Wednesday, September 28, 2005

"Things Are Definitaly Looking Up"
Joran Van Der Sloot updated his blog today.... Click on screenshots to enlarge....
"I had a ruff time the past 3 monthes but things are definitaly looking up now. I have so many friends and family members that love me that whatever other people say doesn't bother me the slightest bit. Life is fragile and your whole life can be turned upside down at anytime, my suggestion to everyone is carpedium and live every day to its fullest!"







488 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow, looks certainly dont run in his family..even his brother is a little fat ass

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, you are good. Let's see your birth certificate before another copy of your birth certificate pops up in this blog. If you do that, you are honest. We have nothing else to say.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can leave comments on his space now. He made an entry on it.

4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran. you need to come clean, man. Sit down and give a press conference and tell the truth. When you say "One day I'll tell the whole story" it only implies that you are still lying. Come clean man...give these people some rest. Imagine if it was your mom looking for you.

4:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ready, set, goooooooooo.......

4:37 PM  
Anonymous TK said...

Wow some of you just don't know how to be nice, do you? His brother is not fat. And even if he were how rude and mean-spirited to make that comment. Some of you people are nothing but "bullies". You like bashing, harassing, and mistreating other people. How sick is that. All I want to say is "good luck" to Joran. I wish him the best. He has the right attitude, and things will get better for him as time goes on. I'm sending out love, peace and joy to Joran, his family and his friends. Peace man.

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blog



September 28



My Life!

I had a ruff time the past 3 monthes but things are definitaly looking up now. I have so many friends and family members that love me that whatever other people say doesn't bother me the slightest bit. Life is fragile and your whole life can be turned upside down at anytime, my suggestion to everyone is carpedium and live every day to its fullest!




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4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

was those pictures taken at his 'freedom' party?

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is going to Arnhem Business School.

4:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell me your real age. You are just turned 18. How could you have so many girls at such a young age? I am a 17 blonde girl, and I don't even have a boyfriend! I had one sex at 14, and that's it. Your are just cool.

4:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you thrown the roses , I will play the violin...TK, go drive your soccer mom van and shut the hell up

September 28



My Life!

I had a ruff time the past 3 monthes but things are definitaly looking up now. I have so many friends and family members that love me that whatever other people say doesn't bother me the slightest bit. Life is fragile and your whole life can be turned upside down at anytime, my suggestion to everyone is carpedium and live every day to its fullest!


yeah bastard, live yourlife cause you took someone elses..

4:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell me your real age. You are just turned 18. How could you have so many girls at such a young age? I am a 17 blonde girl, and I don't even have a boyfriend! I had one sex at 14, and that's it. Your are just cool.





Are you kidding????????? Leave that piece of shit messages on his MSN Space..and i can tell your ass is foreign cause you dont put "S" on the end of words- LOSER

5:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is going to Arnhem Business School.

Their website is:
http://www.han.nl/restyle/international/int-abs/fac_frameset.xml

As you can see, they are trying to appeal to international students - half their students (and presumably much of their revenue) come from outside of Holland, and they certainly wouldn't want bad international publicity.

I will write to them and ask how they can guarantee the safety of their students when they've admitted into their university an admitted date-rapist - according to his own statements - and someone who has, at the minimum, hindered a murder/rape investigation and who is still, legally, a suspect in a murder.

I wouldn't send my child to a university where a suspected murderer and rapist is so easily admitted. They need to be aware that the world knows what sort of student is wandering their halls and representing their learning institution and the students there should know the background of their classmate. If you were attending a private university in the US, I'm sure you'd want to know if the faculty were aware that a supected murderer and rapist has been admitted.


Their email is:
international.abs@han.nl

and

abs@han.nl


"Our school is a medium-sized institution of Higher Education. We provide higher professional education in English as well as in Dutch. There are over 4,000 students at Arnhem Business School. About 400 of them are enrolled in one of our international programmes. Over half of these students come from abroad."

They definitely do not want negative international publicity - I suggest we give them some....

It takes 30 seconds to send an email. Please help apply pressure until we get a result...

The only guarantee nothing will happen is if you don't do anything..

5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

^^^^^ nice job

5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, I live in USA and I feel what happened in Aruba is most unfortunate for everyone.
I wish you great success in life.

Ignore the foul mouthed loosers who harass and keep in mind the love of your family and friends as you move foreward.
May God bless you!

5:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, I wish you nothing but the very best as you live your life.
Continue moving foreward and try to put the past behind.
Unfortunately, you spent some time with the wrong girl in Aruba.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefull one day the real truth about Aruba will surface.
While I feel sorry for Beth Twitty, none of us have any guarantees in life. She needs to put her trust in God and mourn the loss of her child instead of allowing the media to make a circus of Natalee and degrade her.
Keep looking forward, and make the most of what you have.
Value your family and friends.

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Mom said don't go to Aruba next summer with your friends. I am so angry with my Mom. I really love you, Joran. I'm eager to meet you there. My mom told my dad you are a 25 y.o. predator. I am very upset right now. pls help me

5:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
My Mom said don't go to Aruba next summer with your friends. I am so angry with my Mom. I really love you, Joran. I'm eager to meet you there. My mom told my dad you are a 25 y.o. predator. I am very upset right now. pls help me

5:33 PM


Anonymous



are you fucking kidding me????????


get a life loser....

PLEASE HELP ME JORAN....yeah its prob. what Natalee was saying....stupid dumb ass women ..

5:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You had best live life to the fullest every day you stupid Dutch rapist murdering son of a bitch. Yes your mother is a bitch and your father is an evil bastard for having a sick prick as you. Hopefully you and the mongrel Kalpoes will be dead within 1 month. There are millions of Americans who will not be content until your evil father and you 3 killer savages are in hell. Fuck you you sorry son of a bitch. Everyone knows exactly where that school is that you are hiding in.

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Joran....remember Thomas Twitty who was playing poker with you at the casino? Yeah him and Hunter.....the step cousins of Natalee. Beth tried to keep a secret they were with Natalee in ARuba. Dave found out only now and is shocked to find that out. Thomas & Hunter fucked off from ARuba as fast as they could as soon as Uncle Jug's private plane got there when "something bad happened". Yeah tell the cops all you know about Thomas & Hunter b/c the FBI is investigating them.....word has it they were hiding in the fishermans's hut after you left and gang raped Natalee. That's why she wanted you to stay with her....she knew they were there and didnt' want them raping her AGAIN. That's why she kept changing hotel rooms in the holiday inn...to run from them but they kept finding her and having more brutal sex with her.

5:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry the football team takes the twitty twins in the locker room and they all gang rape them after practise....taking turns from behind, and rumour has it on campus they put a gun to Hunter's head and made him have sex with Thomas. But Thomas didn't need a gun to his head, he's a perv just like Uncle Jug and he fucked Hunter for free. and yes Thomas Twitty does swallow......the whole football team was grossed out at that.

5:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran. come clean motherfucker. You are one chicken shit piece of crap, just like your pussy father. Run and hide assholes, it aint over till its over. You think you got off, just wait. I hope those two worthless ass wipes in Aruba turn on your ass. I want to see you and your daddy running like little girls. You and your dad have no honor. Have a nice life asshole.

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the fuck is wrong with these crackheads? I guess that's Freddy Narizdepinga and Deepak? That fucking Apu looks like somekind of nospheratu.

6:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Print this out and pass it out for us in Holland okay?

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=3608&PN=2

6:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope Joran plans a trip to the USA. I know some people who would like Urine to do a little disappearing act of his own.

6:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I hope Joran plans a trip to the USA. I know some people who would like Urine to do a little disappearing act of his own.

6:20 PM


Wow what an uneducated moron. Yes lets do to him what we believe he did to Natalee to prove that ...doing it is wrong? You're a fool.

6:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran's life motto is "Only God Can Judge Me"? A Tupac Shakur reference: Grow up Gangsta--you be in business schooo now!
P.S. Please spell "definately" the non-Aruban way.

6:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laat ze lullen die stomme idote kutamerikanen. Ze zijn zelf geen klote waard. Kijk maar naar die mongool van een Bush.

Holland Hup! Yankees die!

6:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Urine-What's it like to know that you and the Kalpoe's are murderers and rapists?? What's it like to know that your father covered up your murder, which for all intents and purposes makes him a murderer too? Keep living in denial but guess what Urine-your time is coming!!!

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ESPECIALLY FOR: 6:42 PM~~~~Another Dutch murderer, huh ?? Wishing the Americans to die ? Must genetically run in DUtch genes...the murder gene !

6:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 6:42PM, uh, I mean Joran...
Why don't you write in modern English instead of "dutch = caveman english"; you see - we no longer subscribe to the "Me Tarzan, You Jane" dating philosophy.

6:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

boycott aruba
joran is guilty !!!!

6:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Especially for 6:47 PM
No, look what your fellow American write here. Idiot!

6:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That Satish looks like a freaking baboon and Joran looks retarded

6:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And so does your president LOL

7:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

U S A NEWS FLASH FOR THE DUTCH:

Release immediately !

AP/Urine Blogs


joran SAID:

There is more truth to be told.....

Did he NOT tell it all when questioned ??

Arubans, and ALL DUTCH~~~~

Step away from the dope pipe and pay attention to your guilty citizen.URINE is guilty !

No body~~~~~~but GUILTY~~~~~he DID commit the crime !!!!

7:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EXCUSE ME ! But the murder genes you speak run in every human being. You don't actually have to kill someone to be a murder. You can just casually say something like I could just kill him/her. According to God's word, you have comitted a sin. Judging another is also a sin and especially so if you have NO PROOF to back up your judgement. "Judge not least ye be judged."
Put yourself in everyone's shoes involved in this case. Stand in front of the mirror and take a long hard look at yourself. What do you think you'd see?
I know without a doubt that a great many of you are teenagers spouting off. Stop and remember that you could be Joran. Yes, it could happen to you too. How would you feel if it were you, or your brother. What if you were innocent and most of the world thought that you were guilty. How would you cope? I am sure there have been times in your life when, say for instance, your parents accused you of some wrong doing and your innocent. How did you react in that situation?
Come on and give me answers, I'll wait to see how many will respond like civilized humans, and how many will spew venom.
I am telling you that you don't know anything about this case, except what you've heard through the media, and read in the supermarkert tabloids. That is, unless you were there with NH.
Here is a little saying my grandmother told us, "The bit dog will bark the loudest, and Be sure, that your sins will find you out."

7:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which God will judge Joran ? Dutch say that GOD is for fools !!

96% of ALL Dutch citizens are athiests !

7:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Urine's sins will find him out and Depuke and Satass too and the Mother who says it is ok to lie, we all lie ! Whatever !!!

7:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is only one God and he will judge us all. You, me , everyone including the Dutch and Bin Laden.
Don't like it. Sorry. Deal with it.

7:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am proud to be an American, a Christian, and a truthful person. I take great merit in the fact that I have HIGH integrity. I bet Urine cannot say that ! Well he could, and believe it, cuz he IS a psycho !!

7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He cannot judge those who deny him. Decaying morals in the land of the Dutch. LEGAL abortion, LEGAL drug use, LEGAL prostitution, and LEGAL lies by all of its LE and officials. What a demented country.

7:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now let's see, You are psycho analyst, right?

7:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No he's is just an anal psycho

7:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran,
Tell the truth. What happened that night to Natalee Holloway?
When you finally answer this truthfully, you will be left alone.
Just tell us anonymously: What happened?

7:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter how vile you are, you will get to participate in the judgement day.

7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth Titty is a stalker and a lier and if she comes to the Netherlands we will throw rotten eggs and tomatoes at her!

7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ano 7:19 Your comment made me laugh. Thanks!

7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharpen the toes on the clogs and give her good swift kick back to US.

7:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joren, Beth needs to take Natalee home. Only you can allow that to occur. If you have any heart at all, you will allow that to happen. If you do not, then this will never go away and you will always be in the limelight because Beth is never going to let it go and neither are the rest of those of us who believe you can bring this to an end for that family and for your own family. Despite what your father has told you, there are repercussions to pay for withholding this information. Your father is wrong and is a bad role model to have become involved in the lies that have been told. He too will suffer the consequences of his actions....maybe not today or tomorrow but he will someday. You have brought this on your mother and two younger brothers and now they too will have to suffer for your actions. And this you are proud of? Think again Joran....this is only JUST BEGINNING for all of you.

7:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 7:24 PM,
Why did my comment make you laugh?
Isn't it finally time for Joran, or SOMEONE, to just tell the truth for a change?
If there is an innocent explanation let's hear it...

7:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:31 It was the 7:19 post above yours.
If someone doesn't know anything, how they can tell you anything?

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is embarrassingly obvious... Joran knows more than he is saying.
EVERYONE can see that... I just wish he would finally tell where Natalee can be found. We don't need to know the sordid details of her death, but where can Beth retrieve her daughter to bring her home to rest? Isn't that humane?
If Heaven Forbid, it were Joran's beloved family or friend, wouldn't he fight for the same answers?!

7:49 PM  
Blogger Cookie said...

Hey dude, where is Natalee?

7:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow he restricted the site a lot sooner than I thought he was going to. Hmmm I figured that he would keep it open longer since he is that arrogant!

7:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If he is the physco and liar and all these other names people have called him, I doubt that he would even care, albeit his family.

7:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys should be very careful with what you say on here. Journalists and Police/FBI are watching this site very closely.

7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Probably should have left it unrestricted so the FBI could hone in on those offering reward money for his life.

7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this site needs to shut down completly. Enough nonsense is enough. These folks need to get themselves the "Clue" game.

8:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You guys should be very careful with what you say on here. Journalists and Police/FBI are watching this site very closely. "

ROLMAO!!

You mean American journalists? Oh, who cares, the have a one sided view on this case anyway!

As for the FBI and US police watching. Hey, as we give a shit.... Everybody is allowed to say what they want to say in this case even if it's bullshit. And if they wanna read this bullshit, they probably have nothing else to do right?

8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Joran! We know you're reading this.

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ATTN ALL DUTCH :

U may be in BIG trouble, not MAY, will be !!!!!

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Remember those words that Joe Mammana mentioned a couple of weeks ago?

“I just want the people of Aruba to know that Natalee Holloway’s mom, Beth Twitty and Joe Mammana are coming back to Aruba. Hell is coming with them, we did not forget Natalee Holloway”.

Philadelphia businessman, philanthropist and Philly’s Avenging Angel, Joe Mammana and Beth Holloway Twitty planned to meet with an attorney here to discuss her options in the stalled investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

With help from a local businessman, the mother of an Alabama teen who disappeared on a class trip to Aruba planned to meet with an attorney here to discuss her options in the stalled investigation.

Beth Holloway Twitty, mother of Natalee Holloway, told the Philadelphia Daily News for Wednesday’s editions that “we just feel like if we just continue, that something will break.”

On her meeting with an attorney, she said, “I want to see what my options are, and how do I go about pursuing those.”

Joe Mammana, who has contributed $250,000 in reward money in Holloway’s case. He has also contributed $100,000 reward for the missing 26 year old, nine months pregnant Amanda Jones. He played a major role in the $100,000 reward increase in the Latoyia Figueroa case. Mammana also gave $50,000 to the Julia Popovich reward as well. Joe Mammana has been known for his no nonsense Sicilian approach to practical situations. As Joe has stated in the past he does not call it “reward money, he refers to it as “bounty money“.

“I don’t call it reward money,” Mammana said. “I call it bounty money. I’m a vengeful person. I don’t believe in an eye for an eye; I believe in two for one.”

Joe Mammana arranged for the meeting for Beth Twitty to got to Philadelphia to meet with an attorney, whom have not been identified.

“We’re going to hound and harass these people forever,” Mammana told the newspaper, referring to Aruban officials and “anybody else involved with this that we feel did not cooperate and help us.”

This really is an interesting mix and Mammana’s words are sure to create some worries and comments from Aruban officials. Why do I get the feeling that Joe Mammana is not going to put up with much nonsense?


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September 28th, 2005 at 8:02 pm
I wish that Joe Mammana could be cloned. The USA needs MORE concerned, caring, loving men like himself !Being successful financially he gives of his $$ and his time. He is a God send to the world, and a wonderful, unselfish human being.Being of Cicilian decent, I feel that he can successfully communicate his desires on Twitty’s behalf for the return or resolution of their daughter, Natalie. Yes, he was a “bad” boy once, but his life TODAY in my opinion is A powerful example of HOW one can turn themselves around and become the high integrity individual that he is today. I have never met him, but would be honored to. I admire his qualities and consider him to be my 21st century hero !We all have our heroes and idols, my money is on Joe to get resolution to this long overdue mystery for Beth ! God bless you Joe, I will be praying for u to be successful and endure this one also, and a candle will be lit at mass on Sat. pm for u !!!!!!! GO JOE GO !!!

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8:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GO BETH !
GO JOE !

Kick those Dutch asses !!!!!

BOYCOTT ARUBA !!!

Get your wooden shoes shined Joran cuz Joe is coming to Holland !!!

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran has deleted his space, he is online right now :)

8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He may delete, but..........he better get his wooden shoes shined to meet Joe.......he is coming to Aruba with HELL on his backside and Beth ! GO JOE !!!!!!!!!!!

8:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We all love Joran and believe that he is innocent. Deepak and Satish are also innocent. Natalee ran away with someone she knew. I wonder if the FBI confiscated her computer?

8:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish Joran the best of luck in his studies. The truth will one day become known. Right now, Mrs Twitty has become such a commodity used by the media that she cannot focus on anything but her anger. Maybe Joran is innocent, you cannot judge him for a lie, we all lie. Mrs Twitty even lies, she has told many, in addition to trashing an entire island and calling for boycott. People are missing in each state. Arubans are good. Viva Aruba, you have opened your hearts to the Twittys and even helped in searches. The should feel shame.

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"U may be in BIG trouble, not MAY, will be !!!!!"

And what do you want to do about that? You Yanks are so retarded that you deserve a good kick in the face with my wooden shoe. Just make good movies, send your innocent children to war and shut the fuck up will 'ya!

8:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth Twitty should be stopped. She needs meds! She is coming to the Netherlands to look for revenge? She ought to go home and hug her other child. Bad Beth.

8:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that Beth Twitty and the angry husband are wrong. I think Natalie ran away to escape the control freaks!!!

8:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is a liar and he killed someone. First of all, he has lied in all the interviews, and second of all, he already admitted to sex w/Natalee, now he denies it. Girls, be careful out there, don't listen to this sweet guy, he's a murderer!

8:33 PM  
Anonymous Jack in Southern California said...

BETH TWITTY is so wrapped up in anger, supported by the likes of that cackling b'atch, NANCY GRACE and the rest of her ILK.

It is very sad that a mother whose daughter is lost, has been so badly influenced by the media demons, such that she can no longer act rationally.

Go home Beth. Hold you husband and the rest of your family.

Jack in Southern California

8:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy Beth is going to Holland with, the rich guy Joe, has a criminal past including violence against women. Be careful who you trust Beth!

8:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.han.nl/restyle/international/int-abs/fac_frameset.xml Send a complainogram to Jorans schttp://www.complainaboutlife.com/complainogram.aspx?theme=natalee_holloway.jpghool

8:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Dutchman? Isn't that a dumb German?

8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.complainaboutlife.com/complainogram.aspx?theme=natalee_holloway.jpg

8:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have Natalee's Alabama driver's license to prove it. I also have Natalee's pussy hair in my pocket.

8:54 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Joran says something like "We lagen te vrijen op de achterbank tot ze in slaap viel. Toen we bij het strand aankwamen heb ik haar wakker gemaakt."

"We were making out on the back seat of the car til she fell asleep, When we reached the beach I woke her up."
This would be my translation.....

But

Cop makes some notes..
Cop talks to his dictaphone
Typist types it out
Paper is thrown in the dumpster
Paper ends up with an Aruban
An Aruban passes it to Beth
Beth passes it to a translator
A translator passes translation to a lawyer
A lawyer explains it to Beth
Beth tells it on DrPhil
DrPhil show is transcripted

And now Beth Bitch says: "Joran admitted in statements to sexual assault & gang rape on the beach, Deepak also confirmed this"
while all that was said from the beginning was (again);
"We were making out on the back seat of the car til she fell asleep, When we reached the beach I woke her up."

8:58 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"Jug insisted that the FBI stated that there was blood in the car. Janssen retorted that the alleged blood was in fact cleaning fluid. Jug vehemently disagreed with Janssen. Second, Jug spoke of three American witnesses who overheard implicating statements made by the suspects: Joran and Deepak. These statements, Jug says, were ignored by the Aruban investigators. According to Jug, Janssen told them to get sworn statements from these witnesses in the USA. Jug said they got a federal judge to take the statements; however, Janssen refuses to return calls to Jug and Beth concerning what to do with these statements.


Now comes the fun part. Jug was stunned when Janssen revealed family problems with Natalee. Jenssen questioned the $1 Million life insurance policy taken out on Natalee. Further contestation led to queries by Jenssen about Jug's brother's money laundering activities. At this point, Jug admitted that he is high strung. However, he feels that Jenssen is either hiding or has no backbone.

Jug takes a few breaths, then continues with the statement that Jenssen will not admit that she erred when releasing the three suspects. He ridicules her response that they were trying to catch the three red-handed exposing the crime. Jug chuckles that their entire, nine-day, surveillance effort of the three suspect produced absolutely nothing."

8:58 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Janssen revealed family problems with Natalee. Jenssen questioned the $1 Million life insurance policy taken out on Natalee.

This case is finally getting intresting :)

8:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

joe mammana was a bad boy, but has truly turned his life around and is of highest integrity. like what pappa sloot, urine and the puke's should do, and 99% of the aruban gov't. put that in your dope pipe and smoke it instead of your usual LEGAL Dutch dope ! u people and your gov't are a disgrace !!!!

9:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, As an American I sincerely apologize and am very disgusted at the filthy writings of some sicko
Americans. Alabama has its share of sicko and rednecks...but not everyone is like this.
I see your favorite saying is "Only God can judge me." This is absolutely correct and God will judge them also as this world is so close to the end of life as we know it. Judgement is very close.
Keep positive thoughts and please walk a straight path and please, no
more lies. I feel sure you have learned by now that lying is not the right path to take. Everyone has made mistakes.
I pray for you Joran, and want to hear good things about you! You are very gifted,talented and capable! Love your family and never take them for granted.
Ignore the ignorant and uneducated
who can only spout gutter garbage.

9:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

greta asked about the 1 mil life ins. policy the other night on her show. tante, u asshole go read the transcripts IF u can step away from the dope pipe long enough to find it ! all teens have family problems. u still do lady !!! psych bitch !!!!!!!!!!!!

9:04 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Jug had his cousins kill Nat'lee !!

Definately, he needs that million !

9:06 PM  
Anonymous Maura said...

Joran is guilty!!!!

BOYCOTT ARUBA NOW!

www.boycottarubanow.net

9:07 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

NO body >>> NO crime >>> NO evidence >>> NO proof >>> NO courtcase >>> NO conviction >>> NO Yanks on Aruba !!!

9:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BS....janssen involved in cover up too, probably having a to do with paulus.
auntie ....you protest tooo tooo much.

9:20 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

If Beth Bitch becomes too irritating we The Dutch will put our pumps in reverse in New Orleans.

9:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paulus is punching Janssen's pants? Wow! It makes sense.

9:34 PM  
Blogger Jan said...

I hope all is well with you

9:53 PM  
Blogger Jan said...

Joran, I really do hope things are improving for you. I have 3 sons similar ages to you and have been worrying about you and your family all summer. I even wrote your dear mother in Aruba to tell her that not everyone in the states is against you and your family. There are actually some of us that study the evidence and read a lot on line and have truly believed in your innocense. I hope that you are enjoying college in Holland. I also hope that your dad is still with you because I really do worry about that crazy Beth and what she might do next. Please becareful and I will keep you and your family in my prayers!

9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok that thread from the darkside is from the 1st of september, it is all stuff already hashed out, nothing new and no evidence of any kind worth mentioning.

Leave it to big bad Joe, He may have a past but when used for the good it is a nice thing to have in your corner.

Did you guys hear that Dave is the one that started that whole thing about the step cousins being in Aruba and the cops found out they never went to Aruba. Turns out they couldnt get the money to go. what an idiot.

9:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nancy Disgrace is on ranting and raving about gang rape, drugs and reading between the lines. Beth just doesn't know how the entire Van der Sloot could just pick and move to Holland, new house and all. Good Grief, I thought that the Van der Sloots owned an estate in Holland and had only been Aruba for a couple plus years.
Some American lawyers are saying that Joran should keep his mouth shut. Don't talk to anyone else about this. Because these people will take everything out of context and twist his statements in hopes that he will be re-arrested. Ole Nancy Disgrace would not even let guest speak when he said that A Current Affair was not going to able to pressure Aruba into re-arresting the boys, yep, Nancy just cut him off. She does not want to hear anything that might be a positive for the boys or Aruba.
Stay cool, Joran and please don't speak to another reporter or any strangers. Yes, just like Jan in another post says, not everyone in the USA is against you. We that are for you, pray that you'll be free from all of this soon. We hope that eventually you can somehow put this behind you and have a wonderful and productive life. Don't let the garbage and evil talk on here get to you.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth is not revealing her next move due to the Prime Minister paying close attention to her. Hey, maybe he has reading this blog too.

10:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I am proud to be an American, a Christian, and a truthful person. I take great merit in the fact that I have HIGH integrity. I bet Urine cannot say that ! Well he could, and believe it, cuz he IS a psycho !!

==============
Whatever you may be, a Christian you are not! That is clear by your comments.

10:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so dissapointed in the prime minister. I've traveled to aruba every year for the past 16 years and I will never go back! How can an American citizen feel safe in a country that is so corrupt. The people of aruba are so great, but the polititions are all snakes and to help out this boys father is just wrong. maybe the prime minister should let joran take his daughter out. Well at least we know joran will never come to the U.S.A. for fear of many many people wanting to hurt him. Chicken! His dad won't be able to help him here. Why on june 10th did they release a statement saying that the police were going to the crime scene? What crime scene ? and why didn't they do it?
It sends a very bad message out to people that if you go to aruba and something bad happens to you, nothing will ever be done about it. My family and I will not EVER go back until this case is solved.

10:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it common in the USA to write names wrong? Or does the people in the Southern states have a neurological disorder characterized by loss of the ability to read or understand the written word?

11:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Dutch need to carefully consider whether they really want to give Beth a VISA to go to the Netherlands. Why does she need to be there? To harass Joran and his family? To stalk? to create a drama and make accusations? This could be a dangerous situation for her. If she and Jug are allowed in, they should have a no contact restraining order against Joran and his family.

Seriously, I feel for her and her pain, but she could start losing it and do something really dangerous, maybe go postal.

11:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

leaving her alone on the beach. And the next statement that he gave is that he can point to the policemen where is the place that Deepak buried the body. So he was like telling that he knows that Deepak did it. He says that he can point to place exactly where Deepak Kalpoe buried the body. So actually ... so this was signed by all four policemen.”

“And given to the prosecutor for the justice system and not given to the court,” Jamie adds.

11:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IF Beth DOES go postal, it is ok. The severe, gut wrenching pain of losing a child is enormous. NO ONE knows that pain UNLESS they have LOST or BURIED a child, so be careful what u say !IF Beth had a body to bury, she could begin the grieving process naturally, but she is unable to, so I think under the severe, STRESSFUL events that she is coping the B E S T that she can under the circumstances. I, as a Mother, who grieved once for a child commend her on her determination to GET answers. I think whoever did this to Nat, NEVCER expected her to have a Mother so determined, dedicated, and driven to get answers. She is a role model for many ! I admire Beth and God bless her. I hope her pain is replaced with the true peace of Christ.

11:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:23 pm - CORRECTION ..the next statement that BETH THE LYING BITCH said is that Joran said this and admitted to that and Deepak admitted to this.

YOUR FUCKEN FBI 100% ABSOLUTELY DISCREDITED BETH. THE AMERICAN FBI CONCLUDED THAT BETH WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO BELIEVE THESE THINGS BUT IT IS UNTRUE AND BETH DOES NOT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE TO BACK UP ANYTHING SHE SAYS.

THE FBI RELEASED THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY CONFESSIONS. NONE.


Beth has constantly lied and fabricated and alleged things as facts but she has failed to show evidence of anything she has accused. Her own FBI has called her the most uncredible person and not to be trusted because she fabricates and is delusional.

