His career is shot. Who can trust a man with no honor?

Anita van der Sloot can be happy that her son is released, but I'm afraid that she is not going to be happy for too long, not with the ramifications of how she has raised her son. As a mother myself, I certainly could not be proud of a son that would be involved in this sort of horrific crime. I would be embarressed and ashamed because it would be a reflection of myself and my parenting skills.

I'm reading that there are those that are threatening these people. All I can say is that they deserve whatever it is the public dishes out to them. If only they would've done the right thing. If only they would have taught their son to be honest and proper and respectful and been more involved with their son and given him guidance.

If only they would've been better role models for their son and his friends and come forward and done the right thing. It's too late now, their lives and reputations are ruined. And, I have to say, they brought all this pain onto themselves.

I applaud Beth and the media because in the end there will be justice. It may not be in the form of a conviction, but it will be in the form of ruined lives; just like Natalee's life was taken from her; these people's lives are no longer what they used to be prior to May 30, 2005.

Justice has many shapes and forms. Justice is now being done.

12:08 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

It is clear that "A Mom in Illinois" garantees the most unintelligent reaction to this case ever posted on the internet.

"These three boys are involved in drugs, date-rape, conspiracy and a cover-up of a crime. The whole world knows that."
Evidence please !!

"Paul van der Sloot's infamous words "no body; no crime" are well-known throughout the world. His career is shot. Who can trust a man with no honor?"
He can come work in The Netherlands any time :)

"As a mother myself, I certainly could not be proud of a son that would be involved in this sort of horrific crime."
Again, proof one single part of your silly accusations...

"All I can say is that they deserve whatever it is the public dishes out to them."
Back to the middle ages :(

"Justice is now being done."
So, true, Joran is free and will remain so.

Remember you Silly Yanks:
NO body >>> NO crime >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO conviction !!!

1:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why exactly did Holland support the US as an ally in the unholy war in Iraq??? Bet you'll know better next time!!
See how grateful the american public is? See how respectful they are to their allies?

Personally I think Natalee ran away or she was raped and killed by her step father or one of the mountain Brook students.
Hey, I have as much evidence to call Jug a rapist as Beth did to call Joran one. Or maybe Beth is the murderer. Yeah I think it was Beth because she was jealous that Jug like Nat better. Wink Wink.

In any case......I'm grateful for katrina for shutting Beth up!!

1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is ironic that who really is not raised right ....are the people wishing ill or harm to VDS family - whom they know nothing about in reality. Neither do I but as an unbiased citizen of Canada, I can say that inspite of all the bashing the media and family has done to the VDS family, they in turn have only shown dignity and strength admist this tragedy. They have never slandered or said anything mean to the people who have done it to them. They have no done unto others as others have done to I think the VDS are the ones raised right and with love of a higher power in their hearts. Think about it!! Any educated person can see right through the media's bullshi** for ratings and $, and I think it is such a shame that the media has spent 3 months covering so extensively this one tragedy when there are missing children and people every day. That time instead could have been used to generate information and awareness that could have helped other missing people be found, or help solve other crimes. Does anyone here even know who Latoya Figeura is? She was a pregnant black woman from Philadelphia. Her family could not even get her picture and info on tv b/c foxnews was too busy with Aruba. The family had to go to extremes to even get a minute or two coverage. SHAMEFUL!!! Did any rescue teams go to Philly to help? No. Her remains were found - she was killed by father of her baby. There is another missing 9 month pregnant women - Amanda Jones in St. Louis. Does anyone even know what she looks like incase they spot her? There are missing mothers, fathers, wives, daughters, sons, friends, sisters, brothers and CHILDREN missing every single day all over the world. To media**ore 1 tragic story is selfish b/c other people in the world need help. I guess a rich, white, family with $ and CONNECTIONS themselves get special priveleges. Why is it that most missing people cases it takes over 48 hours before police do something, why is it that their connections got the FBI in Aruba hours later. How did they secure a private plane to arrive in Aruba that same night? How much $ did that cost? $$ talks and bs goes both ways.

