Tuesday, February 28, 2006

Joran Goes 'On the Record'
"We just got back from a very quick trip to Aruba. We got word late last week (Friday?) that Joran van der Sloot would sit down for an interview with us in Aruba. The one agreement: that we wouldn't edit it. That seemed fair to me. Frankly, I hate to have controversial interviews edited, since despite our best efforts, everyone — viewers and guests — yell "foul." An unedited interview allows me to simply say, "Here it is. You be the judge." Joran also did not want to do the interview in the United States, so we agreed on Aruba..." More at GretaWire

Greta "Inclined To Believe"
In an interview with Hannity & Colmes, Greta Van Sustren said she now feels "inclined to believe" in Joran Van Der Sloot following her exclusive sitdown with him in Aruba. Greta said she has a theory as to what might have happened to Natalee Holloway and believes this case might be solved. Greta's interview with Joran was the most-watched show on all of cable news for three nights in a row.

(Click here for Joran Van Der Sloots Interview)

"Pathological, Sociopath"
Geraldo Rivera provided his analysis of the latest developments in the Natalee Holloway disappearance case. Prime suspect Joran Van Der Sloot has given a series of interviews proclaiming his total innocence. "The lie that he has fastened on," Rivera pronounced, "is that he took her on the beach but didn't have sex because he didn't have a condom, then left her on the there. It's at odds with the story he told earlier, but as he tells this story he becomes more confident and more glib. I believe there is a pathological aspect to this man." The Factor concurred that Van Der Sloot seems psychologically unbalanced. "I can't figure out why he wants do these interviews because he comes off as a sociopath. If he makes one slip-up he's done. It looks to me like he's a danger junkie - he likes this cat-and-mouse game, it's exciting to him."

Meet Joe Tacopina
Criminal defense attorney Joe Tacopina will represent Joran Van Der Sloot in his upcoming civil case. Tacopina is the famed attorney who has represented clients like New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, John Gotti associates, Frank Tyson in the Michael Jackson trial and countless more high profile defendants. Click here to watch Joe on Court TV

"Three countries have investigated this disappearance and three countries have not found one shred of evidence that points to Joran. This kid is a victim too. He is an 18-year-old kid and his life has basically been ruined." - Joe Tacopina

Joran On Larry King Live?
Hitting the airwaves once again, Joran Van Der Sloot appeared on an Aruban talk show this morning taking calls and answering burning questions from the people of Aruba. In the interview, Joran denied having a poolside summit with his father to concoct a story and said the infamous quote "No Body, No Case" was never uttered. Joran says he is no longer friends with the Kalpoe brothers. He stands by his claim that Satish picked him up from the beach and said he did not take part in the orchestration that led two minority security guards to be falsely imprisoned.

Joran argued that he himself is a victim in this case and admitted the interrogation tactics were brutal but did not succumb to the pressure. When asked about Natalee's fate, Joran said he believes she is not alive. Joran lashed out at what he thought were biased reporters - Nancy Grace and Greta Van Sustren. He talked about his interview with Greta and said he felt pressured by her to point the finger at the Kalpoe brothers. He also asked her not to edit the interview because he was unhappy with what ABC chose to air. Confirming what The Joran Van Der Sloot Blog had posted earlier, Joran said Larry King has asked him to appear on his show this week. Joran apologized to the people of Aruba for the pain he caused and said he leaves for Netherlands on Friday heading back to School. When asked about the lost shoes? He said whoever finds his Size 14 K-Swiss shoes to contact ALE. (MF)

Update: Following the advice of his legal counsel, Joran Van Der Sloot will not be doing Larry King Live or any other interviews at this time.

"The guy is certainly arrogant. But he appears also to have a drinking issue, a gambling issue. And he's the kind of guy who's stupid enough to slip up in his arrogance. And that's what you hope for. They're slick enough now -- they've lawyered up, they've had months to get their mess together. I think the only thing you can do is hope that they do walk around free, get drunk some day, start confessing, and make the kind of mistakes that stupid criminals make." - Wendy Murphy, Legal Analyst


Blogger dennisintn said...

wow, greta's on aruba, jvds went back night before last. everyone getting ready for the big celebration for when the pocket judge awards ownership of the island to paulus for his 2 days stay in jail?

9:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the boycott. Hey, nice place to rest for a few days, look at Kelley going down for fun in the sun every month. maybe Greta can find out the name of the OTHER boy
who took a belly shot off of Natalee that night. Or maybe the name of the boy who yelled "Get out of the car", seems nobody know's and the kids (american) ain't talkin. Even the chaparone's story has holes blown all through it. Somebody WILL talk in those southern states, mark my word.

10:52 AM  
Blogger dennisintn said...

that looks like karin janssen greta is interviewing, except i've never seen janssen in jeans.

11:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have seen a couple posts by people from Aruba Joran arrived back in Aruba the 26th or yesterday the 27th

12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greta DONE it, she made an >1 hour Intervire with Joran and it will be aired tonight or tomorrow. See: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186282,00.html

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im so glad Greta got this interview
I cant wait to see it

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran finds out Friday also if he is dismissed as a Suspect
The day he landed in New York His lawyer was in court fighting to get him dismissed as a suspect
Not to mention daddy's court hearing today

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One other thing
I wonder what the hell his lawyer is thinking about him doing these interview.. His lawyer did not want him to go to New York and Now BAM he turns around and does another interview within a week, I guess next week is Rita Cosby then Dan Abrams Hopefully if we are lucky Clint Van Zant

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will all be over soon.


3:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it strange that Joran can't keep his mouth shut these days, yet we haven't heard a peep from either of the Kalpoes. Someone's going down. I just can't figure out who it's going to be.

3:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

?: Joran said in the beginning that Deepak Kalpoe raped, killed and buried NH. Why is the media not chasing him around like they are Joran? I'm not a Joran fan at all, but could we be chasing the wrong person? It's to bad Joran has nor will ever have any credibility. Otherwise, we might have believed him that Deepak killed her right away. Maybe he's scared of Deepak? I think it was Deepak who killed her. I'll put money on it.


3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you read Greta Wire today
Greta went to Kalpoe home and was yelled at to leave

3:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will all be over soon.


3:04 PM

this is the second time i have seen this post, can you explain

3:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dennisintn said...
that looks like karin janssen greta is interviewing, except i've never seen janssen in jeans.
11:44 AM
NOT.....Looks like Elizabeth Twitty to me.

3:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the father has orchestrated this whole thing since the night Natalee disappeared. Joran has 9 months to read blogs and write a script to rehearse to get the holes in his story fixed and say his lines. He went from walking home with no shoes to riding home with no shoes with Satish. That was on blogs all the time laughing at him walking home 2 miles with no shoes. Also the comment that Dompig made that he was fondling Natalee while she was going in and out of consciousness and that is a felony in Aruba.. to now he had no sex. I don't even believe the Kalpoes are mad at him. I think it's all a part of the big plan, they've made all along. None of their stories have matched, they have had 9 months to fix them, and he has done nothing but degrade Natalee over and over, along with Deepak calling her names. It's called how to be the rap the old fashion way.. connections.. Still no Natalee.. What kind of teacher did he need present to do an interview?

3:50 PM  
Blogger dennisintn said...

not beth, hair isn't straight enough, too much meat on her arms. i wonder if this is when jvds spills the beans and finally after nine months tells the absolute truth about natalee holding him and the kalpoe's at gunpoint and drugging and raping them repeatedly just before leaving the island with elvis in his new stealth flying saucer. but of course jvds tried to restrain her from leaving after struggling to take the 88 magnum away from her and then the kalpoe's ran away screaming but hero of the day was finally overcome by elvis' bodyguards and the only reason he hasn't been honest so far is because of death threats against his lovely family. whatever the story natalee, then beth will be the villains and him the reluctant but valiant hero, although slightly faulted.

4:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the Kalpoes were rude to Greta???...of course , because they are guilty...otherwise, they would be beating down the doors of the MSM like crazy...come on...a spade is a spade...

Joran is still guilty and trying to play up to the media, but he is slowly digging his own grave..off to jail he will go !!!


5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greta needs to quit taking sloppy second interviews and do some real digging in to the Kingdom. That's where the answers lie.

Yes I too believe that the parents of MB will come out of the woodwork soon.

You can't shut a whole town up. All it takes is a slip of the tongue. You would be suprised who visits these sites and really DOES know the truth............

As for the 2nd belly shot that the missing girl gave to another boy that night, where do you think that information came from.

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this is great. Joran has finally figured out he is a dead man walking and will never have a normal life. I think he will step forward and tell the truth because of the fact he is young and wants to go to school , get married and have children of his own someday asit is right now he would never be able to do that with any kind of peace. As far as someone killing the kalpoes that would be foolish because joran and the father would be blamed for it . As far as the kelpoes being rude it will not help there case as I feel they will be charged with killing Natalee and joran will probably be charged as being there and letting it happen also daddy will be charged with the cover up. All in all this case will close soon and Natalee will have Justice. Beth only wants Justice and to bring Natalee home. It doesnt matter who killed Natalee as long as Beth finds out and JUSTICE is done.

7:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

His lawyer should send him down the river for nt taking his lawyers advise and shutting his damn mouth

7:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deepak,Satish you are totally running out of time you need to step up and tell your side.

7:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

has anyone analyzed the time stamps on the casino videos? does it mesh with the stories and statements in the case?

8:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much money did Paulus collect from Aruba today? and joran is suppose to be cleared this friday is thats why he is going on all the tv channells. If so he has not proven he is innocent he has given John Q Kelly lots of new information if you read between the lines. I bet the Drug Cartel who supports his family is getting worried if not they should be because this case isnt going anywhere until Natalee is home and Justice is done. Until then the Lawyers and FBI are watching every move and they are much smarter then you are. Your days are numbered time is running out for all of you.Pack your bags Deepak and Sastise.Joran, Daddy and ?

1:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Down here in these Southern states we have an old expression...if you can't sh*t get off the pot...so to whoever it is that keeps making the innuendos about the Mountain Brook students....shut the hell up or cough it up!!!!

You have nothing and if you do say it!!! I am sick of seeing it and you are only doing it to try to sway public opinion...and...it is not working and will never work.

1:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Down here in these Southern states we have an old expression...if you can't sh*t get off the pot...so to whoever it is that keeps making the innuendos about the Mountain Brook students....shut the hell up or cough it up!!!!

You have nothing and if you do say it!!! I am sick of seeing it and you are only doing it to try to sway public opinion...and...it is not working and will never work.

1:28 AM

I totally agree those kids have nothing to do with it people like to just stir the bucket of shit

2:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The killer are from Aruba and saying any thing differant is silly and noone will ever believe you. Stop the spin and be accountable for your own corrupt Island.

2:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not one Dam HERO in Aruba Just a bunch of Cowards.It takes guts and a real man to tell the truth and so far not one real man in Aruba.

2:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well atleast all teh girls out there Know there isnt a good man in Aruba, SO dont even go look
although there will be 3 desperate guys there, If you wanna get raped and murdered go for it

3:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looking at Joran, I'm reminded of of Scott Petersons interview with Diane Sawyer. Not long after that, he was arrested.

5:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"When Joran tells one lie, more evolve..." - Beth Twitty

5:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Theres an old sayin down here in those southern states too that the shit WILL hit the fan.

Alabama soccor mom

7:18 AM  
Blogger tinatina2tina said...

Hmm lets play it out for you hypocrites.

You are 17 years old. Just hooked up with a hot blond...and went home.
The next morning - she's missing.
Now you have to prove what happened to her after you left???
Not so simple, is it?

Aruban law says you can be jailed for up to four months on suspicion.

So, you lie about where you were and what you did.

WOW, given the simple circumstances, Joran's behavior isn't unusual, is it?
I say he acted exactly like a 17 year old. I'm not surprised he lied, I'm not surprised he's scared.

I'm not surprised he is innocent.

10:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
His lawyer should send him down the river for nt taking his lawyers advise and shutting his damn mouth

7:49 PM

Naaa, let his fat mouth keep blabbing...stupid is as stupid does

Way to go Joran-MORON !

Again with the whole "Mountain Brook Kingdom" , get over it. FBI ran through that town and did their part, dont think they didnt for a second. Alot of jealousy I see towards a well to do family and freinds of Natalees. Grow up people and smell the stinky food Kalpoe Momma is cooking up in the kitchen. Cant wait to see what stupid says tonight on Greta! I sure would like to see Nancy Grace rip his fat ass a new one..Enjoy !!

11:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be over within two weeks after the real Truth is told by SK. Joran started it and the brother finished it. Paulus covered it up. It was unintentional but happened. The K's are being setup and that's not right. They were all involved. The clues are there. Rework the time lines and check the IP connection times on the emails,verify logins and Internet connection times. Not everyone was where they said they were.

Often when one is obsessed with a predefined outcome. They miss the obvious. They need a fresh pair of eyes. Too bad Dompig won't allow it. Loop loop.


11:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said-the Kalpoes were rude to Greta???...of course , because they are guilty...otherwise, they would be beating down the doors of the MSM like crazy...come on...a spade is a spade...

Joran is still guilty and trying to play up to the media, but he is slowly digging his own grave..off to jail he will go !!!

So let me get this straight. The Kalpoes won't talk because they're guilty and Joran is talking because he is guilty. HMMM
That's about the juvenile mentality of many posts on here.

12:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All four are guilty - joran, kalpoes, and daddy vds!

1:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The more he talks the more he lies. Aruba you need a Hero and I bet there is at least one be it male or female step up end this nightmare.With the help of the FBI and the reward this hero can be protected and have a wonderful life. Someone in Aruba knows what really happened and must step up and save themselfs and there country.

1:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is talking trying to convience Aruba he is one of them and cares. He thinks Aruba is there to Serve him he could care less if the people even eat. The Dutch have proven Aruba is there puppett.

1:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Send those camera down to MB area.

Find out who that chick was Sunday afternoon on the back of Jug's new harley motorcycle. Surely didn't have blonde hair.

Now we know why you haven't been around much lately.

Won't blame you a bit, Go Jug Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3:02 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

I thnk we should be mentally prepared for the release of Joran and Paulus from further implication in this case.

While it is not right, as many of us rightfully point out, it is painfully obvious that the Aruban legal system has no intention of "taking the gloves" off in this case... more like they have treated this with "kid gloves" from the beginning with few exceptions in an effort to protect the suspects.

As there is no corraborating evidence of foul play, we may never know what happened to poor Natalee. The citizens of the US will forever be wondering, "only if" in regard to linear string of decisoins and events that led to NHs disappearance. Unfortunately the public is left frustrated with no answers in regard to Natalee and low optimism with ever finding the truth.

The only way to resolve this case is for the person(s) responsible to come forward and confess, or find a body. While Joran's credibility is certainly questionable, at this point I see no feasible reason why any of the three suspects would openly confess to playing any role whatsoever in NHs disappearance.

I am not a pessimist, but a realist. Unless Aruba conducts a thorough search, AGAIN, only this time with the most advanced equipment available, I see little hope of finding evidence. Unless Aruba, finds enough cause to search the VDS compound with the same equipment, including the questionable "cement area", again I find little hope of finding evidence.

Money talks in Aruba and everywhere else. What might make a difference is increasing the reward for anyone with conclusive information leading the arrest of perpetrator or the locaton of NH. Also a deal could be made to the Kalpoes for a lesser charge to reveal what they know about that evening. However, sans an aggressive search with the advanced equipment I have little confidence that they would comply. It's obvious they are devious men with little or no character.

Obvious to me is the VDS postioning of the Kalpoes to be the last person(s) to be with NH. If I were they, I'd be extremely concerned about this, as if ANY tidbit of information turns into a viable lead, the investigative team will be at their doorstep, first, before addressing Joran. This could end the Kalpoes chances for a plea bargin to reduced charges, thus Joran will reap the benefit of having the clout in the Aruban judicial system. Satish and Deepak, you need to consider very carefully the depth of your confidence that evidence will NOT be discovered. If it EVER is, and you are not the source, your lives will be over and Joran could move on with only a slap on the wrist. Don't be stupid. Think.

4:34 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

I hope you realize, as it has been said many many time on all of the cable stations Nononsense - that there is No Plea Bargain in Aruba - so all of your above speculation regarding that is not ever going to happen!

6:25 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

tinatina - It is a crime in Aruba to be the last person with someone that fowl play happens to - thus the very first lie - read Harry Tho today 3/1/06

6:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well If there going to release Joran they had might as well release the Kalpoes also, I mean crap they dont care about justice and they certainly dont care about a full search and real investigation

Bite my ass Aruba

6:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully, a lesson is learned by all of this....

Parents, talk to your kids more about safety while traveling.

Whether in the US or abroad its EVERYWHERE. Even in your own back yard.

7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares who Jug has on a motorcycle, What do you do watch them with a telescope??? If it was me I would really give you something to talk about.

7:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Tina:
>>>I say he acted exactly like a 17 year old. I'm not surprised he lied, I'm not surprised he's scared.>>>>

Okay, let's go with your theory that Joran lied because he was facing 4 months in jail. Could you tell us why he continues to lie with everything that comes out of his mouth while giving voluntary interviews?

8:21 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Well Medley, havng no "formal" plea bargin is of no consequence to my statement. Understanding the levels of corruption in the Aruban judical system, I'm certain that Satish and Deepak could cut a deal "under the table" if they wanted to ensure they wouldn't be away for life.

I mean, come ON, we are talking about the same country, right? ARUBA. Land where the police can't give a breakdown of the 5 murders in 2005? Land where the police WON'T utilize high-tech equipment that's offered for free? Land where forensics are taken four days after at least eight showers and house cleanings? Land where all tourists can visit with peace of mind that nothing will happen to them??? Yeah, I think we're definately talking about the same place...

8:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh puleeze now he's a victim of Greta too... Where's the violin???

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That guy don't know the meaning of telling the truth. Every time he's pressure for details. he starts stuttering and talks in circles.

11:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran I know you read the post on this site and wanted to say I watched you on Greta and there is just no way I beleive your story.You try to say you care for Aruba but there is no way you do. Deepak i feel comes very close to the truth by saying you 3 took her to your apt and all had sex with her while she was passing in and out . You have lived a life as adult and you have no bounders.You talk about your parents as if they have to agree with what you do when you want or you will do it anyway. You say you love them I dont think you love anyone but yourself. There is no way you just took her to the beach and left her with out her knowing you were leaveing unless you set her up for Deepak to rape her and he killed her?The way you talk about the brothers is like they are your servants.The 3 of you killed Natalee and daddy and maybe others have tryed to cover it up .That is not going to happen Joran you are guilty of kidnap,rape and murder and you will have to pay for it along with the others. If you loved your family you would interview with the FBI and stop all the lies. Your father helped you and he will have to pay the price for that but lying isnt going to get you any where. Can you imagine never being truely happy from age 18? well you wont be nothing you do will ever make you happy . You have killed your furture there will be no wife no kids and if there is they will have to live with the shame you have caused. Confess Joran .

11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that there is No Plea Bargain in Aruba - so all of your above speculation. But there is plea bargin in the USA so come here CONFESS make a deal. Time is running out . She is American even if you killed her in Aruba I am sure They will work it out in the USA.

