Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Source: Van Der Sloot's In NYC
Developing...You heard it here first! The Van der sloots arrived Wednesday evening in New York. Joran touched down at JFK onboard a Delta Airlines flight shortly after 2pm. The Van Der Sloots are at The Lucerne Hotel in NYC.

Breaking News: Served!
The Van der Sloots have been served with a civil law suit by the Holloway’s and Twitty’s. ABC had been planning a face to face interview with the Van der Sloots (Joran, Paul & Anita). This information was learned from the Joran Van der Sloot Blog. Upon setting foot on American soil Paul Vander Sloot was served at his hotel. John Q. Kelly had a retired Scotland person sitting next to Joran on the plane and served him with papers on the airplane. Joran Vander Sloot were served with papers on the plane. (SM)

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Parents Sue Dutch Youth
The lawsuit, filed in Manhattan court, seeks unspecified money damages against Joran van der Sloot, 18, and his father. Both were served with a summons while in New York, a lawyer for the missing teen's family said. Referring to van der Sloot as "the predator," the lawsuit claims that on at least three occasions young Aruban women have complained they were the victims of date rape by him and accomplices. (AP)

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According to Nova Reporter Twan Huys, The Van Der Sloots together with ABC are stunned by the news. Joran Van Der Sloot reportedly insisted in coming to the US to sit down with ABC for the interview. The interview was arranged by Larry Garrison, Dave Holloway's publisher, who is reportedly in the works with Joran to publish a journal he kept in prison detailing his ordeal at KIA.

"Paulus and Anita were served at their hotel in NYC with a civil lawsuit, service witnessed by hotel staff. Further, the service was videotaped.Joran was served by former Scotland Yard agent on the plane as soon as the plane landed on American soil.The suit against Joran for three counts; sexual assault against a minor, false imprisonment, and malicious interference.Charge against elder Sloots not stated." - (

"Twitty, Holloway Lawsuit Most Likely Going Nowhere..." - Dan Riehl

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

U.G.L.Y.! You ain't got no Alibi! is clearly heard at the beginning of this video! Someone might not be such a big fan of Joran's after all. Not a very complimentary chant for young Joran and not what his parents had in mind with this farce of an interview.

9:16 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

Give me a break!!

9:45 PM  
Blogger dennisintn said...

maybe the vandersloots are going to address the united nations. got to get that terrible beth off their backs. jvds can join them and do his crying act like he does for judges on aruba. of course, i could be wrong, and maybe they're there to ask for help with the dengue fever outbreak the govt. is trying so hard to cover up.

10:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A sit down with Nancy Grace?

10:22 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

i hope no air time is given to him. this family has balls bringing this kid into the states, let alone nyc.

7:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That doesn't even look like Joran and who's the boytoy around his neck? Is Joran a switch hitter?

Anyway, enough of my 10 year old remarks. How about those tourism figures out of Aruba? OUCH. I bet the local government is feeling it now. Maybe you should have thought of that before. So sad. My advice? Go to and find a new job as yours may not be available much longer.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" Dr. M.L.King 1963

"The dead cannot cry out for justice;it is a duty of the living to do so for them" L.Bujold 2002

Do the right thing so we may rest. Thanks.

UK Oxford

8:48 AM  
Anonymous Papi Obamino said...

Antonio Carlo said recently in local Aruban papers that there was "NO way in hell Joran would sit down with the American reporter Nancy Grace. " I applaud that! I know Joran's been RE- offered his scholarship (soccer)at the south Florida college he originally planned to attend. They said about 3 weeks ago that Joran and his parents would be coming to tour the campus soon. Maybe that's one of the reasons he's here. South Florida has said they'll go out of their way to make him feel safe and at home here. They're incredibly supportive of the family.

9:05 AM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

I have no idea whether they or he are in NYC or not but a sitdown with Nancy is never gonna happen!!

9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they're meeting with a great NY attorney getting ready to sue all those who made all those slanderous accusations. I hope so.

9:26 AM  
Blogger dennisintn said...

a sit down with nancy grace? or greta? that would be a scream. the vds' would have nightmares for years over that. hope it happens soon.

9:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nancy certainly wouldn't sell out like GMA. She'd have them for lunch. I'd like to see it.

1:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, tell the truth if you know how. Be not afraid. It's just a little pin prick, there will be no more "AAAAAAAAAHHH".............


1:31 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

Well I hope he does go to South Florida - in about a year I will be living there - he will get all the support he needs from me when I get there!! I hope this clears up for him real soon!

2:13 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

If he's innocent, why would he want to take the dollars from those who are trying to find NH?? I would think, if he's innocent, that he'd be enthusiastically promoting the "let's find NH campaign" and not in anyway wishing to disrupt the funds supporting that effort... that is IF he is innocent.

S Fla campus can only protect him to a limited extent. This guy is on a frieght train bound for derailment. If I were one of his buds, I'd keep my distance. I'm sure most of his friend's parents are sounding that alarm loud and clear. Unless, of course, they practice the same poor parenting demonstrated by JVDS mother and father. I wonder if JS daddy's pockets are as deep as his political influence in Aruba??

2:17 PM  
Blogger dennisintn said...

lol, dream on, papi, and i've got a bridge in brooklyn i'd like to sell you cheap.

2:42 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

nononsense you really are on a oneman hate train about this guy - why are you so convinced of his guilt - what did he ever do to convince you within a shadow of a doubt of his guilt - sure would hate to ever see you on a jury - you are the people that give defense council nightmares!!

3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could be one of the primetime news shows you know the real news not cable sensationalism news shows like Greta, Nancy and Rita.

3:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go Beth Holloway!!! This is going to be interesting how it turns out. I hope justice is served. The new attorney is very clever!