I am frustrated with the media ....and don't get me wrong I pray for ALL families involved. Holloways, VDS, and Kalpoes. Canada welcomes the VDS family anytime!! Give Joran a hug from all of Canada

2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PS. Remember what the news reports are ONLY ALLEGATIONS and no one has been given facts or proof of ANYTHING. Foxnews and media report rumors as fact and what facts they are given, that contradict their rumors which feed their ratings, they selectively do not report. For the amt of people who believe what the media says and is brainwashed by them...I have some nice, cheap swampland for sale. Any takers?;) On a more serious note, the statement "no body no case" is such a common statement that any defense laywer says to his clients of missing people, as is "no weapon no ..." etc . These phrases are as common to lawyers using, as is common to non-legal people saying "how's it going". Do not jump to conclusions....he is a father who happens to be a lawyer, who is alleged of saying a common legal phrase in a general term to his son. Think about that next time you say to someone "how's it going"?

PS This is my final post, I live in reality ...and it is not reality to make assumptions and accusations of people's lives we know nothing about. Pray for everyone involved but let's spend our time doing something productive....get out there in the real world and do something to make someone else's life better..volunteer, save an animal's life, help search for missing people etc. Bless everyone and have a nice day ...especially the VDS!!!!!!

2:46 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"Why exactly did Holland support the US as an ally in the unholy war in Iraq??? Bet you'll know better next time!!
See how grateful the american public is? See how respectful they are to their allies?"

Our prime suspect, ehh, prime minister balkie (Balkenende) is Bush' lapdog. For this he will not be re-elected !

Grateful the american public ? Don't make me laugh, trust them only as far as the Yankee dollar goes, they would sell out their mother for a buck !

And to Joran: "Have a great party tonight, your own bed.... sweet dreams ! Don't dream of these terrible looting Yanks, they will go away. Just come back to holland."

BTW did the frech batch of teenies arrive today ?

3:34 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

they would sell out their mother for a buck !***

Look at the English who supported them when it came to "deviding" the contracts after the Iraq conquest.....

Betrayed, by the Yanks, like always.

3:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Joran is innocent then i am happy he was freed...but if he is guilty I hope the guilt ruins him...we can all speculate but no one truly knows what happened to Natalee...i do hope they find her someday.

4:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What goes around will come back around tante!!
Rome is teetering on the brink, the reactions to this case prove it.

I say we all boycott the USA until they find those weapons of mass destruction Bush promised.

5:00 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

I second that ! :-)

The WMD & Nat'lee are together...

5:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante I have read through everything that has been posted on this case. I studied it with an open mind and personally I do feel there is a bunch of garbage out there. However, if you study the facts in the case, even some that you posted then messed up with your illogical rambeling, I do think there is enough evidence in this case. I think the Aruban government is simply baiting Joran and the K brothers.
My belief is they will let them hang themselves and lead the police to the body or at least enough evidence to put them away. These boys are no master minds and will eventually screw up. I only hope those out there wanting to start a lynch mob waite long enough for this to happen.
I do hope the media dies down on this story long enough for the guilty to mess up. All of the families involved need closure on this tragic incident.
Hey Tante why don't you go join Joran for a drink, take a walk on the beach with him. Just be carefull not to set your drink down for a second, never know what might fall in there.
I know of several people that have vacationed in Aruba then had some scarey memories a few months after getting back. You cannot tell me they don't drug and rape the tourists down there, we all know better.

10:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEWSFLASH: The society for consumer advocates reports that "date rate type drugs are manufactured in the USA".

How many women in USA are victims of these drugs being slipped in their drinks at school campuses? The statistics are shockingly high and this has been increasing over the past 10 years. Even more shocking, the schools aren't doing anything to prevent this or punish the perpetrators. If parents can't send their children to university and know they aren't safe on homeland soil campuses, then how can a parent send their child to a foreign country unattended? I feel bad saying this but it's true. And a woman should not get in a car with 1 male stranger, let alone 3 male strangers...nevermind 3 MALE STRANGERS IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

If we believe everything the media reports....well it was been widely reported that she willingly walked in their car and WAVED happily to friends. When asked "are you ok" she said "yes". I feel bad to say this because even though it was an extremely unsafe and very stupid thing to do (x 3) she is not to blame for whatever happened to her.....but some responsiblity does lie with her parents and, some with herself.

12:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you on the responsibility thing. I do not think anyone should send young adults over seas. I also think the school and her friends that let her go with them that night have some blame in the matter. I agree that date rape is bad everywhere. Violence and crime is out of control where ever people exist. It has been that way for many many years and is just now able to get more media coverage thanks to modern technology.
The fact still remains, Natalee has learned her lesson....the one responsible for it is yet soon will. The parents and the students that let her I am sure also learned their lesson. I just feel Tante needs to stop telling everyone how innocent Joran is and actually look at the facts of the case. She is telling everyone else to be objective yet clearly has out of control feelings for this young boy.
Tante you say Joran is welcome back anytime he wants? Does this mean you are a relative of this boy or have had some relationship with him in the past?
That would explain your stand behind him and defend him with eyes wide shut rambeling.

7:21 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

You cannot tell me they don't drug and rape the tourists down there, we all know better.
Where do you get this nonsense ?
Where are all these cases ??

I am not a relative, had never heard of them before this case started.
Joran will be coming to Holland as I predicted, just as his release...... that is so because I base my position on the facts of the case !

1. NO evidence of a crime at all, just a missing person who ran away befor (also look at the posters Beth put up, she is asking for Nat'lee to call her, obviously dead people do not make calls. Hence Beth herself believed she was/is alive.)

2. NO (dead)body, no DNA, no clothing, no nothing

3. NO confession(s), either from Joran or the carpool bro's

4. NO proof, hence no trial >>> innocent untill proven guilty is what you Yanks always say when it suits you ! Not 'Not proven guilty until proven guilty' or 'Guilty untill proven innocent'.

5. Read what was quoted early on in the media, before the frenzy. Joran told his mother on day one, that he was innocent and believed that it would be solved quickly as the truth would come out. He actually thought this would be resolved and that would be it as far as he was concerned.

6. Conclusion: there is absolutely no reason for any court to even start a case against him. INNOCENT !!

7. I hope some-one in the FBI will one day (soon!) tell the world and prove with documents what the details of this case are. Or at least demand from them to say if there was/is reason to prosecute Joran...

7 ppoints, chew on that while you watch the looting in NO !

Have a nice day :)

8:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate Beth Holloway and her quest to try to fry an innocent kid, just because her and old Jug Twitty were so naive and obviously disconnected from reality to let her daughter go to Aruba - the only people who should be lynched are the supposed chaperones who were drunk and in no control of that group of girls, and Natalie's friends who allowed her to wander off alone - what a bunch of morons - I hope they are scarred for life for the decisions they made!!!!

9:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is Joran going to come to Holland? From what I have read he cannot leave Aruba. This is a conditional release and he has to stay in very close contact with the police.
There are no cases of these rapes because the people were drugged and didnt remember it until later. They also only remember bits and pieces of it. Yes sadly this stuff happens all over however, it is very very commen in Aruba.
Tante you are either a relative that will not admit it, an old secret love of Jorans, or a star struck teenage wanna be love of Jorans. You may think you are smart and no everything but sadly you are mistaken. Enjoy your so called victory. Eventually reality will find you. As for your name calling and constant patting yourself on the back Grow up please it really doesnt do anything for you.

3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran can leave aruba ..but he has to stay in dutch territory that's why he is allowed to go to Holland.

That really is not nice to say you hate Beth. She is a mother who has a missing child she loves. Although I don't agree with her methods and way she has acted on tv, at the end of the day she is a mother, a fellow human in grief and suffering and it's not nice to hate someone so desperate to find her daughter, and fearing the worst.