GO TO THE SOURCE YANKS...contact the FBI

CONTACT THE FBI - Room 1400
2121 8th. Avenue N.
Birmingham, Alabama 35203-2396
birmingham.fbi.gov
(205) 326-6166

contact the Alabama Attorney General @ 334-242-7300 for all this public information.

But none of you yanks will contact them for the truth now will you? You know why?

BECAUSE YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

JORAN WINS AND BETH LOSES. BETH IS A LYING CUNT AND DESERVES ALL THAT KARMA THAT RETURNS TO HER TEN FOLD.

11:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep trashing the victim and her mother. None of us are as stupid as you blockhead of a Frankenstein ugly acne faced PIMP. The only idiots who play the blame the victim game are the guilty who think it will shift the blame off of them and who think the rest of us are as DUMB as blockhead urine and the cowpie brothers to not see such a stunt for what it is. Aruba stinks of Urine and now Holland does and we don't like the smell of urine. Guess that is not the only bodily smell Urine likes, Mr. Ass to Mouth. Shit, urine and the probably rolls on Daddy and in his sweat. Sick son of a bitch. The embarrassment of having such a pervert and one known publicly for his pervisions I can ALMOST feel sorry for wool over the eyes mommy Anita and sweaty pig flunking judge Poopus. But not quite. We will never ever quit backing this family. Go smoke your dope and frequent the Red Light District and leave the American girls alone Urine. Kill one of your own prostitutes, your women are used to being treated that way. Like nothing. There is something missing in this kid's makeup. YUCK!

11:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:44 pm.

Beth is a role model? haaaaaaaa Thanks for the laugh of the century.

Beth is a role model for:

Munchausen by Proxy
Multiple Personalities
Schizophrenia
Delusions
Pathological Liars Are US
Mothers from Hell
Mediawhores
Sinners against Christ
Bi-polar
Enemies of the State, and the world
Swinging Couples Aruba
Giving Safe Haven to Fugitive Twin Nephews
Fraud & Money Launders - pillaging millions
Deceving the Masses
Disgrace to the world

========

There is no evidence that Natalee is not alive so she should stop fucken media whoring and instead go look for her damn daughter who ran away with her black boyfriend that Beth forbid her to see. Beth knows why she ran away......that's why Beth inititally put out posters speaking directly to NAtalee to call her, that she wants to talk to her and isn't mad at her.

BETH KNOWS and you know what? BETH CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH.

It's ok we have faith in the ARuba system, the American FBI and Dave....Natalee's father will FIND THE TRUTH!!!!!!

Beth doesn't want the masses to know that the FBI is in Venezuela looking for a LIVING AND BREATHING HAPPY NATALEE.

BETH does not want Natalee found. If she is, Beth will be exposed as the bitch mother she is, and Bitch can't handle the truth!!!!!!!!!! So go kill yourself now cunt Beth!

11:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GO TO THE SOURCE YANKS...contact the FBI

CONTACT THE FBI - Room 1400
2121 8th. Avenue N.
Birmingham, Alabama 35203-2396
birmingham.fbi.gov
(205) 326-6166

contact the Alabama Attorney General @ 334-242-7300 for all this public information.

I challenge all you yankee doodle dandies to contact the FBI and Attorney General and show us the proof from them that backs Beth up. Come on yanks.......show us what your FBI has to say about Beth and this ADULT RUN AWAY case.

WE CHALLENGE YOU YANKS.....come on what are you waiting for?

YOU WANT THE TRUTH...YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!

11:59 PM  
Anonymous the reckoning said...

You can only fool some of the people some of the time Joran. You are who you are and I would be scared standing that close to you. Your kind are a dime a dozen and like all the rest you will be find out for the peasant that you really are. How did your family rise so much above their station in life? Your mother should be ashamed of herself for raising such a mysogynistic bastard.

Remember what you do to others will come back ten fold to you.I will be waiting patiently.

Any school that would accept the lies of you must be desperate for enrollment.

Please remember to check with daddy before responding on this blog. We would not want you two getting your lies wrong.

12:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, many people in America are waking up to the fact that Beth Twitty and the media has been less than honest (to put it mildly). We're not all mindless idiots like some who have posted here. We don't all believe you're guilty of a crime based on a mother's intuition. Since she can't back up any of her statements and is withholding "evidence" from law enforcement...it appears that she is more of a criminal than you are. I wish you all the best in Holland.

12:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"YOU WANT THE TRUTH...YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!"
Jack Nicholson does that line so much better.

12:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Definitely! D E F I N I T E L Y. No A in it, definitely not.

12:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After reading this I KNOW 1 thing
for sure and that is
that the Dutch who have left messages here and it is very obvious W H O they are when they write ~~~~~
the D U T C H are some of the MOST disgusting, heartless, malicious, uncaring people in this world. How dare u attack a grieving Mother. Might I add disrespectful ALL of u Dutch !

12:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What Beth does with Matt is NONE of your business, Tante Bet. Yup your journalistic qualities shine right through. And...cannot u try to rem. that what if Beth or someone from their family reads this ? Seriously u r so uncouth and disrespectful. What u call Beth, is you, you, TANTE BITCH !!!

12:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dutch children r too spaced out on their dope to kill parents. Mellow yellow everyday !

12:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Is it common in the USA to write names wrong? Or does the people in the Southern states have a neurological disorder characterized by loss of the ability to read or understand the written word?
11:06 PM

Or does the people in the Southern states . . .

CORRECTION: 'Or 'do' The People. . .'

You seem to have lost the ability to write correct English grammar yourself!

12:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:42 AM - WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT BETH OR HER FAMILY IF THEY READ THIS. They deserve all the harm and ill will that comes back to them 10 fold.

What about Joran or Deepaks family and the hurt they felt from all of Beth the fucken lying cunt whore lies, which the AMERICAN FBI confirmed Beth as being 100% lying about confessions that dont exist. THE FBI Backs up Joran because he told the truth and the FBI is in Venezuela looking for NATALEE that ran away with her black boyfriend from Alabama. Who was on the plane with her to ARuba and did not catch his flight back either. Beth said that Natalee is dead to her if she has sex with a black boy that Beth would NEVER ACCEPT him in her house so Natalee ran away with him. DEAL WITH IT BETH. You racist cunt. You are right Beth NAtalee is a smart girl because she ran away from you.....never to return.

12:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm...your daddy said: NO BODY, NO CASE???

Well, I say: NO PERSON, NO POWER, NO PLACE!!!

...on the face of this Earth, or elsewhere, can ever shelter you or your loved ones from the WRATH of a CUNNING and DEDICATED vengeance.

So, dear Joran, if indeed you may be guilty in this matter, please, I implore you, tell these people what you know, so you will no longer have to live under this ominous, menacing and growing shadow.

12:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Picking on little mistakes in the English language? Well, English is not my home language and guess what, I am not Dutch too. But that must be really hard for you yanks to understand, because living your whole life with just ONE braincell isn't easy. So you are excused, retard!

12:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Killing parents is common in the US?? Where do you get this stupid shit you come up with? You just grab the most inane crap out of the air and spew it out. Only a MORON who knows nothing about the US would say something like that. Most American parents dote on their kids, and the kids enjoy the lifestyle their parents shower on them. They might complain as teenagers are apt to do, but they aren't likely to give up their cars and game systems, etc. Life with Mom and Dad has its perks.

1:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about Joe Mamanna who has turned his life around and is a great example ?

What about the slime YOUR ARUBAN country gave a welcome and residency to ??

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! AVE MARIA !











September 28, 2005
HarryTho Tuesday Night Natalee Holloway Update And Commentary (Updated)
Topics: Natalee Holloway

Here we are on another night, and another MSM spin cycle - still looking for that elusive hint of truth as to what has really happened to Natalee.

Scared Monkeys has posted an article in which Dave Holloway discounts the statements made by Joran van der Sloot in his ambush-interview with Current Affair. Dave also seems to be backing Beth Twitty in many of her comments. Of course, all Dave's comments have the caveat that he is privy to more information than the media. This is the same line given to the National Enquirer by TJ Ward. Though their reservations on releasing pertinent information
may be genuine, their past revelations, a la Josie Mansur, have left doubts.

Also, as a reminder, an old game may be surfacing in Natalee's disappearance. Whenever a kid from the poor-side-of-town gets into trouble, his lawyer will always try to connect or associate blame with a kid from the rich-side-of-town. In that way, there will be political pressure applied to the prosecution and the politically-appointed judiciary to dismiss the case.

Clearly, Joran and Deepak are two different personalities. Dr. Phil and other accredited commenters have been quick to identify Deepak's macabre tendencies. Joran, on the other hand, seems relegated to lying. If we can judge anything, we should trust the initial instincts of the three Alabama teenage girls, friends of Natalee, whom Greta interviewed in Birmingham at the consecration wall for Natalee. Their appraisal of Joran was evident in the Current Affair ambush-interview. Despite the Twitty-Holloway "inconsistencies-extravaganza" default setting, Joran was, in fact, the same teenage boy that the Alabama teens described.

Maybe Joran is perceived as lying, because he cannot control Deepak's statements. Joran may want to tell the truth, but Deepak is blackmailing him with something ... maybe it is something simple, like Satish and I will say you raped and killed Natalee.

Also, let us not forget that Deepak communicated regularly with Steve Croes. Steve Croes was seen breaking into the Fisherman's Huts on the night of Natalee's disappearance. And, for no reason, Steve Croes agreed to lie about the Holiday Inn drop-off. Steve Croes has access to a motorized, inflatable Zodiac (inflatable boat), tied up at the Marriott pier. Joran's guess that Deepak may have returned for Natalee, after Joran left her alone on the beach could be correct. Deepak could have brought Steve Croes (a Curacaon) with him.