4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a farce. Sexual assault aginst a minor? The only minor was Joran. False imprisonment? Where is the evidence that Natalee was raped and help against her will?
Where is the body to even prove there was a crime? The only thing proven is Natalee is missing.

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No way a guilty man would travel to the US! The tricks and trades of US law are well known to the Dutch. The Sloots must be pretty darned sure and innocent!

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who tricked them into coming to the USA? I bet they were lured by money. Bunch of cowards.

5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Welcome to America, Van der Sloots! Hope your trip is full of many more "surprises"!!!!!!!!!!!!

5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ik geef gewoon een reactie in het Nederlands! Joran en familie, zet hem op. Amirika is een heerlijk land, maar pas op voor het soms merkwaardige juridische systeem aldaar. Regards from the Netherlands.

6:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We under estimated the vandersloots in Aruba. Too bad for them, they returned the favor. Kudos John Q Kelly! You know what they say - "do the do before the do does you!"

6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

19 is the age of consent in Alabama. If he is so innocent why are you worried??? For 9 months everything has been in the dark in aruba behind closed doors without Beth's attorney allowed. Natalee has been talked about like a dog, as well as her family. Show me anyone who wouldn't be shouting at the tops of their lungs if their child was missing in another country and I will show you a person with no heart. It gets old blaming the victims. Natalee's family has been too nice too long. Nonesense..isn't a hateful person, she wants justice for Natalee as well as many others by looking at the dropping tourism numbers.

7:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And all the while the camera's were rolling......

He knows where she's at and she's not dead like everyone thinks....

But keep sending your hard earned money to the Americans.. mama needs a new pair of shoes.

DH-Book deal $$$$$
Bracelets $$$$$$
Civil Suit $$$$$
Equasearch salvation bucket $$$$
Autographed poster of missing $$$$
Silent Auction $$$$$$

And the list goes on.........

7:19 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

medley- i don't hate anyone, but i DO think this guy and his actions are highly suspect to say the least. His actions demonstrate a very low respect for women - and don't give me that sad sack crap about being a teenager. They place 13 year olds on trial as an adult for violent crimes, as they have the sense to know right from wrong. This guy KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING when he took NH out of that bar and when he LEFT HER on a beach (if we are to believe that). I hope Beth Holloway stays on this guys butt like a pit bull. If you don't think there's a cover up, you are totally niave.
HOw could you condone such an obviously screwed up person - his decision making was beyond bad, and his comments on the case were worse. I haven't said he is guilty, but he sure knows more than he's saying.

Like I said before, I wonder if daddy's pockets are as long as his crooked tentacles entwining the Aruban political system.

Welcome to the US, enjoy the university in Florida, I'm sure they are just thrilled to have JS running around on their campus. I wonder how many parents will complain and pull their daughters out of there next year. Loss of revenue for the university can make this guy go away real quick.

7:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pretty expensive move without a conviction.

Pretty sad the bloggers get the scoop before the talking heads do.

There you go Rita and Greta, now your ratings get a boost.

Love to watch Botox and maniquin mouth......comical.....

7:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumm is as Dumm does. Volgens mij hebben de "Van der Sloots" een bord voor de kop van hier tot Tokio. Mijn vader zei mij altijd: " Als je geschoren wordt, moet je stil zitten". Iets wat de "VanderSloets" nog moeten leren.

8:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sir, in row 23, what size shoes do you wear sir?"
(Looks and sees passenger is wearing blue plaid tablecloth and one shoe, size 13)
"No need to ask your identity, sir."
"We are out of the NY Times, but here is some reading material for the remainder of your flight, sir."

You've been served!!!! And so the story goes...

2:10 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Well, let's have no nonsense now, we can swallow the happiness of paparazzi by this new item now! The hate campaign can go on again.

3:58 AM  
Blogger Matthew said...

geez you people are really being mislead by your country, just like on the war on terror. thousands of innocent young men being killed in iraq for what? for you? people who promote democracy but do not give the VDS a fair chance or even abide by the laws of your own country where you are innocent until proven guilty.... i see no evidence that Joran is innocent. you are nothing more than hypocrtical thrillseekers who have nothing better to do in your lives than to slander innocent people. all this so called evidence and all they could do is file a civil suit... for money? now that sponsers are closing the funding tap they need to get their money from somewhere, just file a civil suit. that is all people care about in the US, money. think iraq is really about democracy, it is about oil, money, about dick cheney's becoming more richer and little baby bush playing into the hands of his father. as an american living overseas, you people make me sick, this is not the country i can call home anymore. a bunch of biggots who scare at anything that is not american. your time will come, trust me, an america will be begging on the steps of other countries when you deficit will hurt even the most common of people. take care of your homeless, war veterans and health policies first, to help real americans and not only your hypocritical selves!

6:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What will happen if the FBI discovers that Joran's mother Anita van der Sloot is involved in this crime from day one ?
What if she took care of the body of Natalee Holloway ?

7:28 AM  
Blogger dennisintn said...

just the beginning. watch and weep, jvds apologists.


8:46 AM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

River you are so right - do you have any idea how upset I am right now - In my entire life I never remember anything more horrible than what John Q Kelly set up the VDS and Joran - I mean one might think they were the highest level of the mob or something - the way this caper was detailed on Greta last nite - every minute detail - it was sickening and disgusting and I am so outraged - I just do not know how people can not see this horrible family the Holloway Twits for what they are - publicity grabbing - money grabbing low life scumbags - this is all to keep their little faces in the news - to kick off the sherrif campaign of Bethie - this will set back any case in Aruba - it will do nothing to help find out what happens to Natalee - truly pathetic!

8:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

medleyrelay said...
Well I hope he does go to South Florida - in about a year I will be living there - he will get all the support he needs from me when I get there!! I hope this clears up for him real soon!

Medley, get over it..Joran will NERER sleep with you ;-)


papi Obamino said... blah blah blah
Florida huh??? I would personally take a trip to the ol'panhandle and whoop that mutha-f*&^% ass...welcome??? my left knee

UGLY you aint got no albi you UGLY...thats the best ever

was that song directed to Anita??oink oink??

Thanks JVDS blog-!Great Job!

K-in Maryland

9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Medleyrelay, you are a mess. I'm assuming you're not going to South Florida now because you are underage just like "The Lost Girl". Don't go for Joran for he won't be there. Your naivety is showing your age. He will never be yours, so move on with your life. Find a new tree. Dress it up anyway you like. Joran is a liar, has always been and will always be. Unfortunately, He doesn't know any better anymore. His parents have conditioned him to be that way. Blame them. However, now he and his parents have to face the American legal system. People who are innocent don't need to lie and Joran did. Time and again. This should be simple enough for even you to understand. Lying is not allowed in the US Cort system. That's why they take an oath. The fact remains that Joran knows more than than he's telling and has admitted that. He will now get his chance in a US Court of Law. In my humble opinion, he should have just told the truth from the beginning and it wouldn't have to come to this. He's in a lot of trouble now and he's taking his family and Aruba with him. What he did was wrong and now it's time to pay for his mistakes. Best of luck.

L. Van Der Roew, Esq.

9:25 AM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Think strategy. This keeps JVDS and Natalee front and center in the public eye. Does anyone get this? There will be no let down on this case until there is satisfaction on NH whereabouts. The case of the suit is secondary to the primary goal, which is to elevate awareness and pressure on those alledgedly responsible, as well as those we may not have knowledge of as yet. Think broader goal. Like I said, if this guy thinks he's merrily attending a US university, he may wish to reconsider. Any college that takes him in is going to lose revenue from parents who withdraw their kids. And, the university is going to need to watch him like a hawk, additional security, the works. Some university PR person is selling the dean of students on the PR aspect of this, without thinking the whole thing through. Not good for any US school situtation. THis guy should go to Europe or somewhere, anywhere else than US soil, for his own good and if nothing else to show sensitivity to the NH situation. Jeehz, why or why is so difficult for this guy to have some humility in this god-awful sitiuation. He's got a broken sensitivity chip in his brain....

10:03 AM  
Blogger dennisintn said...

what have you found in jvds and paulus NOT to hate?

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHERE'S THE PROOF??? Everybody keeps forgeting about that. I hope the Van Der Sloots hit the Holloway's back with conter-suit for all the slander she has done!

11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Medley, except for a few vigilantes most people see Beth Twitty for what she is a lying vindictive money hungry person who could care less about finding the truth about her daughter just wants to seek her misguided vengeance. Don't worry about the lawsuit it will go nowhere. I hope the VDS's do testify and show the Twitty's for what they are..

1:17 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Whatever it takes, they'll get him. The old Yank way, for the good or the bad! Then that soapy bleating of the alknowing nononsense! Well, at this moment you'll have your party's! But, as I said before "Looft de dag niet voor het avond is" (goole it, nononsense, maybe you'll find out what it means)

1:18 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Ghengis Khan could wipe out half of Aruba, and with their current justice system there'd be "no proof". There was no "proof" for OJ, either, but we all know the score there. Would you or would you allow your daughter to day OJ?? Yeah, right. Gimme a break. Safe for tourists, SURE it is. It's not safe for anyone that isn't corrupt. "Aruban Truth" is the best oxymoron in this century. Quit crying "hate", I never even implied the word. If that's all you have to offer in defense, then JVDS and his band of merry men are in a bigger pickle than they could possibly have the intellect to grasp.

1:24 PM  
Anonymous leni fransen said...

WOW!!! Jeff Feiger has offered to represent the family PRO BONO. He said he feels that Joran has been unjustly accused, slandered and libeled, and it has to stop. He also said he's having them definitely do the Primetime Live interview and that the country is going hear alot about Beth and Jug that isn't very pretty!! I , for one, can't wait!!

1:27 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

I LOVE the people who raise IRAQ and every other political issue possible in an attempt to compare to JVDS issure. This blog is bout Natalee Holoway. I alos find it VERY interesting that in the defense of JVDS that no one seem interested in the point... where is NH?? And, if the defenders of JVDS, including JVDS and "gang", really truly want justice, then they should be BHT BIGGEST SPONSOR. They, above all other people should want to find NH and by now be willing to do just about ANYTHING to make that happen.

As far as the theory of BHT using the money for personal indulgences - yeah your right, I can see that, can't you?? Especially the designer clothes, mercedes car, and the work she's had done on her face is remakable. WHAT O WHAT ARE YOU FOLKS SMOKIN??

And, quit it with the "hate" scream. It's getting old and is not relevant to the dialog. All the good, law abiding folks want is justice, closure and peace for all involved in this case. If it comes to pass NH is alive and hiding (ludacris), then the Holloways will stand and face the US and Aruban legal system, just the same as JVDS. But, until NH pops up unscathed,(yeah, right?!), I'd say JVDS has some explianing to do with regard to his mixed stories about the events that transpired that fateful night.

1:39 PM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

We know, nononsense! Drugged, raped, killed, and so on, and so on. Yes, the media, the money, publicity......., the poor Beth and so on.

It's the way people like you nononsense, who make people look like some insensitive bastards! Just your way of adressing people like myself and others who think like me (unguilty until prooven); your intense haughtyness and self-satisfation way oof profiling yourself as the almighty mother knowing all!

Just tyr to read between the lines of the posts, and then you might discover the way some people are thinking.