Despite what side of this controversial issue one is on, everyone keeps preaching to "look at the facts" but guess what? WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCRETE FACTS to look at. None of us have seen the court files, none of us have seen the "evidence". All we have been fed is what the media has SELECTIVELY told us, and what the family has continued to state on the airwaves repeatedly, with prejudice. I can understand their passion and convictions because they are missing their daughter and do not know what happened to her, or where she is (dead or alive). They are naturally clinging to the 3 boys she left the bar with. Including the scenario they are responsible for her disappearance, there are counltess other scenarios they never focused on. What if all this time was wasted focusing on the boys when other avenues could have led them to their daughter? What if, hypothetically speaking Joran did leave her on the beach and went home, and is completely innocent. Her friends, on the news stated they met Joran in the casino, that it was Natalee who went up to him and introduced herself and flirting with Joran. So how is he the "predator"? as Beth & Jug have continued to label him. Allegedly, she asked him to help her with blackjack or something to regain the money she lost, because she had been observing him and he was a good player. THIS WAS REPORTED IN THE NEWS BY HER FRIENDS. Also she was doing belly shots at the bar. Also her friends stated she was dancing with him at C & C and making out with to get in a car with the guy you are making out with....what does one expect to happen next at that age?

WHAT IF....hypothetically speaking, after the beach she did not want him to walk her to the hotel because she knew some of her friends were outside by pool on their last night in Aruba, and they would know she had been with him, so she would rather go back on her own...alone and keep her "nice girl" image. And what if harm came to her after that, by someone else. Is that not a possibility? Greta kept saying on Fox news that the boys had a story even before the media reported it, but they say Joran always is at the casino, so the next day being there he would have seen the fiasco and people looking for the girl and know a girl by the same name was missing. Panicked, and scared he asked the boys to cover for him b/c he needed an alibi even though he was innocent. Of course, there is the scenario he is guilty or one or all of them are.....but there are MANY scenarios. Also, it was reported her ex boyfriend was also on the trip. What, if because of jealousy of seeing her with another guy he got revenge on her afterwards? If the bar closed at 1:30 am why weren't her 3 roommates worried when she didn't arrive to the room by 2 am, 3 am etc. Did they just think she was with some guy for the night?
Why did some of her friends, on the news state that they just thought she slept in and would catch another flight. Well if she wasn't in her room then they thought sleeping somewhere else was acceptable for her character right? It was not alarming for some of them. Chaperones at 930 am realized she wasn't there and one stayed behind and that was when apparently they began searching for her. NOT at 2am or 3 am or 4 am or 5 am...noone NOONE, NONE OF HER FRIENDS reacted when she was not around. I assume this was not "unuusal" or "alarming" or "worrysome" otherwise they would have reacted sooner right? Or been looking for her all night!!!!!!! WHAT ABOUT THESE FACTS PEOPLE?????

Whenever the family was on the media bashing the VDS and KPoes, it was stated as FACT. Meanwhile not one damn reporter ever reminded the family or viewers that these are "alleged" or "accusations". The only facts of this case we know for sure are that she willingly left the bar and went in a car with 3 male strangers in a foreign country and has disappeared. REMEMBER - the law in Aruba is different - you can be arrested and put in jail only based on a suspicion. Can you imagine if in USA everytime they suspected somebody of a crime, that person was thrown in the slammer. Even long before a crime has been established? Please everyone step back and think about that.....what if right now your door was knocked down and you were thrown in jail because you were suspected of doing something wrong. What if you lost all your freedom and stripped away of all your rights - all because of a SUSPICION. Does anyone even know the definition of the word? Suspicion: the act or an instance of suspecting something wrong without proof or on slight evidence. I repeat...without proof or slight evidence. Therefore it is safe to assume that those boys were put in jail and interrogated based on a suspect of something wrong .....without proof. Because folks if there was PROOF there would have been charges filed. I think everyone, has failed to remember that in our countries, being in jail happens afterwards of establishing guilt. In Aruba it happened before guilt or even before a crime has been even proven.

5:08 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

what people also do not understand that it is 'not done' for Dutch to be as loud as Yanks. Beth has been demanding attention and theVan Der Sloot's have wisely kept quiet. We admire that, specially because of Pauls occupation.

But do not mistake it as if they felt they were wrong and that their son was guilty !!!

"Tante you are either a relative that will not admit it, an old secret love of Jorans"
For the last time: I am NOT a relative, 51 yrs, so hardly possible for me to have a crush on Joran. Before this story broke I has never heard of them. I am not a shill.

Just one of the few people with a decent set of brains.

The Yanks just hate that I was right from the beginning: about the 4th of Sept release & Joran moving to Holland but mostly the Yankees hate it that it is:

"Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law... NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction !!!"