11:38 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

Repetedly all of the lawyers have said there is NO PLEA BARGAIN! all of the lawyers that have commented on this case, have said their is now plea bargain. Of course all you people that want to diss this little country of Aruba and think cooruption is king -well then of course - you can just wait for the big deal - but I do not think that is going to happen!

And Joran if you are reading this --- I thought night 1 of the interview you did amazing - I hope it goes that well on the second part!!!!!

12:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The country didnt kill Natalee but I think joran and deepak and sastise did. The country will go forward only if they arrest these guys and justice is done. Other then that the Boycott is on and noone is safe if they are from the USA. Travel at your own risk and always check your backs because Americans are truely hated in Aruba. Joran you failed in the interview you are guilty.and so far 68% of Americans think you are.

1:15 AM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Waitng for th ebig deal, but that's not going to happen....

If you are naive enough to believe that there are no deals happening in the Arban judicial system, then I have swampland in Alabama I'd just love to sell ya.

No wonder you believe in these guys...

Maybe you should go hang out in Carlos and Charlies - someone special may show up to retrace his steps the night of the crime. Good luck, kid - don't forget your mace and tazer.

3:15 AM  
Anonymous n/s said...

for the ones who keep talking about here in the southern states, i'm from the southern states and ashamed to have you as a neighbor with the filth coming out of your mouths!

joran, if you see this, good interview! can't wait to see part II.

3:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran does check this blog and you can tell from his interview he's been following the drinking age discussion which has been all over the internet.
Mary F.

4:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the big nite came and went. Everyuone saw the part one.

Well, did you learn anything new?

Other than the missing girls family is racist brought up to believe that "Blacks in Alabama are called slaves". What is the American society coming to.

Carbon copy of ABC's presentation.
No additional questions.

So many of you posted YES! Greta got the interview! Big Deal, a true Journalist, or former trial lawyer would have brought to the table questions that have not been answered. We all want the truth here right?

Sloppy seconds....

10:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again (for those of you who still don't understand): in The Netherlands/Aruba there is no minimum drinking age, only a minimum PURCHASING age.

11:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The TRUTH is the only thing that can set you free. Your life will NEVER be peaceful or normal until you tell the TRUTH about what happened that night and YOU KNOW what the truth is. Only you have NEVER told it!

You said in your interview that there is their side and your side and THEN there is the truth and you CLAIM to be the ONLY ONE telling the "TRUTH", but you have ALREADY proven that you can lie like a snake with a straight look on your face. Perhaps it is all of that time you spent playing poker, bc you really do have a great poker face, but you are ALSO a liar and your parents should feel nothing but shame for how you have turned out. Your mom needs to stay at home and watch over you a little while Daddy is out making his deals with the devil.

You have grown up to be a poor excuse of a man and you will NEVER have any quality of life.

Again, The TRUTH shall set you free, so start talking and NO MORE LIES!!!

12:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now Greta, if you want your ratings to stay up on the charts you need to interview those MB kids.

Oh, you also forgot to interview the "cab driver" that hauled the girls around in Aruba. You know the one that has given statements
to the ALE of their behavior.

There are two sides to every coin.

1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I doubt that you have ever heard of this story, because it seems that you have not had a mother or father around to raise you properly. Mom travels and Dad ??? works.


There is a classic story of The boy who "cried wolf" that you should hear~

On several different occasions, the boy cried wolf and all of the villagers raced to his rescue... only to discover that there was never any wolf..... at all,
only a LYING little boy!!!

One day, the boy found himself between a tree and a hungry wolf (yes, A REAL ONE!) and he had NO PLACE to run.

So, he cried for help, "WOOLLFF!!!".......
but due to his PREVIOUS lies........
no one believed him and no one came to his rescue.

Now, do I need to explain the moral of the story and how it applies to you? OR do you get my point??

The finger pointing and staring that you face in the public eye will NEVER go away until this case is solved. Yes, you may find a few supportive bloggers along your pathway, but for the MOST PART... you and your family will have to spend the rest of your lives ducking and hiding your faces in shame.

WE DO NOT believe you and we do NOT see you as the victim here. There is only one true victim and she has no voice of her own...... it was taken away from her along with her life.

There is only ONE way out of this for you and you do not seem to be catching on to that fact very quickly. Your latest version of the "truth" is clearly NOT the whole and true story, only the best one that you and your father can come up with.

The wolf in this story is YOU and until you take off the sheep mask and show the world the TRUTH... you will NEVER be free.... even if you are not ever convicted in a court of law.

Sweet Dreams dear wolf.... and please know that you are NOT the only one involved who cries themselves to sleep at night!

Remember a family is grieving for their lost one!

3:00 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Everything I've read on all the Aruban travel and government sites provides the legal drinking age at 18. The information says that this is not widely enforced. There is also some information that cites 16 and some 21.

As expected there is no strict governance that provides a rule, not evforces it. That country is an accident waiting to happen. You'd think if nothing els they'd have a law to protect their own citizens from the sloppy tourist. Stupid.

Wonder what would be going on right now if van der Sloot's kid disappeared down there... they'd be tearing that island apart, divi by divi to find him. By the grace of God go we. Good luck VDS & Kalpoes, I have a feeling you're going to need it someday soon...

3:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geraldo Rivera provided his analysis of the latest developments in the Natalee Holloway disappearance case. Prime suspect Joran Van Der Sloot has given a series of interviews proclaiming his total innocence. "The lie that he has fastened on," Rivera pronounced, "is that he took her on the beach but didn't have sex because he didn't have a condom, then left her on the there. It's at odds with the story he told earlier, but as he tells this story he becomes more confident and more glib. I believe there is a pathological aspect to this man." The Factor concurred that Van Der Sloot seems psychologically unbalanced. "I can't figure out why he wants do these interviews because he comes off as a sociopath. If he makes one slip-up he's done. It looks to me like he's a danger junkie - he likes this cat-and-mouse game, it's exciting to him."

3:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell him to keep rehearsing his parts to the play, he will get them right sooner or later. Last night he said he went to his house, but didn't get out because all at once Natalee wanted to go see sharks. On Primetime he said they wanted to go to his house, but didn't because he didn't want to wake anyone up and while they were driving all at once Natalee wanted to see sharks.. sure..sure..

3:41 PM  
Blogger Nutcracka said...

something I saw on another blog...good point!

Anonymous said...

Why would you email Deepak to say you got home , when His so called brother just picked him up

Thu Mar 02, 02:10:14 PM EST

4:09 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

Nononsense - you just slay me - if you do not like a place then dont go there - noone forced those kids to go - the parents knew what the country was like - the Twittys should have known more than anyone - the son went. When is everyone going to realize Aruba is a sovereign country that can make its own laws and enforce them or not the way they want.

Like I said, you travel out of our country at your own risk. Did you not all see Midnight Express!!

4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was tell Deepak it was his turn. It was Valentine on the computer, not Joran.

4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the Americans who were there with Natalee? She didn't go there alone, and somebody there must have given a damn about her. We haven't heard anything about this from any Americans besides her parents.


4:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, what do you know, ole Joran has an AMERICAN lawyer coming to town. Look out Mountain Brook students, your off to testify..you to Bethie. And bring your diary, I mean journal.

Train's a comin....

4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do the MB students have to do with anything? Could this be a national conspiracy. Beth was behind this the whole time? Train boy, you should be on or under that train if that's all you've got.

It's unlikely Joran reads the crap on this website. If by chance you do. I have some free advice. If you're as tired of the harassment as you say you are and really feel bad about Aruba and how your parents have been effected by all of this. Simply volunteer to take a lie detector and an EEG test. People will forgive and forget you if the results are right. Things will get back to normal quicker than you might think. You don't have anything to hide, so why even think about it. It's THE only way you can be redeemed now. Best of luck.

ps. Take your ex pals Deepak and Satish with you.


5:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nutcracka ~

That IS an interesting point. I had not thought of that one!!!!

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Tacopina is a baby attorney compared to John Q. Kelly. Reminds me of the OJ Civil trial, Kelly will definately win this one. Tacopina always crumbled when Nancy Grace used to bully him on Court TV during the MJ Trial.

5:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fact # 1:

Do your homework, this is not the first time this girl has runaway.
Ask her family. Talk to her brother. Ask Fran. Why do you think it has only been the mom and dad speaking out publicly?

Eventually, all will be forced to break their silence. Under Oath.

Then maybe your fantasy of Nancy Grace on Court TV will air for you to watch. Step by Step.

Train boy, is a little closer than you think. whooo... whoo...

6:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Let’s go, you know, let’s go fast and let’s leave, you know, like, you know, not really caring about her. Let’s just go and leave her there.” And, I was like, “OK” so (INAUDIBLE) we really went without even saying goodbye to her or without even really seeing her and telling her at that point that we were going to go."

Didn't Joran say in earlier interviews that he said goodbye and that he jokingly tried to carry her and supposedly Natalee refused? Now the story is he ran away from her?!

7:32 PM  
Blogger raindrops said...

Joran has said that he's read a lot of what is on the internet. This blog is referenced on several others so it's not impossible that he's seen it, Anon.

I'll be interested to see the second half of Greta's interview. Catch you later on the other, Nut and medley.

7:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Tacopina Is probably a good lawyer but John Q Kelly is #1 so of course John will will.

9:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is not guilty...this kid doesn't have a clue as to what happened to Natalee...but I sure think that Deepak and Steve "party boat" Croes do.

11:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, Deepak in his tape did say you took her to Your apt all had sex while she is passing in and out . In skeeters tape it came out loud and clear. that wasnt edited? I really think you all are guilty and know some are more guilty then others. Sketters turned the full tape over to the FBI along with his Hard Drive so blameing hin isnt going to get you off. The only thing that will is the FBI and going in and takeing there test. Nothing and I mean Nothing else will help you. You and your Family will live in hell until you go in .Stop the blame game and show everyone the truth so far you havent. And John Q Kelly will trear you up in court so tell the truth NOW.John Q Kelly will win and take everything your father and Mother have. They will have to live in the Strett.

11:09 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Until this travesty of a case, I don't believe the Americans associated Aruba with "The Midnight Express", Medley - or any nationality for that matter - but they may now! I guess you made my point for me, thank you.

As for the VDS and Kalpoes, one can only hope that they wise up. IF they are innocent,then take a poly - what's the big damn deal? They have a poly now that actually reads changes in the brain.. visually along with the traditional monitoring. Is fool proof. I don't know, but if were me, and the world thought I was a murderer, and it was wrecking my life - I'd be banging down the door of anyone I had to in order to prove myself innocent. If for no ohter reason than to be at peace with the world and myself. So what do you think is these guys problem??? AHHH let's think real hard about that one ladies and gents, AHHHH could it be that they are not so innocent?? Nah, can't be that, could it??

Like I said, go over to Carlos and Charlies and hang out, do a couple of jellys and maybe you'll get lucky with one of the "big" boys. Have a little drive and stroll on the beach and you too could be the star of the blog. Don't forget the condoms.

11:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boycott is going to Hurt .

11:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran come to the USA cut a deal and save you family.If you talk you can still save them from loseing everything.

11:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, you were so careful to take your shoes off so sand didnt get into them Why would you just leave with out them? Maybe they had blood on them? Another lie?

11:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deepak and Satish, now your lawyer lies to according to Joran. Joran says he never did make a statement that Satish or Deepak harmed Natalee.. Here's the lawyer's statements to Greta that Joran said Deepak raped, killed and buried Natalee. Who buys that shoe story????? So much stuttering so little time.


11:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran said Deepak told the lighthouse story and no way they went because there was a guard there that night. Read Vanity Fair. Charles Croes said Joran told him they went to the lighthouse and Deepak was afraid Natalee would throw up in his car.

11:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boycott is great: cheaper trips and hotels for me! Think twice: one side boycotts dont work. I am going on a cheap Aruba trip, yeah!!!

12:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what, even if he loses that trial. Good luck finding their assets, since the VDS will not have ANY assets in the US. It's not easy, maybe even impossible to get any of their money / assets out of another soevereign country, wether it is Aruba or the Netherlands.

And there are of course enough possibilities and time to invest in a safe place, for away from the courts... it might turn out the VDS own nothing (at least nothing that can be traced down).... like we say in Dutch: you cant take any feathers from a bold chicken.

12:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bold Chicken? Even a bold chicken needs to keep a job so he can eat and beleive me he becomes very thin when his food money goes to another family.Unless the chicken is dead he pays.And noone wants to be around a bold chicken so life is over no matter what. No such thing as a bold chicken just shows you how dam dum the dutch really are.

2:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boycott the corrupt Island let the Drug Dealers have it.

2:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noone wants there crappy things we just want justice and when he loses we will all have that. He and his buddys will be walking around looking like the dead men they are. As of the night they took Natalee there life as they knew it ended. They are all dead men walking as they killed there own furture.

2:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

psychopath, Is the Best word to use for Joran and the Brothers.

2:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These guys will Pay for killing Natalee Someday.One of them will mess up and the truth will come rolling out . They can not trust one another soon one will tell what happened and All will fall.They are all being watched 24/7 and will be until they are back in JAIL.

2:46 AM  
Anonymous Sue said...

The Kalpoes are denying picking Joran up at the beach location… IN Jorans ABC interview he said him and the kalpoes met every day for 9 days going over this stuff.. If the Kalpoes never picked them up, why would they need to meet? Why would they have to make up the stories of the holiday inn??
Had the Kalpoes Just picked up Joran at home went to C&C’s had a drink , didnt talk with Natalee there , allowed Natalee in there car with joran and dropped them at the beach and went home.. they would be NO reason for these boys to even be involved.. In my eyes had that happen they should not of even been arrested , they wouldnt need to make up those lies unless they were there..
I cant imagine them getting into this lie to save Joran

2:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't you like the part about Joran saying what kind of person goes around setting someone up or words similar when talking about Jamie Skeeters.. Helllo..how do you spell security guards???? "chicken" is the correct word to use. He's so responsible he never has sex without a condom, but he leaves a girl on the beach in a foreign country in the dark and he doesn't say bye, wanna keep in touch, let me know how you are...he just jumps in the car and takes off fast. Why because he never was at the beach, he was at his house. He's going out to pick up a girl and he forgets to buy a condom. Did you also like the part where he said he's done this with like 20 tourists before and nothing bad happened. Why did the persons not say no?? He's been practicing this script for 9 months. As for the train I think the batteries were put in backwards, because everytime it goes it runs over him again and again. Natalee was fine in Aruba until she met up with them. So far he's the victim of Natalee, Natalee's family, the cops, one slapped him around, the Kalpoes, Greta, ABC, the interrogators blah blah blah.

3:02 AM  
Anonymous heather said...

im watchin on the record right now.
when you said something about his shoes being left at the beach, you said "did she take her shoes off too" and he said "she also left her shoes there"
and then he got nervous looking and took a drink and had you repeat what you said. he had to of taken her somewhere...
just watch that part..if that was me and i caught myself saying the TRUTH and you didnt catch it, then i would of done exactly what he did. he looked REALLY scared..got red..
i heard from a cop that the SWARES they sold her across seas for prostitution..a cop swares?
the dad was in on the lies the boys were telling?

3:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

boy i feel like im in school again writing note,
Something else i found very strange

First off in past interviews he said he didnt know who Natalee was( current affair)
So Daddy Sloot calls him and say hey there are some parent here looking for there daughter… Could be tinkerbelle for all we know that they were looking for
So on the drive back to Jorans home Deepak and joran make up a lie when they dont even know who the hell is missing…He had made prior comment that girl was missing from beach..well until they talked to the boys KNOW ONE would have even known that anyone was even at the beach.. So Deepak calls his brother to tell him about the lie, and now there claiming they never even picked Joran back up

Does anyone find this strange

4:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On "Primetime" Joran said they met for 10 days to get their stories straight. On "Greta" he said him and Deepak met twice and Satish met with them once. I'm not a math whiz, but how does 3 times turn into 10 days.

5:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesnt :| i noticed that also

5:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran did offer a few odd smirkish smiles at strange times. They weren't in "contradiction" to what he was saying, but they were odd and what I'd consider inappropriate in their timing. These raise more red flags but by themselves they are not enough to say anything. I personally don't think a normal person who is innocent in his situation would smirk or smile when he did but this is not enough to form an opinion. It is just a clue to a bigger picture.

5:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea, Joran you said there was a little ____ (rain) and there was strong wind, and so you said Natalee wanted you to watch stars in the sky (not the sharks though). So cloudy and overcast night sky with stars shining huh? You damned pathological liar, you keeps saying Natalee say this or that, you making up all these god dammned beach stories and none of them exists. The strong Easterly wind was blowing the seawater around the island and pushing the high tide seawater up and over the beach, and you said there were people over at Marriot Hotel beach. Were those people surfing the tide water at night? And I don't think Natalee would that stupid sleeping with you in the sea water on the beach that night. Or are you going to lie about Natalee got drowned in the tide seawater in your next Larry King
Interview. Go to hell, Joran, you SOB!

10:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran knows what happened and he will never willingly tell us. He won't take a polygraph or EEG test because even he can't beat that. The only thing Joran really needs to be "scared" of is the rest of his life. I'm actually impressed he hasn't caved yet and if he hasn't by now. He's not going to. Pray for Natalee's soul. That may be all the solice Beth needs. Joran, you need to payback the love and kindness shown to you by the Aruban people before this happened. When the lights go down low.....

10:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


11:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see that Greta interview? Joran should have listened to his lawyer. It has actually become comical. The interviews are more than enough proof you did it. Just tell us where she is and we can all go home.

1:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Aruba weather report on May 30, 2005 will nail a coffin nail right into Joran's head. Hope somebody expert can get some satellite Aruba weather images on May 30, 2005. Then we can precisely locate where Joran was at 4:00 PM that same night. I figured that the Mariott beach is at NE of the island, the weather station is at the southern tip
of the island, and the cloud pattern was moving diagonally from the NE to the South. So the weather report indicated that the Mariott beach was under overcast clouds, and there was no way for Natalee to see any starry stars in the sky. Joran had to be out 2 miles off the beach into the ocean to be able to see some stars. That stars confession of Joran tells me he is guilty of murder and of disposing Natalee's body into the ocean.