Moving on in a similar spin cycle, in this article we have Beth in default mode...

However, Greta brings us a changup, and actually has some things of interest to us.

Greta at Fox News interviewed Current Affair reporter, Jerry Wagschal, and Jug Twitty.

Jerry Wagschal reported that he tracked down Joran van der Sloot in Arnheim where he was attending school. Jerry admitted planning his interview with Joran when he was alone without his father. He interviewed Joran for 20 minutes alone and 10 minutes with Paulus van der Sloot present. Jerry stated that he was pleased with the interview, since he got to cover a lot of topics. The only confrontation occurred when they were about to leave, because Paulus wanted to view the entire interview. Jerry refused to allow Paulus or Joran to view the interview.

Jerry only mentioned two alarming revelations: 1) Joran admitted that the three agreed to lie about the real drop-off, and 2) Joran's statement that their meeting was Natalee's doing. Jerry, lowering his eyes from the Fox News camera, stated that he had experienced this victim mentality in prior instances in which he interviewed criminal conduct.

Greta aired excepts from the video taping of the interview. One of particular interest was Joran statement that the prosecution has not come up with one bit evidence that any of the three were involved in this disappearance in any manner. Joran admitted giving a DNA sample. He said that his DNA did not match the DNA on Natalee's toothbrush. Joran wanted to know just whose DNA was found on Natalee's toothbrush.

Jug Twitty commented on the recent meeting between Dave Holloway and Karin Janssen, and he enlightened Greta as to why he is so upset with Karin Janssen, the prosecutor. This interview, despite its default into the typical Twitty-Holloway response, provided some insights never before discussed. First, Jug stated that he felt that there was nothing satisfying that emerged from Dave's four-hour meeting with Janssen. Greta then queried Jug over his dissatisfaction with Janssen. Jug revisited a heated discussion with Janssen on 28 August, the last time Janssen spoke with Beth or Jug. Jug commenced with a disagreement with Janssen over the issue of whether or not that blood was discovered in the suspects' car. Jug insisted that the FBI stated that there was blood in the car. Janssen retorted that the alleged blood was in fact cleaning fluid. Jug vehemently disagreed with Janssen. Second, Jug spoke of three American witnesses who overheard implicating statements made by the suspects: Joran and Deepak. These statements, Jug says, were ignored by the Aruban investigators. According to Jug, Janssen told them to get sworn statements from these witnesses in the USA. Jug said they got a federal judge to take the statements; however, Janssen refuses to return calls to Jug and Beth concerning what to do with these statements.

Now comes the fun part. Jug was stunned when Janssen revealed family problems with Natalee. Jenssen questioned the $1 Million life insurance policy taken out on Natalee. Further contestation led to queries by Jenssen about Jug's brother's money laundering activities. At this point, Jug admitted that he is high strung. However, he feels that Jenssen is either hiding or has no backbone.

Jug takes a few breaths, then continues with the statement that Jenssen will not admit that she erred when releasing the three suspects. He ridicules her response that they were trying to catch the three red-handed exposing the crime. Jug chuckles that their entire, nine-day, surveillance effort of the three suspect produced absolutely nothing.

I believe Jug's statements during this interview with Greta provide some revelation into where the prosecution is headed. First, the idea of a Natalee-originated disappearance is being taken seriously. The prosecution places little credibility in opinions of Beth or Jug, and possibly then the entire Twitty-Holloway camp. The fact that no evidence of any kind was collected after nine days of surveillance and three months of incarceration certainly hint at the innocence of at least Joran and Paulus van der Sloot, and possibly the Kalpoe brothers. And, lastly, whose DNA is on Natalee's toothbrush?

Comment: When providing a sworn statement to a foreign country, an apistle sp?) is the document required for authentication of the sworn statement. It has to do with the United States being separated into 50 states. The Apistle (sp?) certifies to other countries that the person "notorizing" the sworn statment is in fact authorized and certifed to do so. Usually, the LT Governor or Governor of the state in which the person making the sworn statement resides signs an apistle (sp?). This apistle (sp?) may be the hold up with the sworn statements to be provided to the Aruban authorities.

More to come as available ...

In the meanwhile, let's regress a moment to the matter of Michael Posner, who in my book, is or should be "a person of interest," if not at least a "very interesting person" relative to Natalee's disappearance.

A reader wrote:

What about Michael Posner at the Excelsior Casino? The Posner Group reportedly owns hotels and casinos on Aruba, Curacao and throughout the Caribbean. Is Aruba’s Michael Posner the same Michael Posner that is an Associate of the Chicago “Outfit?” Is he still on parole, and is he still doing “business as usual?”

Do Posners still own businesses in Miami, Florida? If so, is that why Paulus van der Sloot, soon to be without judge-in-training income, recently visited Miami?

Or was Paulus’ Miami visit in direct relation to the “disappearance” of Natalee Holloway and his currently imprisoned primary “suspect” son Joran? Did Paulus schedule a Miami meeting to arrange financing for son Joran’s defense? Or was Paulus possibly summoned to Miami to discuss a quick resolution to this case? Some special interests would like the FBI, other investigators and the media gone from Aruba, so business as usual can get back to normal again.

Is it true that Joran van der Sloot has a line of credit at the Excelsior on Aruba and possibly in other casinos, and is Joran really a drug dealer or runner for Ponser? Could that be why Joran has so much money and/or that line of credit? He gets a lot of money and credit from somewhere. Could Joran van der Sloot, who reportedly is an amateur gambler and loses often, be playing and losing big to help the Posners launder money? And is Dutch pappa Paulus van der Sloot in on the laundering scheme, too?

And what happened to that Excelsior Casino Manager who “vanished” about the same time that Natalee Holloway “disappeared?”

Well, where do we begin? have emailed you many researches on Michael Posner and his associates.

NOW THIS IS THE FIRST CLASS PEOPLE ARUBAN HAS LIVING THERE WORKING FOR THEM......hmmmmmm

From my research, if Michael Posner was awiseguy or an associate for/of street boss Michael "Mickey" Marcello, then Posner was connected to Trafficanti, the gambling boss of Havana Cuba. To make a long story short, Michael Posner runs the Excelsior Casino on behalf of the Chicago mob or more correctly organized crime.

LABORERS-CHICAGO OUTFIT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART

In the chart, I believe, the title "associate" refers to a made-man in the mob. I am assuming that you understand mob talk.

Michael Posner's story: Acting through his underboss, Rocco Ernest Infelise, head of one of the largest "street crews" in Chicago, Ferriola directed Jahoda to lure 51-year-old Robert Heyden Plummer to the outfit's elegantly appointed "Murder Mansion" in northern Libertyville Township. The secluded Lake County mansion in the woods once belonged to a local millionaire, Bruce Rouse, and his wife, Darlene, until they were brutally murdered in 1980. Their case was never solved. The mob bought up acreage and spent $50,000 converting the former residence into a high stakes casino that employed eighteen full-time people to accommodate the gambling high rollers and fun- loving clientele who parked their cars in the rear. Reportedly, the outfit raked in $400,000 for just fifteen nights of casino gambling. According to Jahoda, political protection was supplied by former Lake County Sheriff Tom Brown, whose elected term spanned 1978 - 1982.

The Murder Mansion was an appropriate setting for what Rocky Infelise had in mind. He told the skittish Jahoda a few short hours before a well-planned murder to lead the unsuspecting Bobby Plummer up the flight of stairs to the second-floor casino and "just keep going." Plummer was a "revenue collector" for Ferriola, and a gambler of long standing in the northern suburbs. He also operated the Front Runner Messenger Service, a horse-betting parlor in Highwood belonging to Michael Posner, a protégé of Ferriola and a kingpin in Lake County mob vice operations. Plummer, of north suburban Lake Forest, was attacked on the stairway and savagely beaten to death. His body was found in the trunk of his wife's Lincoln Continental in a Mundelein Holiday Inn parking lot. Jahoda still cannot forget the horrible death cries of Plummer as he was dispatched from this world.
Good Ship Lollipop: Part 1: Murder. Extortion and Loan Sharking.

Posner was involved in "Good Ship Lollipop," the gang term for Chicago street mob (Joe "Oscar" Ferriola gang) that captured the gambling operations. Posner ran gambling and prostitution establishments in Chicago. It is a good bet his resume in Chicago is being utilized in the Caribbean.

That's my quick stab at some of the reader's questions, the rest we'll get to later.

Update: One side note - Jug works for Phoenix Metals Company. I am unsure how he is connected to the McWayne company, other than the Director-at-large position. It was the McWayne jet that took Beth to Aruba. And from Riehl World View, Jug is a director-at-large for the Metal Services Center Institute. Jug went to the same school as some of the Mansur family, now living in Aruba and working for the Dairio newspaper (also has some other case trivia).

Since Dan has brought up some case trivia, and since we've spoken of the Chicago connection with Michael Posner, our casino manager in Aruba, would you believe that "$250,000.00 average profit can be made from one woman in Chicago?"

Posted for HarryTho

Posted by Richard at September 28, 2005 12:14 AM


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When we got back from Rita evacuation, I received a vanilla cardstock from Beth Holloway Twitty, dated September 22nd:

"...for Natalee"
I want to thank you for reaching out to me in my time of crisis. Like you, many people have offered their prayers and asked how they can help. Please consider refraining from travel to Aruba and other Dutch territories, whether by air or cruise ship, just until Natalee is returned to me. Thank you again for your love and continuing support which have sustained me.
Sincerely, Beth Twitty, Natalee's Mom

I have written about 4 cards to Beth and sent them to Aruba to encourage her. This is the first response that I have received.