6:41 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

" I think everyone, has failed to remember that in our countries, being in jail happens afterwards of establishing guilt. In Aruba it happened before guilt or even before a crime has been even proven."
Let's be a little bit more precise;

Jail is the place police keep people who are arrested
prison is after a conviction

So prison is after a conviction, that will never come in this case.

Jail Joran was in 'coz he made the silly mistake of thinking he could get away with "We droped her off at the hotel".
That and the fact that he MAY have been one of the last people who have seen Nat'lee.
He paid with 86 days in jail ! I am sure he regrets that.

Buth whatever the media & Beth tell you are not [the] facts.

"Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law... NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction !!!"

6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not all americans are on Beth's God squad crusade. Please don't put us all into that catergory.

7:55 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

OK, I'll leave one [1] anonymous out :)

8:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


9:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not a yankee, I am not an aruban. I am offended by your rude comments regarding the tragidy taking place in those poor peoples lives because of the Hurricane. Tante and everyone else that is cherishing in this case and the Hurricane should be ashames of yourselves. What happened in Aruba and with this Hurricane was tragic. I really think Tante at your age you would behave better. Some of the younger people can at least use the excuse they don't no any better but you do know better or at least you should. Some of you sit there and talk about how bad people are for saying things against the People involved in these messes when in reality you are no better then they are. To bost and brag about the case going one way or another, to brag about being right about this case and relish in any kind of celebration, to wish harm and praise tragedy is unforgivable behavior for any age but for someone who has been around long enough to know what kind of pain these family's are experiencing and to talk that way? What is wrong with you? What kind of person are you? Shame on you!

11:50 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

You may be as offended as you like..... !

Just admit you are wrong and go on with your life.
Joran will be in Holland tomorrow and that is the end of your silly case.

Have a nice day :)

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction !!!

PS when is that porn movie comming out again ?

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a sick twisted evil foul mouthed rotten disgusting piece of trash. I don't care how this case turns out as long as it gets solved. Either by Natalee coming home or whoever did something to her being brought to justice. Joran can go to Holland or France or Germany or Hell for that matter I do not care. You on the other hand are obsessed and unforgivable and I certainly hope you get what you are giving back in ten fold. You racist hypocritical sorry excuse for anything with any kind of life in it what so ever.

10:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why aren't all you people doing something constructive with your time instead of being obsessed with this case. All the people who lost their homes and town and life as they knew it, as a result of Hurricane Katrina etc, would certainly appreciate help of any kind. Get off your asses and go help people, go volunteer, go help out at shelters in your town if you can't travel to any of the evacuees shelters, go to your local spca, go to your local seniors home and go help make someone else's life a little better. HOW many of you actually went out to SEARCH for natalee? Instead of commenting on shit you know nothing about in regards to the case, go help look for other missing people but don't sit there and run your mouths without doing something to make a damn difference. Think about it and help someone now! Use your time constructively. Help the environment, help the animals, help the needy....instead of helping yourselves to gossip and trash on the news!!

11:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helping ourselves to Gossip and Trash on the news! That's funny. Wasn't Beth and her family the ones spewing the endless gossip and trash?? Right up till the media left to cover a much bigger story.

1:31 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Yanks always follow the money..... ratings, Nat'lee & her porn flicks are just one [1] person and not so interesting anymore....

NO looting by black, far more interesting !

Have a nice day ! (remember that is the biggest insult you Yanks can get from us Europeans, whenever we hear you say that we are ROTFL).

And also remember:
NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction !!!

7:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ms. Tante Bet,

Who the fuck you think you are? You really think you can laugh in the face of the relatives of Natalee without getting a backdraft?

Good thing is, ppl see "justice" different. And I bet Joran will be brought to justice, with a 9mm bullet into his head.

8:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fick Dich Miss Bet Du drecksschlampe von Jorans Mutter.

9:07 AM  
Blogger travel agent said...

In Aruba it is not a crime to lie to authorities. It is expected. This same group was accused of rape by their classmates and becasue there is no sperm and the amount of time passing, nothing is to be done. It appears that Arubian Investigators, judges and court systems deliberately see no evil and they plug thier ears as to hear no evil and thus do nothing. Well the rest of the planet sees this and it is replusive. I will not travel to Aruba, it does not appear safe.