Maybe I'm not expressing my self in the right way, simply because I'm Dutch from Antillian origine; so my native tongue is not English. But that's something you'll not give a damn about.

1:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I hope the Van Der Sloots hit the Holloway's back with conter-suit for all the slander she has done!"

I was thinking the exact same thing, given the fact that there is no proof that he actually did something to hurt NH (is she dead, is she abducted, where is the body if she's dead?) this is just slander and they could sue them right back. If there's no proof than this is just reputation damage.

1:46 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

well I am so glad you all think I have a "thing" for Joran - that is truly pathetic since I have sons older than Joran - but most of you that hate on him think only evil sick thoughts about anyone that supports "innoent until PROVEN guilty" go on and spew your hate on this family - someday I just hope they get their just revenge!!

1:53 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

There are many many missing people - and all the time you read stories where missing people, for a variety of reasons turn up years later. Who knows what was going thru Natalee's mind - there are plenty of indications that she was a very troubled unhappy young girl - she could have run away, she may have drown, how do we know? And to think the Joran could be behind the perfect crime and there is absolutley no trace of her and no evidence - well those are the people that smoking the funny stuff becuz a 17 year old is not capable of that! no way no how!

3:58 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

No, but a really smart, well-educated, well-connected attorney with deep influence on a small island judicial system certainly could make the evidence disappear... easily in fact.

I didn't say JVDS is guilty. I SAID that he and his family are insensitive, and not very smart for being in the US. Not a good move. And, if they hate the US so much, ya know with our crappy political system, IRAQ and the other BS that's thrown around on the blog - then what in the hell are they doing here???

As for JVDS, his "story" or should I say "stories" about that night are inconsistent and contradictory. This certianly places a great deal of doubt with regard to his crediblity.

We're not going to solve this case on this blog, but I'll wager that NH is dead, not missing as the hypthetical "runaway girl". Where and how would she hide on an that small island for this duration of time without being spotted??? Also, in order for her to be alive and an escapee to where? Venezuela? she'd need to have had all this planned way in advance with accomplices, etc. The idea that she'd be able to pull THAT off is not credible.

4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So much rage. It's brilliant. Nothing clouds judgement like pure unadulterated anger. Rik, old boy. You're getting yourself in a tizzy as is Medley. There has been so much Bulls**t rhetoric in the media and this blog, that we ALL have lost sight of why we came here in the first place. I've read more on the subject of Hate, Iraq, Aruba, The Media, The Holoways, The Van Der Sloot's, The economy, Americam Justice, how everyone hates the Americans,The Dutch, revenge, etc. than I ever have about Natalee. Drop the agendas and let's get back to basics. Regardless of what he and his cronies did or did not do to NH. She is still missing. Anyone who thinks these boys have no knowledge of what happened to her that night are sorely misguided. Why all the story changes if he's innocent? Joran didn't do this to you. He did it to himself. I just want the TRUTH. The Holloways just want some closure. The VDS's just want there lives back. This has become a media company's wet dream (pardon to those offended) and of course the Holloways are taking full advantage of it. Try for a moment to consider that it was your son or daughter missing. Better yet, consider it was you missing. Wouldn't you want some peace for your family and friends?
In short, we just need the truth and the Holloways are just trying to find some. Everyone of you would want the same thing. I hope.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it
Marcus Aurelius


4:27 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Well said, Lars.

Yes, NH is still missing.

Peace of mind is also missing.

Closure is missing.

Truth is missing.

Justice is missing.

BHT is using the media in an attempt to find the missing. It's pretty much that simple.

4:39 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...


You cant' MAKE people appear insensitive, they either are or aren't.

You can't MAKE people guilty, they either are or aren't.

If I were the VDS's you'd never find me attempting an interview, book signing deal or any other deal on a missing woman's story. These people should be on the BHT bandwagon, cooperating in an effort to help her find her daughter, clear their son's name, so everyone can get on with their lives.

The resistance only distracts and porlongs the time and efforts to bring this case to conclusion. Naturally, there may be a reason they make the decisions they do... we are all left to imagine the reasons why.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nononsense1, then why don't we call this the Beth Twitty blog, and track her every move in this case? Or is she scared we'll find out what she's REALLY up to....

5:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The VDS can make the circuit to Current Affair, GMA and fly across the country to another interview, but when given a chance to come to the police station a few blocks away to help clear up the timeline on the night Natalee went missing, Who was a no show???! If their son was so innocent like Nonsense said, they should be cooperating and helping find answers what did happen to Natalee.. Everything they have done so far, doesnt point towards wanting to find Natalee or what happened to her.

This has nothing to do with Iraq, or any other thing someone tries to throw in to deflect from Natalee.

The VDS and the Kalpoes got themselves where they are today. I'm so tired of hearing someone tricked them. They are suing their own govt. for what they brought on themselves. The security guards were picked out from the start to take the fall for them. Beth became their next victim, when that didn't work.

5:09 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

Insensitive - give me a break - nite one the Twit party proved that they were no playing with a fair deck when they rode into the VDS in the middle of the nite screaming obsenities - so give me a break - they wanted to play by the cowboy rules - or maybe go back to the time when they burnt people at the stake - whatever after that the VDS had no reason to cooperate or do squat - except keep their mouth shut.

I happen to know that the VDS felt very comfortable with ABC news and for whatever reason I guess they believed they could speak once again with them - and they were duped by someone - probably Dave and company this time.

Certainly by now they will know that they can trust noone!

5:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Show me a parent who wouldn't be upset if their child was missing?? and we know any parent who is isn't playing with a full deck. Ask the parents of missing kids.