Posted by: molly at September 28, 2005 10:38 AM

The tootbrush was not Natalee's, it was her roommate's , Beth said it on the interview last night ....pay attention

Posted by: Jillian in Boston at September 28, 2005 11:16 AM

Jillian:

If the police received authorization to acquire a DNA sample from anyone because of this toothbrush, it would have to have been positively identified as belonging to Natalee.

Jug's revelations about the Aruban prosecutor not communicating with the Twittys seems relevant to your post.

With Aloha,

Harry

Posted by: harry at September
Well, enough said, Michael Posner, who else will the USA expose next ? GREAT guy to work with the 1000's of tourists. Great guy to walk among your children and families ?????? 'Nuff said !!!

1:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:53 am

you wrote: Hmmm...your daddy said: NO BODY, NO CASE???

No stupid yank. THE ONLY PERSON WHO SAID THAT HIS DADDY SAID THAT WAS BETH & JUG.

THE FBI CONFIRMED THAT WAS A COMPLETE FABRICATION CREATED AND SPREAD BY BETH.

Remember DUMBASS YANKS - THE FBI has declared that Beth does not have evidence to back up anything she has alleged...because it doesn't exist.


Personally I think that is what JUg said to Thomas & Hunter Twitty when something bad happened, and he got Jossy to help hide the body til Jug's buddies private plane arrived to flee the rapist Twitty twins off Aruba.

YOU YANK RETARDS CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!

AMERICAN FBI BACKS UP THE INNOCENT JORAN & DEEPAK. FBI DEEMED BETH UNCREDIBLE AND 100% FABRICATES STORIES AND WANTS PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THEM AS FACT WHEN THEY ARE NOT.

1:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now tell me that Aruba has no shady characters ? The USA did not want him, b u t ARUBA welcomed him ! Posner was perfect to aid Aruba's corruption !!

1:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:01 AM Most American parents dote on their kids

Yes most American parents dote on their kids. Doting = fondling and sexually assaulting their kids. There are millions of pedophiles in the USA ....all sexually abusing their kids. Go look at the statistics yank of how many kids child protective services takes away from an unfit home in USA. 1 EVERY 4 seconds!!!!!

1:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the Menendez brothers yanks? Spoiled rich boys killing mommy and daddy!!!!!!

1:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yup.....NO PERSON, NO POWER, NO PLACE!!!

1:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

u had a man beheaded recently on your little island.....hmmm yup the menedez bros. did murder their parents. that happens here. the size of usa and dutch territories is no comparison. population vs population we are bound to have more crime, especially cuz we have so many of your immigrants, corrupt murders, etc.....

and...human services here does protect its children. what about your pedophiles ? oh most of them are work in the red light district, and young ones too. u cannot handle the truth...michael posner read it and weep dutch bastards, every one of u !!!!!!!!ARUBA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

USA IS # 1

1:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YUP and u have a rich Aruban boy killing an American tourist over a piece of ass. Yea Aruba, u suck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ARUBA SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on people, let us all lighten up a bit! Don't fight.... Here, I will tell you a joke so you can relax....

Beth : "I dreamt they were auctioning off dicks. The big ones went for ten dollars and the thick ones went for twenty dollars."

Jug: "How about the ones like mine?"

Beth: "Those they gave away."

Jug: "I had a dream too...I dreamt they were auctioning off cunts. The pretty ones went for a thousand dollars, and the little tight ones went for two thousand."

Beth: "And how much for the ones like mine?"

Jug: "That's where they held the auction."

1:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOOD ONE!!!!!!!! Haaaaaaaaaaaaa

1:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:24 am.......that is the most truthful and funniest thing I have heard since May 30th!!!!!

Brilliant!!! thanks for the laugh :)

1:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your a punk Joran! You need to pop your zits. The pimps stand for Joran's pimples!

1:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LIVE IT UP JORAN VAN DER COCKSUCKER. YOU HAVE A DATE WITH DESTINY.
I SMILE JUST THINKING THAT YOUR NEVER GOING TO SEE IT COMING, AND THE ONLY THING DADDY WILL BE ABLE TO DO IS PLANT YOUR BODY.
THAT I KNOW HE IS GOOD AT. SO LONG SUCKER.

VENGENCE

1:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JORAN...IF YOU NEED HELP, DO CONTACT THE FBI OR US STATE DEPT, WE DO HAVE A WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM.....

2:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IS THAT WHERE NATALEE IS? IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM SO SHE IS SAFE AWAY FROM PSYCHO BETH. I KNEW IT......ITS TRUE!! NATALEE AND HER BLACK BOYFRIEND ARE ALIVE AND SAFE AND HAPPY AND PROTECTED AWAY FROM BETH. HEY WAIT A MINUTE......in the current affair interview who was that black guy with Joran's dad in the background. IS THAT NATALEE's BOYFRIEND? IS HOLLAND PROTECTING NATALEE AND HER BLACK BOYFRIEND?BRAVO!!!!! Way to go Holland.

2:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SOMEBODY PLEASE TEACH JORAN HOW TO WRITE IN ENGLISH!!!!!!!!

3:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CALL VALENTIJN 5618230

3:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CALL VALENTIJN 5618230

3:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DEAR KARIN JANSSEN,
YOUR A DIRTY ROTTEN CORRUPT ARUBAN PROSECUTER WITH NO INTEGIRITY, NO COMPASSION & NO BACK BONE.
HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH YOUR SELF KNOWING YOUR HAVE SOLD YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL?
HOW MUCH DID YOU GET PAID TO DERAIL THIS INVESTIGATION? IN THE END WILL IT HAVE BEEN WORTH IT.

I PERSONALLY HOPE SOME ONE ON YOUR FUCKED UP ISLAND KILLS YOU AND MY OMLY WISH IS THAT THEY TAKE THERE TIME. NO NEED TO RUSH IT, I JUST WANT TO HEAR THAT YOU SUFFERED JUST LIKE THE HOLLOWAY'S HAVE SUFFERED BY YOU NOT DOING YOUR JOB.

YOU MUST BE ONE MISERABLE SOCIOPATHIC CUNT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR EVERY MORNING & NOT WANT TO PUT A BULLET IN YOUR OWN BRAIN FOR WHAT YOU HAVE BECOME.

NOTE: COME TO AMERICA, I WANT YOU TO MEET MY LITTLE FRIEND.

3:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The world is aware that the $1,000,000.00 reward for these three has been deposited in a Swiss bank. The police in Aruba turned them loose so they too will have shot at the big prize. They were of no value incarcerated. They could hire Secret Service to protect them, but the task would be much too dangerous for anyone to accept. There in a category now with Bin Laden, and they are publishing their addresses and smiling for the cameras even more arrogantly than before. This is one naive group of individuals. I tried to purchase a life insurance policy in Urine's name through AIG (one of the largest in the world) and the company flatly refused.

4:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth please let us see those documents for ourselves. Scan and post those documents on the internet. Let us all see them. Now why after all this time does that toothbrush suddenly belong to someone else? I am sorry that your child is missing, but please have a little class and stop venting your anger and actually start looking for her.

6:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Go Jordan!!! You have a very adult mature attitude!! Hold your head of high and do not sink to these loosers levels. That why they are where they are!!

You Go Jordan!!!!

6:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"please have a little class and stop venting your anger"

considering the posts on this site, that's the funniest thing written here in days

6:55 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

"....Laat ze lullen die stomme idote kutamerikanen...."

Zo zou ik er graag nog een schepje bovenop willen doen, wat betreft deze shitheads, die nu ook een onderwijsinstelling die niets met deze zaak van doen heeft lastig te vallen met hun k...mailtjes. De mentaliteit en het niveau is werkelijk boven alle begrip gestegen!

(translation?? Try it yourselves, as you seem to be so intelligent)

7:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the exception of tante bet, river_52 and a few other intelligent bloggers the rest of you AND B. Twitty, as an old southern lady said once, "AIN'T GOT NO FUCKIN'CLASS!"

7:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And don't come back with a double negative makes a positive. I do not want to hear it.
Joran, and Kalpoes are innocent!
Beth is guilty of letting her emotions rule her. She is not cool.

7:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holand allow students go naked in gyms. When my brother and me went for a volley ball match, the older Dutch lady asked me to be her accomplice which means she wanted me and her both females go naked to distract our opponent team. We did it. I don't have a thing on me. My brother thought I was silly. We won the volley ball match anyway.

8:11 AM  
Blogger ChinbeardXIV said...

With no evidence of anything dastardly being done, there's really no reason for anyone to be trashing anyone, any country, or anything...honest...

8:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran can go naked to show he is an innocent baby!

8:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Van der Sloot means "in the ditch"
appropriate don't you think?

8:57 AM  
Blogger JUSTICElady said...

Joran, you are a fine looking young man. Just trust in God,
do what is right from this day
forward and all will be well with
your soul. I think Beth Twitty of
course is a hurting mother, but at
the same time she has created total
chaos for YOU and ARUBA. Remember,
the world is watching your every move so show them what you are, a
teenage college student doing normal teen things. Get your degree and I know you will go far in life.
A friend in North Carolina, USA
God Bless you Joran.

9:29 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Wakey, wakey Yanks, time for your daily bashing :)

Now lets analyse one of 'your brightest'....



"leaving her alone on the beach. And the next statement that he gave is that he can point to the policemen where is the place that Deepak buried the body. So he was like telling that he knows that Deepak did it. He says that he can point to place exactly where Deepak Kalpoe buried the body. So actually ... so this was signed by all four policemen.”