10:11 AM  
Blogger travel agent said...

What ever happened to that forearm that was found? and then the next day or so soon after the plane went down.

What about interferrence in an investigation? and how this group had the investigation goping in the wrong direction due to their lies. Oh that's right :it's not a crime to make "false statements". mess up an investigation.

10:18 AM  
Blogger JUSTICElady said...

Aruba is free of Beth Holloway.
You are now safe and don't have
us, the US media bothering you
May Joran go on to college as I
understand he has done, get on
with his life.
Beth created the mass chaos, just
pray she does not return to your
beautiful Aruba.
North Carolina USA

11:00 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

@ travel agent
pls tell all your customers to stay away from our beautiful Island !! Who needs Yanks like Beth & Thug the lier ?
Can you also pls give an entry visa to Jossey Manure ? We would like to get rid of the criminal and you seem to like him...

"Who the fuck you think you are? You really think you can laugh in the face of the relatives of Natalee without getting a backdraft?

Good thing is, ppl see "justice" different. And I bet Joran will be brought to justice, with a 9mm bullet into his head."

This is what I mean with the moron mentality, kill, kill, kill is all you know. That is because your iQ's are never more than your shoe size.

But pls come to Holland with your pief-paf-poef and get a tatse of justice :)

NO crime >>> NO body >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction !!!

11:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be sure your sins will find you out. The truth will come to the light. There is no escaping the judgement of a righteous God. Eventually the perpetrator will pay. Just a matter of time :)

1:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again the God Squad speaks up. Pedal your B.S. somewhere else:):)

3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God please do not listen to this hate instead bless each and every one of these individuals, they do not mean the hateful things they say. Please if Natalee is alive take care of her and keep her out of harms way until she returns home to the family that loves her. Bless her family and relatives and help comfort them in these trying times. Bless Joran and keep him safe from those who want to do him harm. Bless his family and help them to be strong with him during this troubled times. In the name of Jesus Amen.

7:15 PM  
Anonymous A Mom in Illinois said...

A message to Tante Bet. Your comment to mine doesn't deserve much of my time. From reading your many comments on this blog, you ought to take a good look at yourself before criticizing others. Your attitude and nasty responses portray the type of person that you are. It would embaress me to have those type of postings on a blog site open to worldly opinion. Please don't feel the need to respond to this comment to you.

The last Anonymous entry above at 4:15 was a very nice prayer.

There are obviously many people who are hurting from the incident that took place on May 30 in Aruba. This day has changed many lives. Someday, I'm sure the truth will unfold. Until then, none of the blogs or media or public opinion is going to change what's happened or how it happened. It's a good thing that the boys are out of jail and the media is not on this story as much as they were before Katrina hit our Gulf coast. Justice will eventually come to those who had involvement. In the meantime, the people of Aruba are long overdue for normalcy on their island.

Beth and the rest of Natalee's family will eventually get the closure they desperately need. This was not the perfect crime, nor will it go unpunished as I stated in my very first comment way up above. God bless!

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante Bet: by referring to Yank Teenies and Joran you are admitting he is a vulture and young innocent girls his prey.

9:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth sent her young teenage daughter to Aruba because of the drinking age. That's exactly why the school had chosen that island over other destinations! Those young "innocent??" girls are getting drunk with no supervision. What did they think was going to happen?? Have these people with teenagers never watched MTV? It's all about getting drunk: hooking up and one night stands. Would these same parents serve alcohol to these kids in there own back yard?? Hell No!! But it's okay to send them off to an island with no supervision.

1:14 AM  
Anonymous A Mom in Illinois said...

To this last Anonymous entry at 10:14 PM:

I really don't think you can comment on why Beth sent her daughter to Aruba. Although I'm sure that it was not because she could drink without any supervision. That really is not the type of people that Beth and Jug have portrayed themselves to be. That comment is totally made out of ignorance.

These teenage girls have an innocence and naivete that is age-appropriate. Aruba was known to be a very safe environment for these type of graduation trips. I'm sure no one thought or planned on something as tragic as this happening there.