When Jug went to the door Joran claimed first he didn't even know Natalee.. even in his Current Affair interview he said when shown her picture he didn't know her or her name... So who were they sitting around making the lie up about the Holiday Inn??? Jane Doe??? Joran used that lie when the cops came to the door and they said it was a group lie.. A group lie they concocted, they wouldv'e had to make it up earlier and Natalee wasn't even reported missing then.. Who makes up a lie or alibi before a missing person or crime has been reported?? I don't know a father or mother around who wouldn't be upset and distraught if their child was missing. Next Joran went to Holiday Inn to show them the guard and when they got their he couldn't do it. It wasn't just Natalee's family there it was the cops also.. They gave the cops the false story about the Holiday Inn, not the "cowboys" as you like to say.

5:42 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Well why DON'T we call this the BT blog and follow her every move?? I think that's a GREAT idea. What will you say when there's nothing, but nothing, other than a woman pulling out the stops to find her missing daughter? Beth has nothing to hide, so track her. The VDS's arent' looking for their son, BHT is looking for her daughter. If the case were reversed, I'm sure the VDS's WOULD have beth followed everywhere in the chance they could find their son.

It doesn't matter HOW COMFORTABLE the VDS's feel with ABC news or any other news. They should have the good common sense to not be in the US. If ABC wanted the intervoew that badly, they have the means to do that in Aruba or any other country for that matter. You know what would have made a statement?? That they agree to an interview, as long as any payment go tot he Twitty's to help find Natalee. Maybe if they start going that route, they'd begin to rebuild some of the lost credibility. They have the ability to turn this around. Until they do, Beth is giong to be in their face, everyday and every night, 24/7.

5:53 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

sorry wrong - they were called by Joran's father on the cell phone - so they had 5 or 10 minutes to make up a stupid lie - there are always security guards around - they never described them - Joran was NOT home when the Twit posse arrived! He came 15 min later - time for the lie.

Guys often have no idea the names of girls that jump on them for oral sex - Girls today seem to love to almost attack guys for that purpose - a guy certainly does not need to know the name to enjoy that - ask President Bill!!!

7:51 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

President Bill knew her name. Is that the best you can come up with?

8:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure that she jumped on him for oral sex. Maybe in your mind and a few others. Funny Dompig says . in Joran's statements .. Joran says Natalee was going in and out of consciousness.. That's been the whole defense smear Natalee and the parents.

8:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NADIRA gave a June 22 "FoxNews" interview to GRETA where she said both Current Suspect D. KALPOE and Current Suspect S. KALPOE admitted lying that the “Holiday Inn” lie #1 was nothing but a conspiratorially group concocted lie, and the reason they told her they did it is because Principal Suspect J. SLOOT was their friend.

Current Affair
Current Suspect J. SLOOT: Well, because, obviously, all of us lied. We agreed to lie. I was the first one that changed my story. I don’t think they liked that, so they changed their story.

Arrested security guard on Greta's show.

JOHN: No (INAUDIBLE) never knew who he was, because he certainly was calling me Jamaican. He thought I was from Jamaica. So he was just talking to me freely and, you know, no problem.

I spoke to him more, and I tell him, "Tell me the truth," asking, "You saw the guy on the news?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Where the guy from?" He tell me, he think from Grenada. And right away, I knew he was talking about me, because I was the only one from Grenada.

So I decided to ask him a few more questions. And I said, "So you tell the guy (INAUDIBLE) what happened to the girl?" He said, "No." (INAUDIBLE) arrested on Thursday. I think a guy should be released that Friday, because, in their hearts, they know we were innocent.

He said a story being made up about dropping the girl of at a Holiday Inn, was all something being made up. He, and the Dutch guy, and the Dutch guy's father, they sit and made up the story.

VAN SUSTEREN: The father, too?

JOHN: All of them. They made up...

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he specifically say — Deepak specifically say to you the father was part of that?

JOHN: Deepak told me that he and the family sit down and they made up the story.

VAN SUSTEREN: So family and not father?

JOHN: Well, I don't know who the family consists of. But I know the father was involved, according to him. They made up the story, and they say that they didn't drop the girl off, because they said they would give the police something to (INAUDIBLE) when somebody is missing in Aruba, they would find them a few days later by a crack house or with some beach bum or something.

So they made it up. But then, when push come to shove, and nothing was going on, he decided to tell his brother, "We're going to tell the truth and say exactly what took place," because he — I guess that much, he, by that time, he and the Dutch guy were saying different stories, so something wasn't going right.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did they say why they created the lie?

JOHN: Like I told you, they say like — they were hoping that something the girl would pop up or something, a few days after. And as I said, they drop her off at the Holiday Inn talking to a black guy, security guard dressed in black clothes. Said they know, like, everybody in public knows a tourist has been missing. They would find them a few days later, by, like I said, by some crack house or with some beach bum. So they made up something hoping that she would show up a few day and then they say, "OK, it all good. There she comes."

VAN SUSTEREN: But under the now story, which is that they dropped the Dutch teen and Natalee off at the beach, Deepak and Satish hadn't done anything wrong. So why did they need a cover story?

(Entire interview,2933,161044,00.html)

Vanity Fair.. Satish isn't even mentioned.

The group returned to the van der Sloot home. Joran and a friend, a young Surinamese man named Deepak Kalpoe, were waiting in the driveway. The two policemen took the two of them aside. Jug Twitty and his two friends stood by as Joran answered questions. At first he denied any knowledge of Natalee, insisting he didn't even know the name. Twitty began to grow impatient. "Don't say you don't know who she is," Jug said. "We have eyewitnesses who saw you both in the car."

9:08 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

Nononsense - you missed the whole point - since ole Billy boy girls think this is a game - they truly do jump on guys to give them this thrill - it starts early in highschool and continues - until the girls might finally wake up to what a real relationship is - but I can tell you many many of the girls are the aggressor in this encounter and not the guys!!!