“And given to the prosecutor for the justice system and not given to the court,” Jamie adds."



See the point is.... signed by 4 policemen, so that makes it their admission, NOT Jorans. Joran never admitted to anything like it, why shopuld he ? It is not true. The police wrote up the story and tried to make Joran confess to that scenario, however a son of a lawyer is not that stupid, he never signed it.

What next ? You want him to sign off on Beth Bitch her fantasies ??

And no false statements are not given to the court by policemen.... that would cost them their job and personally I think policemen that do so should spend time in jail -don't bend over now to pick up your soap-

And anyway we have a decent lawsystem that has evolved beyond the US KKK menatlity of hanging the first (white) nigger you like to accuse....

ONLY the last statement, with all corrections is admissable to the court !!

All previous statements are null & void, per definition !!!!


Have a nive day now !
Do your homework try to get above <80 IQ points

and....

Stay out of ARUBA !! NO Yanks on ARUBA !!

9:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bij SM hebben ze een 'site meter', zo kunnen ze precies zien wie van waar inlogt. Zo hebben ze ook gezien, dat 'iemand' uit Arnhem, Gelderland op 'bezoek' was.

Het is maar dat je het weet.

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tante, you are one fucked up asshole. You need to get laid or something. True, you are responsible for fucking up the investigation for being stupid but to lash out at america is ridiculous. You should have admitted you were over your head and had the FBI do your job for you. Karin, you are one fucked up lady. I feel sorry for you.

10:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, it's not your fault. We see you inherited the chicken-shit personality from your dad. Perhaps if your dad would have had any honor and values you wouldnt be in this mess. Must be terrible to be known around the world as a murderer and coward. Don't worry, in time you and your dad will get what's coming. In the mean time, I wish you well and hope you catch VD.

10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran give up, tell the truth...only u know. Even if it was an accident, Beth needs to have her daughter Natalee back alive or hate to say this dead. She needs to bring her back home and go on with her life. Please Joran come on, tell the truth only you know. Locate the body also so Natalee won't be alone and brought back to her family Please, It's so sad to feel that the family of Natalee can't rest on this and not knowing where their daughter is.
Please think about it.

10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For my two cents worth: Joran drugged Natalee in Carlos and Charlies. Drugs are readily available to him "back home," and he may even been working with the bartender. When she lost good judgement he lured her to the car. Shortly after that Joran raped her. As they had done in the past, the niggers got leftovers. Since all three admitted raping her, I assume Deepak was last. She may have been returning somewhat to consciousness by this time, and when a white girl from Alabama has been with a black she is contaminated to the point the church wouldn't let her back. She was sick, terrified, in shock and still under the influence of Joran's drug. Deepak probably strangled her to shut her up. They buried her by the cabin they discussed. Taking their problem to Honorable Judge Van der Sloot, he directed them to accuse the doormen at a local hotel. This gave several days to return and properly dispose of her body.
To be a Judge in Aruba merely means you protect the drug smugglers from the south enroute to North America. In that position he would be familiar with men that could dispose of her body. Joran could not get an attractive, blonde, American girl without drugs. This is second only to pedophiles that injure little babys. A judges son on a small island running with two niggers, one is a waitress at a coffee shop? Even the Aruban teens had nothing to do with him. Paulus knew that Joran was guilty of murder, because he drugged her, took her away from the safety of her group, raped her, and threw her out like a discarded rubber. By turning her over to the niggers, who actually did kill her, Joran is as guilty as they are. If he would have told the truth in the beginning, Paulus would be ousted before he became an official judge, Joran would go to prison, and the van der Sloot family would essentially be completly devastated, just like Natalee's family are now. Paulus has convinced Joran it was not his fault, and the arrogance that we see is actually just Joran's trust in his Daddy-to protect him. So how will this end? My guess:no trace of Natalee's body, a certain death for the three paid for with money already deposited, and Van der Sloot's living in discrace forever. This is such a nightmare everyone is upset. If my son came to me with the same situation, I would have done the same thing Paulus did. The only twist I'm not ruling out yet is the possibility Deepak did not kill her. They all three raped her, they admitted that much. But I'm not ruling out she may have been raped four times that morning. And by that time she was really coming around, and her attacker panicked. Who is the fourth? Paulus van der Sloot. He took Joran drinking and gambling with him, trying to be a really "cool dude." These guys are rapists, so they would not have a problem sharing a beautiful American girl with their good buddy who says he can get them out of any problem. Regardless, I feel badly for the younger brother. The parents are no good, they raised a rapist. Joran is a insignificant wimpering turd, or he wouldn't have to drug women to go out with him.

10:54 AM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"Bij SM hebben ze een 'site meter', zo kunnen ze precies zien wie van waar inlogt. Zo hebben ze ook gezien, dat 'iemand' uit Arnhem, Gelderland op 'bezoek' was."

Wat is SM ? Ken ik niet.... site management ?
Maakt ook niet uit, want a. ik kom niet uit Arnhem en als ik wil kan ik via een proxy gateway overal vandaan komen :)
Meestal gebruik ik wat Duitse universiteiten....

Maar daarnaast wil dat nog niet zeggen dat Joran inlogt, ik denk zeker dat er mensne in Arnhem zijn die nieuwschierig geworden door het verhaal op internet aan het zoeken zijn. Bv zijn klasgenoten....


"Het is maar dat je het weet."

Nogmaal ik ken de hele familie Van Der Sloot niet, niemand ook geen kennissen van... of zoiets, dus zou ook niet weten waar het op slaat.

" Anonymous said...

For my two cents worth: Joran "


Homework done ? Not yet I see your IQ is still Yankee average <80 points :(


Nat'lee is alittle slut making porn flicks in Caracas #3. out soon "Nat'lee does the Twitty Twins"

11:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:53 AM
Anonymous said...
Hmmm...your daddy said: NO BODY, NO CASE???

Well, I say: NO PERSON, NO POWER, NO PLACE!!!

...on the face of this Earth, or elsewhere, can ever shelter you or your loved ones from the WRATH of a CUNNING and DEDICATED vengeance.

WELL SAID!!!!!!!!

11:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Wat is SM ? Ken ik niet.... site management ?"

www.scaredmonkeys.com denk ik? Maar kom ook niet uit Arnhem, zoals zovelen hier. Trouwens, het is gewoon te dom om te denken dat alle idote berichtjes hier van Joran afkomen. Ik geloof zelfs dat het hem zijn reet zal roesten (ja, ga dat maar eens vertalen! hahaha!) wat sommige amerikanen hier zeggen.

11:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to Go Joran...we knew you were innocent. I hope you enjoy a long and happy life! We knew you were innocent because Americans lie all the time!

Woo-hoo for Van Der Sloot!

11:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A BIG FUCK YOU TO ALL THE IGNORANT, RETARDED SOCIOPATHS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE PREDITOR, RAPIST, MURDERER JORAN VAN DER COCK SUCKER.
ONLY A FUCKED UP PERSON WITH NO COMPASSION & NO REASONING SKILLS COULD BACK THIS SICK, DEMENTED, SOCIOPATHIC, RAPING MURDERER. ALL OF YOU MUST BE JUST LIKE HIM TO BE RELATING TO HIM & HIS CRIMES AGAINST AN INNOCENT YOUNG GIRL. SHE NEVER ASKED TO BE RAPED & KILLED, REMEMBER THAT YOU SICK COCK SUCKERS.

NOTE: JUST A THANK YOU TO ALL THAT ARE STALKING JORAN & THE KALPOE'S WITH INTENT TO KILL THEM. ALL OF AMERICA & THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ARUBA STAND BY YOUR SIDE. THE SIDE OF JUSTICE FOR ALL EVEN FOR THE RAPIST MURDERING SON OF A WANT TO BE JUDGE.

REMEMBER, 1 SHOT 1 KILL

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We knew you had nothing to do with the Holloway girl's disappearance. Behind you 100% Joran!
Anti-Joran commentators are sore losers who should go to Aruba and look for Natalee instead of questioning poor Joran's innocence!

Live a long and enjoyable life Joran!

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is innocent and free! We knew it all the time. Loser americans...all you can think of is killing people like Joran! It wouldn't surprise me if an American killed natalee and tried to blame the locals!

11:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope Beth holloway goes to the Netherlands so the proper authorities can lock her up for defaming Joran and the poor Kalpoe boys.

Her daugther is undoubtedly prostituting her body for drugs in some sleazy South American city, but Beth would never believe that.

Celebrate Jorans' freedom and innocence!

A pox on those who doubt Joran's innocence!

11:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will send Western Union $1000 US dollars to the first person who accurately provides the:
Name-
Address-
Phone-
Description-
Email address-
Any other useful information-
On blogger using name
Tante Bet

11:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poor Joran...what you had to put up with the Twitty family! No young person should ever have to put up with such pestering. Aruban law vindicated you, and that's good enough for this Tennessee boy!

12:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We pray the one day soon one of the three suspects and or Jorans parents will speak the truth of what happened to Natalee, the world knows that they had something to do with it and they all have to live with that for the rest of their lives.

12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez, I'd prefer it if Natalee would get out of her Caracas whorehouse and come forward to speak the truth about what happened to her.

12:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blessed Jesus:

we pray for Joran and the Kalpoe brothers, who had to live through vile accusations and callous aspersions on their good character, and who stood tall through it all to be vindicated under the rule of law. Thank you Jesus, bless you!

12:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran: I would gladly allow you to date my 17-year old daughter. you seem to be a fine, upstanding young man, but I think the propaganda job done by the American media has done you and the Kalpoe's a great disservice.

you should sue Beth Twitty for her perpetual interference in your life.

I wish you a long and prosperous life.

Florida Mom

12:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why won't Joran let us view his whole MSN site? What is his favorite music? Is it American?
Probably. Tupac was American.
So let's have it Joran, why won't you let us see your full site?

12:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You loser Joran supporters can go to hell!!!! Especially you, Florida mom! What kind of mother are you?

Wrapped in the Red, White and Blue

12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wrapped in the red, White and Blue:

Are you sure your name is correct? Shouldn't it be "Warped in the Red, White or Blue"

Pieter

12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops..excuse me last post. George W. Bush's online name is "Warped in the Red, White and Blue".

I stand corrected.

Pieter

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Joran!

Eat shit and die. You will pay for the rape and death of Natalee, either now or later; the truth will out.

Strong letter to follow.

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I will send Western Union $1000 US dollars to the first person who accurately provides the:
Name- Tante Bet
Address- Janbobbeleskontesteeg 666
Phone- 0031 0900118
Description- Wife of Ome Jan
Email address- tantebet@hotmail.com
Any other useful information- Ome Jan is a very rich Dutch guy who pay's our vacations (ask Willeke Alberti) just like Sicilian Joe does for Beth.
On blogger using name
Tante Bet"

Can I have the cash now please?

12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, to add my two cents in, I can't help but feel that if Beth Holloway had brought up her daughter in the Christian faith, none of this terrible mess would have happened.

you need not look any further beyond that fact that Beth has married more than once in her life. what kind of message of fidelity does that send to a young girl? Yes...we're Christian, but mommy wants another man.

If Natalee had a proper upbringing and didn't go to Aruba looking to sow some wild oats, then this whole, sad episode would be the product of a dime novel.

12:35 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

I will send Western Union $1000 US dollars to the first person who accurately provides the:
Name-
Address-
Phone-
Description-
Email address-
Any other useful information-
On blogger using name
Tante Bet

11:58 AM


WOW, thats easy yankee $$ :)
Put it in escrow and I will provide you with all & full info !

12:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it amusing that the anti-Joran posters cannot maintain a proper online decorum by having to resort to foul language, while the pro-Joran posters seem calm, refrained and rationale.

I guess this is the gist of the entire Holloway affair...the Americans get up in arms and fly off the handle at the slightest rumor, while everyone else sits back and waits for justice to take its course.

Rule Britannia

12:38 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

www.scaredmonkeys.com denk ik? Maar kom ook niet uit Arnhem, zoals zovelen hier. Trouwens, het is gewoon te dom om te denken dat alle idote berichtjes hier van Joran afkomen. Ik geloof zelfs dat het hem zijn reet zal roesten (ja, ga dat maar eens vertalen! hahaha!) wat sommige amerikanen hier zeggen.

11:26 AM


Ach ik schijn zowel Anita, als Janssen als een Tante van als xyz te zijn :)

Ik ben ik, maar voor die $1,000 geef ik graag alle info. :)

12:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should send Beth Holloway to Iraq to find some of our missing servicemen and women.

12:40 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Hi Brit :)

I try to balance out the Yankees....

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:35 PM
Come now, we don't know the circumstances of Beth's/Dave's divorce! How can you assume it was just because Beth wanted a different man?! ~ I will agree that if Beth had been this involved in Natalee's life while she was alive, the "Aruba trip" (agreed: bad idea!) may have been avoided. Beth would have seen the danger in letting Nat go unsupervised--or may have chaperoned it herself. The "chaperones" that accompanied that trip were USELESS as far as I can tell! But to equate the divorce with a lack of Christian instruction--seems harsh... Look @ the Vandersloots! They are "together" but hardly a good example!

12:43 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"We should send Beth Holloway to Iraq to find some of our missing servicemen and women."


They are dead !
=====

PS They also had NO business in Iraq, remember WMD ?
Another lie by the Bush fam. remember ? "Read my lips.....NO new taxes".

Hahaha.....

Or Clinton to balance the political order... "I had no sexual relations with THAT woman, Miss Lewinsky"

Ask Beth Bitch what the definition of sex, sexual assault is, accoring to het it a kiss :)

Morons wake up !

12:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Balance out the Yankees? Come now, Tante, you write as though Americans actually care about anyone else.

You need look no further than New Orleans to see that Americans only really care about each other when they are of European descent.

Besides, we can't call them "stupid" or "retarded" because that would be a gross insult to stupid and retarded people.

Rule Britannia

12:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:35 p.m:

You are right about not knowing the certainties behind Beth's first marriage and her current one.

That can be chalked up to uninformed opinion.

But then again, so can all the accusations Beth has cast at the Kalpoes and Joran.

so i guess we are back at zero.

Hank Williams

12:50 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

OK Brit, I apologise to you & the "stupid" / "retarded" :)

Why is it that both Holloway, Dave & Holloway twitty Twat (Beth) cannot make a sentence without at least wtice saying "You Know"... ?

No I do not, is what is on my lips as an answer all the time....

PS & OT;
I had a great time in Oxford (1971-1974) best time of my life. I still love going back to the UK :)

12:53 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

wtice = twice (for the spelling police).

12:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:57 PM
Your joke is revolting. Why are you appealing to the meanness of Tante Bet?!

I guess it's true: Birds of a Feather flock together!

1:14 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Good one Brit :)
LOL

You think that we will have to explain it the the Yankees ?

I am pleased to see that you are educated as well "adieu" a French word.... we (Dutch) use a lot of French words for nuances.

1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad the joke has been removed. I thought it rather amusing.

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Too bad the joke has been removed. I thought it rather amusing."

For that fact, I see a lot of messages dissapear here, outside of the foul language some USA citizen put here towards Joran, the Dutch ann Aruban people... Mmmmmmmmmmmmm...... makes you wonder huh?

1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oi! Where would YOU be now if we Europeans would put you there on that big island of teh USA. Learn your history... retard!

1:40 PM

You put who where? Learn my history? Who did you "put" here? Seems to me like the immigrants came here for a better life on their own. Also, you ignorant ass, the USA is not an island. Retard? Yeah...you are one sharp character.

1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:37:

To be honest, Canadians liberated Holland during the Second War, not Americans. The Americans got to liberate most of Belgium and France.

Please, Americans, get your facts straight, especially respecting history.

What's next...is some American going to claim that they invented the game of Basketball too? (Actually, a Canadian did that too.)

I will admit that the way Americans use their facts, that in twenty years' time we will be reading about how Natalee Holloway fought off waves of Islamic terrorists and received a posthumous Medal of Honour for her efforts in the Second Iraq war.

Yep...that Medal can go right up there with the dozen or so Medals of Honour won by the Seventh Cavalry after they surrounded all the Sioux women and children at Wounded Knee and opened up with their Parrot guns and the Gatling.

Heroes all, I say.

1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For that fact, I see a lot of messages dissapear here, outside of the foul language some USA citizen put here towards Joran, the Dutch ann Aruban people... Mmmmmmmmmmmmm...... makes you wonder huh?

1:37 PM
Very interesting.

1:47 PM  
Blogger Antoinette said...

Mais, on sait que la vie est fragile, mais tu es bien courageux. En plus, il y a beaucoup de monde que sommes fiers de toi.
If the people will be intelligent, they will see that you are not responsible for leaving unattended an intoxicated person. So do not even feel bad for that. Is not your responsibility. It would be nice, having a detail, but be hold responsible… some other thing.
I am a mother and have a son almost your age, but your parents are some kind of Gods Souls, because Beth will be with a restraining order long time ago, if it will be my son. Keep us posted and as we say in French: Continue….

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeepers...it looks like 1:37's post has been "yanked" (no pun intended) too.

To bad, the responses are pretty funny.

1:47 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

"We also had no business liberating your arrogant ass in WWII."

WOW are you that old ? I'm 51 soon 52 and so I was born after the war (and I'd like to keep it that way).

Hey Yank.... before that there was WWI, where were you ?
And before that we had Bismarck all over the place... where were you ?

And the 80 year war between Spain and The Netherlands ?? Where were you ??

Assholes..... we are one of the greatest investors in the USA, for many years # 1.
We are even pumping in NO

So be greatful Morons !

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I will admit that the way Americans use their facts, that in twenty years' time we will be reading about how Natalee Holloway fought off waves of Islamic terrorists and received a posthumous Medal of Honour for her efforts in the Second Iraq war."

Hilarious! :)

1:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Additionally, Americant; "imbecil" is spelled "imbecile".

Learn english before using it.

Yet another common American problem.

1:56 PM  
Blogger Tante Bet said...

Canadiens Français Bienvenus. Mon Français n'est pas bon, j'essayera. Dans ce cas-ci quelle est l'opinion au Canada ?

Hmmm let go Dutch :)
Wat vinden de Franstalige Canadezen van deze zaak ?

Or English:
What is the general opinion of the (French) Canadians ? Regarding this case...

PS you don't want to read my German :(

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isnt this about the dissappearance of a young girl and the involment or not of a young man? Why does it matter if the girl is american and the boy is dutch? If it was a dutch girl missing and an american boy a suspect be any different? Sounds like this is a "us against them" battle. What is it that drives you to attack a group of people as whole for this? What is the bottom line here? You are losing perspective as to what is the real issue here. Some of you are very proud of your intellect but undermine your own selves by what you write. Is that proving your intelligence? Some of you are probably idiots but post intelligent questions. This is not about Joran or Natalee, this is about HATE. This has given you a chance to release the hate that is eating some of you inside. I feel sorry for some of you.

1:59 PM  

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