Unfortunately, Natalee met the wrong type of teenagers. I'm sure she had no clue as to what was going to happen to her or that her life was in danger.

Now, these teenage boys' behaviors have been exposed to the world. Aruba has teens which are allowed to drink, gamble, have access to drugs, are involved in pornographic activities, etc. I really don't think that any Mother would feel that Aruba is now a safe place to send their teen on a graduation trip. These boys have ruined the island's reputation.

11:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sending teenagers to any country without supervision is ridiculous. The drinking part was brought up on Beth's media blitz. Beth also stated that there had been comments made about Carlos & Charlies and locals hitting on girls from people who had gone on this same trip in the past. They have protrayed Natalee as a perfect church going angel and that is not the case. Would Beth allow her daughter to be out drinking every night her in the states? The U.S. allows teens to drink too when they use false I.D's just as the local teens did there. Teens here in the U.S. use drugs too. Lots of kids from the suburbs do drugs too because they have parents that hand out money like candy. Beth and Jug have protrayed themselves to be saints. Yet they kept lying and spining their opinions into fact and kept spewing it over and over again on the news. Started to make her look like a crazy person. I believe the islands reputation will be fine. Maybe parents will take better supervision over their own children.

11:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do believe that Aruba's tourism will suffer because of these 3 thugs. What a shame. The Aruban people I'm sure are good people and THEY are the ones that will suffer because of the 3 idiot BOYS. I know I will never come to Aruba and I take Cruises quite often, but never will I come to Aruba.

7:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd be warning my daughters if I knew they were going to the same college as Urine :-) Hope the administration keeps a CLOSE eye on him.

7:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey Tante Bet bitch,

you speaking about my IQ? How about yours? Defending a rapist and murder. How about your EQ? Never heard about it?

NO wonder. Iam btw. in Holland by the end of this month. So tell me where I can meet you.

7:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aruba will be fine. The hotels were still full the whole time the investigation has been going on. Even with the media and natalee's family there. When do you think this case is going to start hurting Aruba?? Because I haven't seen it happen yet. Seems to have had increased business.. Funny huh??

9:46 AM  
Anonymous r_52 said...

".....hey Tante Bet bitch,

you speaking about my IQ? How about yours? Defending a rapist and murder. How about your EQ? Never heard about it?

NO wonder. Iam btw. in Holland by the end of this month. So tell me where I can meet you....."

A rapist and murderer? Are there new facts? Didn't read about it!

Remember: not guilty until proven!

1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

R_52, how do you know he is a murderer? He is as innocent as
you are until proven otherwise.
I think if Beth would stay at
home the case might be solved.
I am from NC in the United State

3:38 PM  
Anonymous river-52 said...

Ho, ho! Read well! I quoted some lines (between the little points) and then gave my own thoughts.
As for Joran? The more I stay on this blogg, the more friendly feelings I get towards him. Well, I shall ofcourse get al lot of nasty frases thrown towards my head (the friendly feelings), don't you think so?

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My name is Jan van der Graacht and I know Joran. He is a rapist. He raped my sister 4 years ago in Utrecht. Its horrible that his family has so much influx into the government that he escape a second time now!

11:24 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Of course van der Graacht, I didn't find anything about a raped van der Graacht. Or had your sister another backname. Maybe another father?
The only rape reported I found in Utrecht was done by a male between 30 and 40 years, with an Utrecht kind of talking..

If you're Dutch, it must be possible for you to read the lines below!

(13 Sep 2002 Verkrachting Utrecht Utrecht Gaande Onduidelijk
Plek: het groene gebied ten oosten/zuid-oosten van Utrecht Beschrijving verdachte: blanke man van 165-175 cm groot tussen de 30 en 40 jaar, gezet postuur, spreekt met Utrechts accent).

It smells if we have another attempt to manipulate public opinion again!

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Joran is in the Netherlands going to college. Well, Daddy had BETTER stay close by sonny, his party boy, because he is like a loose cannon. I think Daddy knows that too. If Joran slips and in a druken state starts talking, Daddy will most likely be in hot water too. The truth will eventually come out, and sonny will probably be the one to reveal it.