And if Natalee had been drinking ALL day like has been reported I would imagine by midnite or 1 a.m. she would be not quite with it - but Joran is not to blame for her drinking all day and all nite - he was with her maybe 1/2 hour in C&C's so no one can blame him for her state!

9:13 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Oh Medley please stop with your total illogical perspective - it makes one bit of difference how long NH was drinking or with whom she was drinking that day or if she gave the entire Aruban police force BJ's --- none of this matters!! What matters is the inconsistencies of JVDS stories, the fact that he did have her with him in a car, the alleged fact that he left her intoxicated on a beach alone. Criminy girl, if this was your son or daughter, under the same circumstances -what would you be thinking?? WHAT would you be doing?? Sitting in your house twidling your thumbs??! Defending persons who last saw your child because there is "no proof"......pleeeeease

9:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is pretty insane. How can Joran be sued in the United States? I do not think Joran is an angel, but I have not seen any proof yet against him in the Holloway case. I have seen Dr. Phil change videotapes, copying and pasting a bit. Joran, if there is evidence against him, should be tried in Aruba.
What if an American commits a crime against a Dutch person here in the US? Can he be tried in the Netherlands? I would not think so...the US is against all those agreements...

9:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is Charles Croes saying Joran told that story between 3 and 5 am so if he did and it was a group lie, they would've had to get together earlier to make it up before Natalee was reported missing.

VAN SUSTEREN: It's about 5 o'clock in the morning on Tuesday, May 31st. She missed her flight on Monday, the 30th, midday.

C. CROES: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: There's been absolutely no news, no newspaper cycle, to indicate that Natalee Holloway is missing, right, at that point?


VAN SUSTEREN: So somehow Joran decided to come up with this lie about the Holiday Inn, assuming that's a lie, and I guess that's pretty much been accepted as a lie?

C. CROES: All right.

9:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These would be the tapes edited by dr. Phil:

As reported by tPC weeks ago, On the Dr. Phil show, Deepak Kalpoe told a polygraph expert on tape that he and his brother Satish had sex with missing Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway.

According to the new police chief in Aruba, the change in Deepak Kalpoe's statement could have a profound effect on the case.

"They always denied having sex with this young girl," said Deputy Chief Gerald Dompig, according to the AP. "And so, in looking at the tapes, to watch if this is really what this gentleman has said, then it is totally contrary to what he has declared at our police station."

Dompig also indicated that the new version of the story could land Kalpoe back behind bars.

Dompig, joined MSNBC's Dan Abrams on Wednesday to discuss the status of the case. He told Abrams that police have requested the tapes from the Dr. Phil show.

"ABRAMS: So, if those tapes are verified by you, are you going to re-arrest Deepak Kalpoe?

DOMPIG: Of course, that's one of the strong possibilities. Don't forget that we do have to follow tactical issues and strategies."

Beth Holloway Twitty appeared by video tape and offered this statement: "I've seen several of Joran's statements. And I don't know why he was released. He has her coming in and out of consciousness repeatedly throughout his statements. You know, he admits to bringing her to his home. And he even gives a date and a time, 1:40 a.m. on May the 30th, and, you know, has sex with her in his home."

Police Chief Dompig went on to say that the information Holloway Twitty is "Not true. As I said earlier, also, we are re-reading all the statements at this moment. And there's no statement of that kind," Dompig said.

"The only statement that comes close is that he had a plan -- he wanted to go to the house to have sex or whatever, and they stopped in front of the house, but they did not leave the car. So they didn't go into the house. That's his statement ..... I think that maybe somewhere, somehow Beth saw the statement -- it was translated, or she didn't get the statement completely the way it is. But I assure you this is the statement."

Twitty said she and Natalee's father, Dave Holloway, are going back to Aruba next week.

Water searches will reportedly be conducted and the Texas-based Equisearch will once again head back to the island to help search for Natalee, who has been missing since Memorial Day weekend.

9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about this one...

Joran (who was 18, and according to his country's drinking laws, was allowed to drink) and Natalee (who was not allowed to drink according to her country's drinking law) went to the beach. They messed around, and she wanted to stay there. She passed out, and someone else came that committed a crime, having the perfect alibi, never being seen, leaving Joran with the mess..

I am not saying it happened, but it is a I think the case should be investigated further before a witch hunt could ruin the life of a teenager who might or might not be guilty...he is innocent until he is proven guilty....

10:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On October 14. when “MSNBC” asked DOMPIG “Now, did Joran—we‘ve heard from the family, Chief, that—you know, that Joran was claiming in some statement that she was going in and out of consciousness. Have you seen that anywhere?,” DOMPIG replied “Yes, that's definitely in the statements, and that‘s why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn‘t accept that because that‘s basically a felony in Aruba.”

On November 20 DOMPIG told “FoxNews” that he agrees with BETH that NATALEE was not sold into sex slavery. “The investigation gives us sufficient grounds to believe that we are dealing with a homicide, probably, and there is a slight--very slight--chance, in my mind, that she is still alive.” “I still believe that these three boys are all involved.”

10:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran has been threatened to get killed...what if he is not guilty?

10:28 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

nononsense - this will be the last time I ever respond to one of your insane comments -

Joran was 17 like a 17 year old teen realizes that a girl that has been drinking for HOURS that he hardly knows and you are telling me that he should feel some responsibility for her - why he did not even know her - our teens allow each other to get in cars and drive after drinking huge amounts of alcohol - they do not think they live for the moment - they are selfish - they certainly do not have any empathy for someone that was basically an easy one nite whatever - so yes I think it is very possible that Joran just left her on the beach - should he have been more considerate probably, but that is the way teens think - and if she was getting clingy and if she was in a strange mood and venting about her family life - like Joran alluded to he probably was thinking "I am out of here"
And I say and have since I first heard about the posse - that was when this case went wrong - you dont go swinging and flinging hate and expect to get any cooperation - so my first action would have been totally different than the Twits - so I personally think I would be at a better point right now!

10:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a fact of life, I do not believe anything Fox News said. They also said there were WMD's in Iraq...

10:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We know if you don't like the message shoot the messenger. unless it agrees with you..

11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee stayed on the beach alone in the middle of the night, Joran walked home 2 miles barefooted, and Deepak was cleaning his car at 3:30 am for ants. Next fairy tale.

Natalee has no history of behaviour like that, until the night she was with them and it's all Joran's side that's been told cause guess who is no where to be found to tell her side. Even Dompig says it would take days to tell all the lies they told.

11:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To say that Natalee did not have a behavior like that is ludacris. Again, I am not saying Joran is not guilty, but before this witch hunt was released, there should have been more evidence...there is not even certainty that there was a homicide....

11:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will never believe Fox...even if it agrees with me..I see news published daily on Fox that cannot be spotted in any other news the world...or at least in Brazil, Spain, Germany, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Belgium, and France..I cannot read the other ones....

12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee has a behaviour record of staying on beaches alone in the dark?? I will take the word of her classmates and community of 18 years not someone has a big motive to lie and who Dompig says has repeatedly.. The statements like that have all come from Joran and Deepak.. wonder why???????? Natalee was the victim of foul play. 4 people left and 3 came back, she had no money or clothes, no nothing with her. She had no passport. She didn't fly out nor did she walk on water.

12:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fox news has nothing to do with WMD knowledge except what is passed on to them and everyone at the UN. read the CIA's report and said Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction. Congress even seen it and agreed. Fox news has nothing to do with decisons about wmd or war.

12:23 AM  
Anonymous Sue said...

You all must remember Under Dutch law they do NOT release any evidence or witnesses as it will ruin the investigation it is all brought fourth in trial not before.. I think that is why Jorans lawyer is trying to get him released because Karin will have to release information she has to have a trial go fourth.. This next ruling will be a big one.. But has it was said today out of Aruba even if they release Joran from this , if any evidence comes forward that can still re arrest him and file charges, 2 weeks the ruling will be in

12:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fox has a lot to do with how it was brought though...

3:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not saying that she has gone to beaches before...I am just not saying that she has not been an angel (according to similar stories in the media that are coined about Joran)..just like many teenagers..does not seperate her from a lot of other teenagers. Also, I am NOT saying that if anything happened that it was her fault. A person that would commit a crime would still be at fault.
All I was doing was contradicting the other people that are trying to throw this on image (for example Joran's). Let's just wait for evidence, because many Americans are just getting in way over their head (e.g. death threats, posting private pictures on every website of Joran).

3:47 AM  
Anonymous river_52 said...

Last response to the nonsense of nononsense! Pleeeeease, learn something about average teens and step down from your crystal throne and learn what real life is about.

7:10 AM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

I'm raising an average 17yr old and 13 yr old teen(s). I check their myspace, I check their web history, I TALK to them about sex, life, and just about every other thing there is that could throw a curve in their direction. I was a party girl in "the day", so I know very, very well what goes on out there. My 17 yr old's opinion on JVDS is that he was "just wrong" and "Stupid" to have taken NH to a place a leave her.... yes, Medley, even if he only knew her 5 mins. At least you conceded the "he could have been more considerate" WOW, yes, and at 17 , JVDS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE RESPONSIBLE. There are 13 year olds being tried as adults for violent crimes, so at 17 JVDS knows full and damn well how to act in a responsible manner. Stop making feeble efforts at excuses for the guy. Considering Medely and River's attitudes toward parenting, I am very glad my kids aren't hanging with yours!!! Eventually, the truth will come forward, and until it does the JVDS family should find haven elsewhere, anywhere other than the US. If JS's parents have his best interests at heart, they would not have him in the US. Maybe they're hoping some nutjob will take their 6'5" problem off their hands for them. Who knows, as their decisions are very poor in the regard to their parental responsiblities.

I spend A LOT of time in the islands. The US travel agencies should do a much better job of preparing tourists for their trips - especially high school and college spring breaks. It is generally not safe to walk alone late at night, on the beach or anywhere else. Always have a friend and make a pact that you don't separare - no matter what. It is generally not a good policy to go with any local unless you know them well, or they are employed by your travel agency. No one prepares these kids. They go on vacation thinking, fa la la, I can do whatever, whenever, and it's simply not true. There's plenty of error in judgement to go around. I keep waiting for the VDS's to demonstrate some kind of remorse or sense of responsibility for their very, very poor decisions. None yet, and I doubt whether any are coming... this more than anything else exemplifies the type of people they REALLY are.

9:17 AM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

River - I could not agree more - the biggest problem with Nononesense is her total lack of understand of the teenage mind or the actions of young people - I cannot believe how some people want to put their head in the sand about what young girls will truly do - to young guys that they have just met - and how stupid and naive young guys can be about most everything!!

12:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So nononsense...if it would be the case (which, still not has to be it happened of course) that the only mistake JVDS made is that he left her at the beach - he should have been hunted down like this?