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what relative is Plummer the chaparone, to Jug Twitty? :)

2:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran - I have been watching your interviews - and you look nervous. Please tell them where Natalee is. I found it odd - that you couldnt remember if Nataleee took her shoes off with you. Why would she take her shoes off if she was in sandals anyway? The sand goes through them. Also - I think you lied about your shoes becuase there was blood on yours. At first you had ONE shoe- now you left BOTH. ODD! Also - NOBODY would attempt to walk home WITHOUT their shoes - so that just doesnt click for me. I think you TOOK Natlalee to your house to have sex with her - (without consent- she was out of it) and something went drastically wrong. Was it the same scenerio as that sex tape that was made and you tunrned it into a snuff film? Did something else go wrong like she started to wake up during her rape and you let her choke on vomit? I think your dad hid the body in your house for a while. Your friendship with Deepak seems rotten to the CORE. Was he angry at the slave comment- which I highly doubt she said anyway- that pushed Deepak into a murderous/raping rage? I mean -you even said Deepak doesnt get girls. What REALLY happened Joran??? Please- becuase your story isnt matching. PLEASE LET Equisearch go through your home and the outside. let them dig - so we can move on- if you didnt do it. But your house feels like it is where she was/is. TO PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE - LET THEM SEARCH YOUR FAMILIES GROUNDS COMPLETELY.
Your answer- if you saw Natalee - you would HATE her- made you look horrible. A normal answer would have been - how relieved you were, or I am SO happy to see you alive. You would hate her - becuase when you see her -you feel shame. That is guilty Joran. The shoes are a HUGE mess up. YOU- worried about school? Doubt it - especially since your time line stinks. If you care about school so much - why go out at 1145pm to get to Carlos & Charlies at 12:15-12:30? What nice girl in her RIGHT /SOUND mind would ever hook up with you after you showed up with 30 minutes to go. You looked like you went to get "some"- with your 2 tag alongs- never getting anything. Why not bring some ectasy and slip one to the easiest victim. Kathleen was already busy - so you "picked" avaliable innocent Natalee to Drug. She NEVER would have went with you after you showed up so dis-respectfully late. Its a rule girls have - to never leave with a guy - especailly at the end of the night. You didnt even hang out 45-min to an hour. Do you think your that great???? Well - slipping her the E - got it easier for you boys. Until you show ME otherwise - I think YOU 3 did it.

2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are no such things as your beach stories or Holiday Inn story or Lighthouse story. They are all lies of lies.

The truth is Joran, you drugged, raped and murdered Natalee in your own house. And your daddy Paulus helped you to

hide her body in the old water well inside your house. The cement top is less than a year old but now is starting

cracking because the old water well tries to move Natalee's body up to the well head due to the water table movement

caused by the recent heavy rainfalls. The rain water seeps into the old dry well and create huge hydraulic pressure

upward to push the cement plug apart, so Natalee's body will come out intact at any given time. Everyone is watching

your house properties 24/7 hourly. The spy satellite is beaming on your house and the well and the yard constantly.

Every bounty hunters are waiting for the right moment to move in on you. There is no escape for you. You might well

just give up and surrender to the ALE and FBI. I'm kind of like, "OK".

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran time is not on your side. They will come for you soon. Deepak and Sastise get your trash bags packed. Pack enough for a life time thats how long you will be in jail.

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did you talk to Natalee about in the bar oh we talked she's 18 and going to medical school(like that's not been all over the internet). I lied to her and said I'm 19.. Oh what did you talk to her about on the beach oh she said she was 18 going to school and I lied and said I was 19 and going to school. Where's the details???? instead of the babbling on and on about things that make no sense and changing the subject.

6:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


7:16 PM  
Anonymous cenote530 said...

get the GLAD bags boys coz yor gonna need em.

(Joran speaking of Jamie Skeeters referring to the Deepak tape)

Joran: what kind of person would set up innocent people?

Even as you were saying that the look on your face said it all, coz you realized you were describing what you had done to 2 innocent people....the security guards.
You tripped up a bit there didn't you?

7:33 PM  
Anonymous Tatianna said...

Joran time is not on your side. They will come for you soon. Deepak and Sastise get your trash bags packed. Pack enough for a life time thats how long you will be in jail.

lmao bout the bags!

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone of you ever been drunk or tipsy? If so, can you remember ever little detail of conversation you had with someone, anyone?
Just like that country song and I might add says it well. "You'll have some of the best times, you'll never remember with me...ALCOHOL. I can't even tell you what I did yesterday, let alone 9 months ago.

At least we are getting some kind of answers, be it truth or not. We are not getting Beth's typical..."I don't know", that's in my notebook and I don't have it with me, or "what he said" , or "that's not revelent" or "drugged, raped and murdered" with not no evidence whatsoever! Or the biggest one...the MB kids have said all they are going to say. Which was what...I don't know, I left early, I didn't see anything...Natalee, Natalee who??

8:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So many theory's. Could it be Satise and Deepak killed Natalee?

11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've worked with Greta for a long time. Keep in mind, Greta is a defense lawyer. She normally lands on the defendant`s side.

11:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greta is on the truth's side.. She isn't going to come out and say she thinks Joran is guilty. She has other questions to ask him she said. follow up ones.. Jim Hammer didn't say he believes him either. All three others are criminal defense attorneys. Joran keeps practicing his story. Now he's put the whole making up stories on Deepak and the suspicion on the K2. Don't you think it's odd Joran is quoting police statements and info. The one's he has seen..he made up his new story to fit the facts known by quoting police statements. If those 3 and Joran's father couldn't pull off the perfect crime.. A teen from the US on a trip who knows little about Aruba sure couldn't. If you have info Natalee is alive tell the police.. It sure don't look like many do think she is. It was all Deepak and Satish now.

12:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greta said she believes him and the panel agreed. Joran has been in court a few times, each time they have to provide evidence, the documents are just that one of them. Believe it or not sometimes the first choice isn't always the right choice. If he can make greta start to believe him then maybe you sould rethink you view.

Remember Beth has been talking about documents that she said she found in the trash. The ALE has told her they are fake. but she stills says they are real. Beth also still believes in the skeeters tape. which the HFI said is manipulated. Maybe she should start to look in another direction and maybe she will be able to find out what happened.

1:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

evidence has been destoryed by who ever was put in charge of the cover up . But it will be uncovered and this case will end one day with JUSTICE for Natalee.

2:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All are Guilty.

2:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greta said until additional information, which is a way of saying bring out the info that disputes what Joran is saying.. such as police statements he's made and Deepak and Satish talking. I hope they bring those 2 back in and ask them this stuff. When Satish picked up Joran(Joran's statement) he never saw Natalee, was she alive then?? Beths info comes from all the statements they all made. Even Joran said he would feel the same way she does if it was him and why are we trying to decide after 4 or 5 shots at telling the truth if he is or not this time. Practice your lines, you can get them down great. Deepak and Satish are kind of in a corner. If they all were involved and they come forward they could implicate Joran, but it would themselves also. I don't believe anyone who has told lies for 9 months and messed up precious time looking for a missing person. He has made himself the perfect victim of everyone. Sorry I just don't buy a girl staying on the beach alone in the middle of the night unless she's unconscious or in bad shape. He had a phone, he could've went to the Holiday Inn..he knew they were staying there and told them. He also said he took his shoes off when they first got to the beach and sat down by the water.. by the Marriot.. and yet when time to go he didn't want to walk down by Natalee to get his shoes.. Natalee was nowhere near where he left his shoes, according to his account of where he left them.

2:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I have to say I am a little uneasy how people are quick to judge either way on this case. Joran's recent interview with Greta proves nothing either way. I don't feel he is any less guitly. This said I obviously have my personal opinion. Yes I realise this contradicts my first sentence...anyway after his first interview with the gentleman? he seemed very nervous/guilty. His eyes would move all around and he would sip water when the questions got tough. He did the water thing but seemed to be better more confident when talking to Greta. I can almost feel for him where he says oh I left her at the beach and so on, and thats how the first lie came about. The problem being is if you are not guilty after a day or so you would be like hey I'm sorry I didn't say this before but... and so on. Can I help search or what can we do to help..I have a heart and feel horrible happend to this girl that I happend to be hooking up with. This is what he should have done if not guilty. Why would they need to go in such great details of lies? Joran seems to go back and forth between in jail they treated me great, they were harder on because of my father, it was horrible in there but they were very nice to me but they think I am guilty. He also goes back on forth on the Kalpoe brothers friends for a long time, then it was just a few months, they are nice guys, but he doesn't want to be friends with them anymore. Friendships don't change unless something more is going on. I think that Joran living with guilt inside. It seems like he gets a little choked up but very quickly skips to the next thing. And to me about the shoes I would have been like oh I forgot them wasnt even thinking about them. I personally live close to a beach and have done this before and not even been in a hurry. Its a shame but I dont think this case will be solved unless Natalee somehow appers. I pray it does however I think Joran will die of guilt. I wish the Kalpoe brothers would come forward or they would do interviews with some of the other people who were origially arrested. Maybe they can clue us in on some of the questions they to were asked. I would also like to hear more from others that were at the bar or on the same trip at Natalee.

3:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Natalle is presumed dead and not sold off..where could she be? This makes me so sick. How could they cover something up so quickly? I really just want to jump on the next flight there and search for answers myself. The media has done a pretty good job but I feel like there is soo much more we should and could know. I hate to make somone out guilty if they aren't but something still isnt right with this story...does anyone know if any of these guys still have a myspace website or any other?

3:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is on Zorpia.com

4:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IMO, Greta and her defense attorney pals buying in to Joran's story is of no value because:

1) Most interviewers grossly over estimate their own effectiveness. They tend to believe (going in) that they have the unique ability to ask just the right questions to pull the truth out --- if anyone can. Thus, when the alleged perp manages to get thru without major slip-ups.... the interviewer wants to believe that they probably were telling the truth.

I call it the, "No one can stand up to my interrogation skills without cracking", syndrome. Just like most TV viewers want to believe that they can watch carefully and detect the lies/truth for themselves. Not at all likely in a friendly interview setting.

2) Even though Greta is an experienced cross-examiner, we saw none of the challenge tactics that are used to cross-examine in a court room. This interview was relaxed and, for the most part, Greta accepted Joran's tales without challenging his answers. All she did was carefully walk him through the timeline (and presumed facts of the case).... and allowed him to give his version. Yes, she asked a few follow-up questions, but notice how she let him ride free each time when he stuck to his story.