9:29 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Daddy don't need to do it, I will!

1:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I advise to KEEP IT SIMPLE:
I like to check if prosecutors in
Aruba followed Aruban P.M.'s directive to share all the files and information reg. Natalee's
disappearance in Aruba with FBI? And all those informations are presented to
judge/judges in court?
How about MIND READERS from Holland had to say?
It seems Joran's statement that "Deepak" carpool raped, murdered and buried Natalee" with
two three police officers's signatures on it is not presented
to court;If not, why not?If reported, then how many confessions
to put Kalpoes (carpoolers)in jail and keep them till the end??
If ARUBA (Holland) follows international laws, then Paulus
Sloot can be put and kept in jail for not helping justice; in India
police arrest him first for obstruction of justice; and India
follows British Justice System till
today, and it can be solved in one month if it happened in India; because even Head of Police department is afraid of police there in case of murders.Sometimes,
people like it to solve crimes fast.
Why so much secrecy in justice?
Justice delayed is justice denied.
Unless, police and court open their
files for all parties,we do not know who is playing game?
It looks,tourists and girls are
missing in ARUBA to serve ROYALS
and locals are scared to complaint
and no police cases, no records, no nothing and no murders in ARUBA;
and it is Paradise for Royals but hell for poor tourists and locals.
LET US WAIT TILL ALL THE FILES submitted to court by prosecutors are open to see; then decide???!!

2:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow tante bet is really going into it, stikking by Joran and Kalpoe's no matter what. A real shame someone like this is out there, I hope tante bet that one day you will receive the same treatement like Natalee did, but worse than you will know how it feels. You blame Beth and everyone who is supportive of Natalee and the family and you have much love and sympathie for the rapists and probable murderers of an innocent young girl. You say you live in Holland Now everything makes sence to me, probably you have gotten to know Joran, and you have the hots for him and would like to be fucked by him too, but he doesn't want that because you are probably too old and ugly bitch to fuck with a real turnoff so now in your jealousy that Natalee got to see and play with his dick and you can only dream of it, so now you trash us and everyone who knows what is going on their, you should better die instantly instead of walking around one minute longer on this earth: I will personally be praying for your death from now on BITCH!

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well if hes so innocecent then why the heck did he lie 22 times, reported by Fox News ?????? cant ansser that one huh Joran supporters. DIDNT THINK SO.

An innocent person doesnt lie that many times, hell they dont lie at all, lies are meant to cover up somthing. If you dont know anything then you say that, but you certainly dont lie. The truth is what makes you innocent, and this trio and daddy is not innocent. Joran has had a history of slipping pills in girls drinks. He is guilty as hell here. Those sick bastards will pay for their consequence. This poor girls family should deserve to know the truth. And this trio were the last people with her. Period. They do know somthing. Im sick of the lies and the sick games they play. May natalee rest in peace. And this case will continue , until the girls is found dead or alive. Beth would never give up on her child, a loving parent never would, and she has the money to keep this investigation going, as she has been, GO BETH! YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB! God bless everyone in this investigation.

8:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

skag sverskä sindrii swarinskië?

6:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the guy published his own book, that's just cruel!! He studies at the same uni I used to study.

11:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran Van der Sloot is not a killer . Joran is innocent!!!

2:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is guilty he will die in prison and he deserves it. Joran is a cold blooded killer.he's killed more people before this one.

2:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This Jew WILL GET HIS SOON...AND HE WILL REALIZE, unlike the rest of this country, screw around with an ALABAMA GIRL, you will pay !!!
Let the Investigators from Aruba come to Alabama, we'll show them what we think.

1:44 PM  
Anonymous The guy who also can see the Dutch news. said...

Some Animals out there? Just imagine, one did not do murder or rape, but sold drugs and can not speak out blond. Would you live better just to know that at least that someone is in jail or get the dead penalty for someone who is assumed dead (because not proven alive)? Some of you make it look like we are still at 1 BC.

2:27 AM  
Anonymous Rianne said...

he is not guilty,I believe him

12:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what i think happend was thay were on the beach and she overdosed then he got scared in did somthing to here body lots of watter out there.

6:28 PM  

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