3) In the past, Greta openly stated many times that she "tended to believe" the media answers given by Scott Peterson and O.J. Simpson. I even remember her saying that "As bizarre as his story may seem, Peterson is either telling the truth --- or he is one of the most convincing liars I've ever seen". That's what defense attorneys do. IF the perp can deny the allegations on camera while keeping a straight face --- they must be telling the truth.

Unfortunately, voluntary interviews cannot be done in an agressive manner. When they are, we usually see the perp get mad and leave. Greta has TV shows to promote and wasn't going to push.

Obviously, I was not impressed with this so-called "deposition" which was done exactly in the wimpy style of softball Larry King.

Somewhat interesting TV, but of no real value as far as getting to the truth.

6:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A 17 year old boy who drinks 151 & gambles till the casino closes, picks up an underage girl and takes her to the beach for sex, on a school night, sounds like he has no parents at all. It also looks like he gets to do whatever he wants whenever he wants. I don't like to see anyone get tried by the media, but he keeps giving interviews on TV. I think there are too many things that don't add up here... Keep him talking he will hang himself. My own opinion is that Natalee was killed, either by accident or on purpose and that Joran fed her to the sharks. He lost his shoes in the surf when he was dragging her out into the ocean to dispose of the body. At the very least he knows more than he is saying and if I were Natalees father I would want to ring his neck. I am 50 years old and like to think that I would know when I am being lied to by a 17 year old.... This boy may not be a murderer but he is a terrible liar.

7:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is a narcissist. He loves this attention! He wants to convince the world that he is the "victim" not "suspect" in the dissapearance of Natalee Holloway. I think that quote from Wendy Murphy sums it all up. They have sorted out the mess and are now trying to cash in with this story.

7:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Thing you should look at: Happend something 6-12 Months before Natalees Holiday on Aruba and Missing at Home in Alabama? Why's are nobody looking at this?`It sound crazy, but their Parents could have a connection to her missing and plays only - with huge financial coasts and efforts - a sadly Parents number?

8:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's an invatation for Mrs. Twitty to sit down and talk with Joran as mentioned on national television.

Will she take him up on this offer, remember she has stated in the past she wants a face to face with this boy.

Stay tuned for the next episode.
The ongoing saga......

9:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, we have seen interviews with, Beth, interviews now with Joran now all we need is interviews with The mountain brook students.

One would think, those kids would be shouting from the roof tops these last 9 months. Why the silence?

Their silence shows volume.

10:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Kalpoes are going to become to the new "security guards". Joran took the facts he does know and built a story on them. The other stuff not known with no facts to back it up.. he blames on the Kalpoes. It's amazing what having a dad for a judge and lawyer can do.

1:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all out there who think Joran will feel remorse or guilt - bear in mind that sociopaths do not feel guilty. Indeed they have an entirely different set of "playing" rules in which they are a controling principal. Joran has issues for sure, but until a professional can get into his head, there's no way to really be sure of his stability. So was this an accident, or was this an intentional violation of a woman that got out of control, or maybe Natalee was not as out of it as they hoped and threatened to go to the authorities - who knows. Bottom line is that we have no way of knowing if any of these men are feeling remorse. By what they have indicated in interviews it seems they not only have no remorse, but they are lashing out at Natalee, the Holloways and each other. They are the "victims" in this scene and everyone has them all wrong, they are good upstanding young men, until someone can prove otherwise. Meanwhile, Joran has pretty boy Joe Tacopina to defend his honor in this deal. I hate to tell ya Joran, but Joe is not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he'll get great media out of you. However, with Bo's guys on you, you better watch every breath you take, and if Natalee is anywhere on your property, search warrant or not, she will be found. You clearly do not yet understand exactly the level of playing field you have now escalated this situation to... Son, you may get away with this, but your life will never be your own. And with the Kalpoes now totally pissed, your longevity may be adversely effected.I would not want to be bumping into any "friends" of the Kalpoes if I were you. And surely those guys are not going to want you around... you are too much of a risk for them, and they are the types that know some guys - you get my drift? Think real hard about whether this is all worth it.The longer it goes on, the more severe the punishment.

2:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn’t it seem strange to you at all that Joran said he got a phone call from daddy saying
that there are parents there looking for their daughter and Joran and Deepak automatically
make up a story about Natalee being dropped off at the hotel, How in the hell would they know
who was even missing? It could have been one of his school pals for all he knew..
You don’t find that just a bit strange ??

If Deepak and Satish are now denying picking Joran up from the beach, Why in the hell would they
get into to this lie to begin with
Had they just picked Joran up from the casino and went to the bar and took them to beach dropped
them off and went home and claim they never picked Joran up ... they would be guilty of nothing
But they got into this BIG huge lie with Joran and had they just been honest I bet they wouldn’t have even been arrested.. there is something wrong with this picture.

Joran also says he emailed or talked to Deepak when he got home, to say he got there ok
WHY WHY WHY If Satish had picked him up why would he need to tell Deepak he got home ok????? he is so rehearsed it is sick
Help me here!

2:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

something else I find strange

If there was no motive or preditorial nature why would you go out to the bar with 30 minute to spare to closing , and in that 30 minutes decided well I think I want have sex with this girl that I don’t know??

I mean I had some wild times in my younger years but never ever in 30 minutes say well hey I want have sex with some guy that I don't know anything about .

2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IN his interview he says.. These kids come to the states after working so hard to graduate
the drinking age is 21 in the state and 18 in Aruba and they come there and over indulge
But not once did he say or Greta ask ... Well Joran you were under age in the bars and casino
even with his dad drinking and gambling and that is ok??? It is quite obvious that was not his first trip
to the bar or casino..

How he went on and on basically calling Skeeters a dirt bag for manipulating the tapes
and recording Deepak without him knowing , when I am sure Deepak knew he was being recorded
But even though he says he is sorry for the two sercurity guards, he did almost the same damn
thing getting these two guys arrested.. good lord what a double standard

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds likes someone likes to read the Enquirer or Globe or should work there. Binoculars? I could care less what happened in Alabama. Natalee was fine in Alabama, she's been to foreign countries before came back fine and she was fine in Aruba until she met up with those 3. Beth can meet with Joran, like she is suppose to believe someone who says he wouldn't even believe himself and has lied for 9 months. I remember Current Affair.. him saying over and over that is the truth. He's looking out for numero uno.. I can only hope those who get a "kick" out of trying to trash a family with a missing daughter that when it happens in your family or someone you know, there will be a group to return the favor.

3:06 PM  
Blogger raindrops said...

Anonymous said...
Ok, we have seen interviews with, Beth, interviews now with Joran now all we need is interviews with The mountain brook students.

One would think, those kids would be shouting from the roof tops these last 9 months. Why the silence?

Their silence shows volume.

10:16 AM

What does it show? Maybe it shows that some of them DON'T know anything. Not everyone who went on the trip would necessarily be intimate with the details of Natalee's vacation. How many do you want to do interviews? Maybe they don't have anything interesting or relevant to add to the volumes that have been on the news and the internet, and they are not interested in having their lives dissected by strangers. Just because they haven't spoken in interviews doesn't necessarily mean they have anything meaningful to add.

3:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the 4-5 involed in Natalee's case. Do you know you are being watched 24/7? you will be until you tell the truth. What kind of life will you ever have? None really. They have equipment that can see thur walls they can hear you talk from 5 miles away your lifes are over now because you did what ever you did and will not be truthful. Save yourselfs this will never go away. Thousands of retired police ,FBi and just regular people will be trying to catch you and they will someday. They will never give up until Natalee is home and JUSTICE is her's.

4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth is in Aruba not Alabama.

4:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, she has been to foreign countries, but you left out the part of the 2(TWO) runaway stunts she pulled in past.
Remember not to open Pandora's Box.

4:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee is not to blame for what the men did to her. She should have been go go to live another day and someone made sure she wouldnt live to tell on them. Now they will all go down for killing her unless one is really innocent and tells on the killer.

5:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another day another story. This will only end when the men who killed natalee realize until then it will never end we will be writeing about getting justice for Natalee until the day we get it. Time is on ourside the men who killed her for them time is running out.

5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee never went to 2 foreign countries and ran away with no money, no passport, no ID, no clothes, no food..on the night she met up with 3 men, one who bought her a 75 proof alcohol drink and claims he dumped her on the beach and lost his shoes. Good defense of Joran, smear Natalee.. because she can't defend herself or she would be here.

5:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Joran emailed Deepak to let him know that he home, because it seems that Deepak is a fanatic about his car. It was just a courteous thing for Joran to do.

I'd appreciate a call or email from my friend,if I had loaned my car to my brother in the wee hours of the morning to go pick up someone. Yes, I'd like to know that person made it home and that my brother and car would be home shortly too.

Think about...and stop being so quick to judge....remember these are teenagers and teenagers do not think the same way that 30, 40, 50 and up year olds do.....You can't treat a 2 yr. old like he/she is ten. Nor can you treat a 10 yr. old like he/she is 16 or two. Nor a 16 yr.old like they are 25....so on and so forth. BUT maybe some of you were never teenagers.

Wasn't Deepak at work that night? He pick Joran after work hours, which I believe was past midnight.

Going to a club before closing doesn't automatically make a person a predator. Crap ! A predator would have been hanging around all night, hitting on his prey until he found his willing one. A predator would not let Natalee get out of a car, nor do I think a predator would have allowed himself to be seen by a lot of people with his prey on his arm ! To me it seems a predator would be pretty damn sneaky...think about the hawk that sits quietly in a tree waiting for his prey to slither by. These guys were right out in the open and I mean wide open.

I don't believe that Joran went to meet Natalee....it was her friend he liked. Natalee seemed to have pushed herself on Joran. I'm thinking this girl would have left that bar with anyone who had a car that night, because that is what she wanted to do. She may have been trying to find someone that she could stay with in Aruba, since she did not really want to go back home. Frankly, who could blame her?

6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am convinced that Greta's stunt is just part of the conspiracy to ruin the good name of Mrs. Beth Holloway Twitty in our search for her beloved daugher. Common sense dictates Greta's latest statements are her contentions based on new lies she has been presented as the truth by a powerful family. We cannot lay all fault on Greta. That son, JVDS, rules the island and the press with an iron fist and green wallet. It is verified speculation that Greta was paid to let Joran be interviewed so lightly. The journal he referred to in stressful internal moments was proof of a staged dialoge.

6:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good name of BHT? Conspiracy? You've got to be kidding me. So Beth's a victim now too. And who is really the "powerful family" here. Beth just needs to admit that she was wrong about Joran and move on to actually finding Natalee. That has been her whole purpose for this from the beginning, right? To 'bring Natalee home'? That is what she said, right? She's so busy spreading her boycott BS and giving speeches and filing lawsuits...Is she even still looking for Natalee?

6:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 5:19....I ran away once and didn't take anything at all with other than the clothes I was wearing....So there you go. Blows that theory right out of the water.

To 6:17....Yep, Greta was paid by Fox...her normal pay check. So why the beef with her because she seems to be seeing another side to this story. Didn't Fox News and all the rest belittle and downgrade the VDS's and Aruba for nine months?

Turn about is fair play...or haven't you ever heard that before?

7:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He picked Joran up at 11:45.. and they got to the club about 12:30 and Joran told him about the MB girls at CnC. Deepak and Satish showed no interest in picking up one of the students. Joran took her to a back bar and bought her one of the strongest drinks there. Satish was there he said. Deepak was out back in the car. So Deepak and Satish went out that night for a drink and to chauffeur Joran around all night..go home and come back and pick him up when he calls?Deepak and Satish's big night out?? Noone saw Natalee after she went with Joran that night on the beach. How does anyone know she was alive then? How do we even know they went to the beach? No witnesses and Joran says there was lots of people there. Everytime he's done an interview he changes his story with practice. I can't believe any one would even wonder if he's telling the truth this time or not. That says it all. let Natalee speak for what she thinks about her family. oh that's right she's missing. If she ran away call the police in Aruba tell them.

7:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why shouldn't Joran keep a journal...Bethie has a notebook. Tit for Tat, I'd say.

7:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just my theory, but I think that Steve Croes picked NH up from that beach and gave her little ride into international waters. Could have transfered her to another vessel and bye-bye Natalee. Suriname is the major port for the sex trade transporting. Now...who's from Suriname??? Why would Steve approach Deepak and not Satish or Joran with his goodwill idea. I'm not too bright, but there's no way in hell I'd offer an alibi for complete total strangers.You know, some murderers return to the scene of the crime, some even go so far as to attend the funerals of their victims. By going to the police station, Steve Croes was probably just trying to see if he was suspected of anything.
Deepak said Natalee looked like a slut, talked like a slut and acted like a slut. Maybe he figured she'd be the perfect candidate for the trade business. Could be that once Satish returned home and told Deepak that Natalee was left on the beach, he and Deepak made a little run, maybe even called Stevie boy and told him they had a hot one. Who knows. Just another guess.

7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The gardener saw a sliver car by the tennis club...isn't Steve's car silver.

7:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about, handing the Van Der Sloots and the Kalpoes a bill, for all the dollars, this has cost the families, the searchers, the U.S., Aruba, all involved. Plus the time taken away from everyones normal living schedules, trying to find out what happened to Natalee, because no one will tell the truth about what did happen to her.

Issue them the option: to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, OR, pay for all the expenses, it has cost for what they did!

They do not deserve to go free, for upsetting the whole world, for all this time. pfs

10:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bethie dressed in sparkles and glitter is speaking at yet another benefit...music, dancing and I suppose cocktails. Now just who is suppose to benefit from this benefit?

Yapping about Joran being a liar and rapist and murderer, oh and young people please be safe when you travel.

To be honest with you, I don't need Beth Twitty to try and teach me and mine any lessons in life!

She should have taken the donations, hired a real P.I. and went uncover to different countries and physically looked for her daughter. Instead, she opted to be on the damn TV every single night yapping like a broken record. Lord, that women makes me tired.

10:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:34 that is most ridiculous item of the day !
Geeze, you sound like Beth...money, money, money...that's all this is about anyway isn't it. M_O_N_E_Y

10:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


What the hell has she done with all that money she received in donations? She surely didn't pay for anything in Aruba: her hotel, meals, the overtime that all the police had while they were searching, not a damn thing.

However, I think Jug or Dave or somebody was comoplaing that they had to pay a cab fare once or twice. Whoop-tee-dooo!!!

10:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


12:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deepak and Sastise better get ready hire great expensive lawyers because they are going to come for you both REAL soon.joran already has one good lawyer and it is going to cost way more then you can imagine. your country runs on less money then its going to cost you for lawyers.

12:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Showing Beth no respect shows what a real low life you guys are.

12:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree Anon..low,low,low low...the kind of neighbors you would relocate in the witness protection program to get away from. They carry a gossip notepad and binoculars.
Beth needs to buy the song by Bonnie Raitt, lets give 'em somethin' to talk about. They sound very, very jealous.

2:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Tacopina has defended mobs and evil people for years. He has no problem adding another blood soaked name to his resume.

6:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as I know RESPECT is something that a person EARNS...It is not something that is given FREELY nor can one DEMAND respect.

9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the question is will they ar will they not take Joran up on his invatation?

When asked the question, once again they dodged the answer.

And the answer "if Plummer the chaparone is related to Jug".
Yes, he is his 1st cousin.

yea, let's give them somthing to talk about, THE TRUTH

10:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RESPECT IS EARNED. It not given freely, nor is it demanded.

10:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is What Criminal Profiler
Pat Brown had to Say last night On
The Big Story


1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't care if the chaperone is related to the Maytag repairman. or Christopher Plummer.. THE TRUTH.

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Tacopino defended Gotti mob people and Bernie Kerik who resigned from running for Homeland Security due to having an affair with a correctional officer and publisher Judith Regan at the same time behind his wife's back, I think she even hired a security guard for protection and he has/had reported links to the mafia He had some kind of legal troubles with his nanny being an illegal immigrant etc and well we all know the Michael Jackson story that all 40 year old men have sleep overs with little boys.

2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:34 PM Message was not intended to mean a M_O_N_E_Y making case for anyone.

The meaning "behind the message", was about the damages done, (disappearance of Natalee, the suffering, pain and expense it has cost the families, friends, strangers, authorities and more, around the World), because the involved participants will not tell the truth, to solve this case.

If the involved were obligated to reimburse the cost of this investigation and related expenses, for which they are responsible for causing (probably in the millions of dollars range, by now), along with any other fine and sentence handed to them, they might decide to "cut a deal" and agree to tell the truth about what did happen to Natalee.

It appears they are freely moving around, in spite of upsetting people all over the World!

The best possible ending would be for Natalee to showup and be able to tell all of us what really happened to her!

This not a situation about money, it is about losing a family member, in this case Natalee Holloway, and trying to find out what happened to her and where she is.

Thank you.

3:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noone will make a dime on what has happened to Natalee and noone should. The fundraiser is for all missing people it cost alot of money to find some one and Searches are very nessasary.Natalee should be at home with her family and because a 4-5 sick men she isnt.What kind of a country treats people the way Beth,Dave have been treated. Not one I would go to. They have proven thur there actions crime is all they protect in Aruba. As far as joe being a Mob lawyer I was born and raised here(USA) and never heard of him so he cant be much good.Such a shame this has happened to Natalee Justice will be hers one day. Until then these guys will be watched 24/7 and one will break. They will never know a normal life they will live in hell for what they have done.

4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok you made your point.
How would you like to pay someone else's bills?

5:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question to all:

Why do you think Beth has refused a one on one with Joran?

8:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didnt Know Beth Did refuse one!!
also with the pending lawsuit i am quite sure John Kelly has advised against it

8:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was high tide and sea water covering the beach slope, Koen's boat stayed out at a distance in the water and he didn't want the boat got stuck in the beach sand dunes. Joran didn't want his shoes get wet and he took them off. He and Deepak together carried Natalee's body and walking through the water towards Koen's boat where Koen kept the boat's motor running and positioning, it was high tide and high wind, the sea waves were strong and rough. For some unknown reasons Joran got some blood into his shoes when the suspects were trying to fit Natalee's body into the
crap cage. They might have to do some cuttings of the body in order to get all the body parts into the cage. The cage was not a coffin shape, it was square in shape, not long enough to fit a body of 5'4. So Joran put his bloody shoes into the square crab cage as well. Together the suspects dropped cage to the deepsea bottom and got rid of the forensic evidence. If Tim Miller can locate the crab cage, Joran's shoes are there. Joran is the murderer.

8:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth has not refused but if she will I would not blame her all he does is lie. All Beth wants out of him is to find natalee which I am sure he knows where she is. He is not worth trying to interview unless you are the FBI then that would be a interview everyone would love to see happen. Is he a coward? not to go to the fBI He is still lying.

9:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aruba needs to charge Joran and Paulas for what ever it has to pay out because they are the liers.

9:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Q Kelly will get to the truth of who killed Natalee wait and see.

9:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:29 She's refused twice actually. It's odd because I remember her saying that all she wanted was a one-on-one with him. Here's her big chance and she blows him off? Makes me think that the Aruban investigators must have found something pretty valuable when they reinterviewed those MB students.

Also, the lawsuit should make no difference whatsoever. The more he talks the better. If he's going on national televsion and giving interviews, what difference would it make? She said she wanted to talk to him, so do it then. Have your lawyer present, whatever. But refuse? It doesn't look right.

12:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a civil suit going on and if he's smart he won't be talking to anyone either because anything he says and has said will be used against him. As for Beth talking to him, why bother..can't believe anything he says. He says he won't even believe himself. His lawyer is starting out good. Joran says she wasn't intoxicated and tonight his lawyer on fox says she was. You sound real jealous of Beth. We all donate money to disasters here and overseas. If she or someone with a missing child needs help and I got it.. I will be there in a heartbeat. Last night's fundraiser was for missing adults over 18. I come from a community that had a missing child that turned up murdered. I know the nightmares a parent faces from it. If you think this is about money, you don't have a clue. How many cops send the parent of a missing child the bill for what it cost to investigate their child that's missing/murdered??? I could care less what's in Alabama..period.

1:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everybody needs to wait...this will all be sorted out. JVDS or whoever will come to justic over this. Remember it took the Martha Moxley/Kennedy couisn Skakele(sp?) incidedt 20+ years to be resolved.

I'm sorry to say however NH will still be gone, God rest her soul,
all concerned may not live to see it happen, BUT: it will all come to pass. The sad thing in all this is,yes, the killer may walk free for a long time but someday he/she will pay.

3:18 AM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who suggests that Beth Holloway, or anyone in affiliated with her in the search of Natalee, is in this for the media "attention" and/or "the money" is a jerk. Fair and square, flat out jerk.

Why do you THINK (if you can) that this stroy has media appeal?? Natalee is pretty. Natalee disappeared on a foriegn vacation destination that hangs on an image of safety. There is sex involved. THe cummulative result of just those three things is a BIG story. Add to that a desperate, attractive mother who would do anything to find her daughter, hiring high profile investigative teams and attorneys and that fuels the media sustainability. Would any parent out there not do the same of it was your famly with a teen missing???!!! Jeesh am I tired of reading the blogs of peole who have the audacity to suggest money or media as the Holloway's motivation.

As for Joran and company. It is very sad that the media goves this kid that time of day, bu they all are vying to be the interview where Joran "cracks", or Joran gives a clue, until then they'll take the ratings that come with the guys' interviews being aired on their station. It does not seem that this kid acts like an innocent man, though. His statements are damning. His Aruban lawyer refused to accompay him to the states, remianing in Aruba to defend his case. That alone should tell you something.

All the involved are cocky because they know where ever they placed Natalee, the likelyhood of her being found is nil. Until someone opens up and comes forward, these jerks are free to walk in the world. Mothers and Dads in Aruba and the Netherlands, protect your daughters. I see on Joran's blog on Zorpia, there are several young women who are his "friends". Where are their parents??? Where are their brains??? No one wants to believe that their judgement could be so far off that their friend could be the type to commit a violent crime. But, it happens all the time. Just look at the most famous murderes of the last century. All of them held jobs, had social lives, some with wives and families. I wonder how "secure" Joran's lady friends feel being around him -- I wonder more about the parents of Joran's lady friends - do they feel their daughters are safe with this cat? I
Dont be niave, protect yourselves and your kids.

7:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, have Mrs. Twitty go on national live TV or talk radio and answer questions that the American people have. She has opened her life to the public. Americans have opened their hearts and WALLETS to her family.

The talkhead programs are just a revolving door.... Same info just said by different family members.
over and over again. a least come up with something new and credible.

So whats next? peeling off the salvation army buckets stickers and hiring your own bell ringers?

Only in America

11:24 AM  
Anonymous mayan_moons said...

maaan, sucks to be you huh Joran?
hahaha ever since May 30, 2005 the freedom you once enjoyed is All Gone. before that night you were f'n King on that island...you had it all dude. granted you are getting away with what you've done to Natalee over there coz of PaPa but its not the same is it? Knowing your being watched 24/7, that the fbi has you tagged on a watch list when you travel.....never knowing who could be watching you and whoevers with you. yeah...thats gotta suck.

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well said Nonsense and Moon. He lies everytime his lips move.

5:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trust Joran after these interviews. Yeah! Sure.Believe me we all lie.

5:30 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

nononsense - the only one that is a jerk is you - there is absolutely no evidence of any real sex - and if there was some heavey contact it was certainly mutual since Natalee came on to Joran not the other way around - based on her friends on statements!

And I beg to differ - Beth has not in any way acted the way a normal grieving mom would act - she is way too interested in being seen and heard - not finding her dauthter!!

5:44 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Medley - Feeling a little defensive today??? If you are so insane about Joran and pals, why don't you just go to Carlos and Charlies and wait for the guy. He'll be back in one day and you can go for a walk on the beach with him .. don't forget your tazer, your mace and your dad.

How in the hell would you know how Beth Holoway has acted in grief - have you lifted one finger to be with her, in her fundraisers or home?? Have you SEEN her in her private life?? Uhhhh noooo. Until you walk at least three steps by her side, I suggest you keep your mouth shut. Your opinions are beyond stupid, they are insenstive to a desperate mother and devoid of any thought process at all. BFD that Beth has been in front of a camera using the media to heighten awareness to Natalees disappearance... what you YOU do after you've spent three months combing beaches, oceans, alleyways, garbage dumps and every other vile place??? Bless Beth that she has the kutzpah to get in the frey and fight for her daughter - and shame to you who suggests she is some vain idiot who has self interest. May you never, ever have a child missing Medley. Count your blessings everyday that you are NOT BH who can't open her eyes without thinking of where her daughter is and what ungodly thing cold have happened to her. Also, If you'd READ, I said there's sex involved, not sexual intercourse, not the whammy bammy - that is if we give Joran the benefit of the doubt. It will be interesting to see how ridiculous are you going to feel when this guy is found out and thrown in jail.

6:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Joran and OJ should go shoe shopping together, since Joran lost his the night Natalee went missing and OJ lost his the night Nicole and Ron were murdered. Wonder what else they have in common.

9:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New clues in the interview this kid is going down along with his buddies.

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

medleyrelay said...
And I beg to differ - Beth has not in any way acted the way a normal grieving mom would act - she is way too interested in being seen and heard - not finding her dauthter!!
So I guess John Walsh wants to just be Seen and heard also

10:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have the mother use her own dime to tell this tale. At least be a mother to that son of hers. She nagged the shit out of the daughter and the son is totally being ignored. Great parenting skills.

7:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Walsh's son WAS murdered they found a body.

BT has no body just a gut feeling.

Big difference.

7:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They never did find Adam Walsh's body just his head and John Walsh gave his opinion on this case long ago and he too thinks Natalee is dead along with VanderStraten who said he don't think Natalee's alive back in June along with Dompig who says it's a homicide along with the FBI who said they don't think Natalee is alive because the 3 were implicating each other in a crime, Steve Cohen who said these boys did something terrible to your daughter and they had sex with her, Karin Janssen who has said Natalee is the victim of criminal acts against her. You should be the perfect parent you are and let Beth worry about her homelife, thats nunya business. I think Beth has a stalkerstalkers, it seemss. We know what site you come from. John walsh also thinks the police botched the investigation into what happened to his son. What does this have to do with a girl on vacation with her classmates for 4 days who hasn't been seen since she was in the car with those 3??? Not a thing. I will let her son speak for himself.

3:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of you joran defenders are mentally ill. You have to be to say such rotton things about Natalee and Beth. What goes around comes around and I cant wait until you siffer like Beth has been made to suffer you are PURE EVIL.

5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Joran dint kill natalee Prove it Joe.

1:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what would have happened if an Alabama boy was the last to have been seen with Natalee. Would he have spent 3 months in the Aruba jail? Would the media have constantly fed the hysteria of that poor mother? Did the hysteria alter the focus of the investigation to preclude investigating other possibilities with the same thoroughness?

J. Socrates

10:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media should be ashamed for exploiting Natalee's family the way they did. The same goes for Joran's family. This could never have happened in America. Doesn't anyone believe in 'due process of law' and 'innocent until proven guilty.'
The media feels righteous in trying everyone without a shred of proof. Mrs. Twitty must be a nervous wreck with all she has been put through.

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth knows without the media Aruba would have never found the truth. Beth is one wonderful mother who will not seddle for less then the truth and justice for Natalee. I feel alot of other mothers would have given up by now and Beth will never give up until its solved and neither will her supporters.

5:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel Joran is not Quilty, he just looks to relaxed in his interviews. Also this lawsuit is going to take focus away from Natalee. It is going to be more about what happens between the families.

12:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boycoting Aruba is like boycoting California because they let Michael Jackson go free.

1:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are all missing the point. The media and Beth tried and convicted the Van Der Sloot family with out any evidence and this was encouraged by the public. It is totally wrong and a grave injustice has been done to all of the parties for the sake of sensationalism.

Wake up and stop letting the media manipulate you out of your common sense.

12:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media and Beth tried nothing. If Joran was innocent he could have totally cooperated and been honest about this from the beginning. He could be exhonorated by now. Instead he obstructed justice - and he hasn't even been charged for that - lying to the police and obstructing justice is a crime. That aside, Joran fueled his own demise. Beth simply wants her daughter back. It's that simple. Beth is using the media to keep the fire hot under the VDS and Aruba's butt - and rightfully so, considering the poor performance in this investigation. Common sense tells us that where there's smoke, there's fire, and these boys are into sky writing. Anymore obvious and they may as well go pick out which cell they want on the block.

5:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe it is alnost impossible for three young men to stay together and not implicate each other. The only way they could all stay quiet is to all have same quilt in Natalees dissappearance. And I cant see a 17 year old holding up to interrogations by proffessionals for 12 hrs a day, for months.

5:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran and his little crew are totally the ones who have all the answers. They all will Pay. Justice for Natalee will Be done.

5:37 PM  

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