1:42 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

Well that is sure talking out of both sides of your mouth - the islands are unsafe, travel agents should prepare young people - well then why is it for certain that Joran did anything more than leave her alone - and some of those other really bad people did not come along and do her in?? why Joran, I tell you he is innocent - he is sorry he left her there - he acted stupid - it was late, he regrets that - but should he be held responsible for what happened after that? And what have the VDS done that was such bad parenting - no different than Beth (not Dave since he did not want Natalee to go) but Beth sent her on this little lah lah lah vacation, which she was out of her element on - and she drank and drank and probably had no good judgement at 1 a.m. and who knows what happened - but that was Beth's poor judgement- so there is lots of bad judgement all around - but that does not mean until there is evidence that this family should be crucified in the media and found guilty of whatever!! People - almost all people - should be innocent until proven guilty!!

1:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, guess what, that is what the law is in the Netherlands - they are still innocent now.

Anyways, the islands are not that unsafe. Is it less safe than an average suburban town in the US? Yes - but not really really unsafe. Letting her go was not bad judgment. Making decisions there was more bad judgments than anything - so if she would have made bad decisions there (which I do not know either) then that was a problem in rearing her, not in letting her go. Should you let 17 and 18 y/o's not travel the world? I think you can, as long as they are raised well. You see enough of them backpacking aroundt the world (and in places a lot less safe than Aruba).

2:06 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Yes you can be 17 or 18 and travel the world if you possess good common sense and a set of brains. And,you can have fun and party too, if you have good common sense and a set of brains. Teens have differing maturity levels at 17 - 18, so the parents need to help make those judgement calls, so their kids don't end up on the front page of a newspaper, or back page depending where you are in the world. However, if a destination touts "safe, party fun for your senior trip", then it better deliver on the promise. This is where Aruba has failed miserably. It's one thing that NH has gone missing, it's quite another that the investigative team makes the Marx brothers look like serious drama.

There's plenty of responsbility to pass around, including the club owner that was over-serving these teens. Anyone fine him, or is there no liquor law in Aruba...
Everyone has said how drunk they all were - so is Carlos & Charlie's still open for business as usual? Still sending teens out staggering drunk? Bet "the boys" still pop in for a pop, too, don't they?

As for Joran, no, leaving NH at the beach is not the ONLY bad judgement call he made that night, according to his account, oops more correct to say multiple accounts of the evening in question. He should not have allowed her in the car at all. And, if she refused to get out, they could have sat there, parked until she did. And if he willingly accepted responsibility to take her out somewhere, then it's his responsbility to get her back to point of origin or her hotel lobby. JVDS is not a 3 year old and should have this minimum sense of responsibility.

I believe the public outrage burst with PVDS comment, "no body, no crime." That is OTT. First, it is very inappropriate to say under the circumstances, secondly it is a strange thing to say when, as nearly every blogger has pointed out, Natalee could be alive. Why would PVDS go to the "no BODY" reference - why not say something like, "look this girl went partying and will undoubtedly pop-up somewhere", unless of course he knew something more than he was admitting. The "no body" comment, combined with the very inadequate testimonial of JVDS, Kalpoes, etall, PLUS the bungling Aruban police authorities - all this together adds up to a very very suspicious activity surround NH.

Medley, the negative percentage of any subject permiate the listening audience with more power than the positive. The majority of teens are good kids, that are not jumping on each other at every turn as you would have all believe. Most teens would have gone partying and watched out for one another. NH friends let her down, NH let herself down and JVDS let himself down. Plenty of responsibility, as I said, but guess what- still no NH. And, I stand by what I said before, the US is the last place JVDS parents should have brought their son - that's just stupid and insane judgement. If you were a citizen of the US, and your kid was suspect in a crime on Aruba, would you take him back into that country for anything other than legal purposes??? Totally brain dead move, unless PVDS was trying to force a move, who knows.

They can be innocent now, but they should be innocent somewhere else. It's too dangerous for JVDS in the US - there just are too many zealots out there.

3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is being hunted down around the world, so maybe he took the courage to defend himself on US media...he has no life now, with all the people hunting them down. So again, not knowing that he is, but imagine he is innocent - he should not go to the US anymore?? That is an insane thought.

About the liquor law: I imagine Aruba has the same law as the Netherlands: 16 for beer, 18 for hard liquor. The US is about the only place (besides Sweden I think) in the world where you have to be 21.

And you are saying that it is bad responsbility on JVDS' part of leaving her there. What if she absolutely refused to go back with him? I can imagine that a foreign teen, with US law in the back of the head thinks: "Hey, maybe if I take her back with me against her will, I get sued". Again..(otherwise there will be, like you mentioned zealots, responding again - I do not know whether he is guilty or not) purely hypothetical, but I do not want to pass judgments here.

About the negativity versus positivity bias - you are completely right nononsense. Not nearly all teens are jumping each other, etc. However, if you do go to a senior trip destination to a random bar - chances are that there are far more teens jumping one another (to use the terms previously used) than in any other place (especially if there are American teens involved, since the US knows strict drinking laws. Go to Amsterdam, and see which people are the least in control concerning marijuana, alcohol, etc. - not saying that all Americans are like that, but those that select the destinations that have more liberal laws are).

4:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, let me modify that judgment somewhat - MANY Americans that select those 'liberal' destinations are like that. Not nearly all..

4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way - I do not think that there are many countries in which you can be sued for a crime that allegedly occurred in another country. The VDSs might not have kept that in the back of their mind. This is mostly an American thiing as well (again, for you zealots out there, not passing judgment - just observing something).

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there a witness that knows where Natalee Holloway is buried? According to a Dutch article at there is, “Nieuwe getuige kent graf Natalee”. It appears that witnesses have come forward and have discussed what they know with Chief Gerold Dompig. The article is translated below.

New witness knows where Natalee is buried

ORANJESTAD - The man cried on the telephone and said that he could not live further with what he knew. Five new witnesses have come forward in the matter of the disappearance Natalee Holloway on Aruba. The police investigation aims especially at the anonymous call from a man who has said that he knew that Natalee Holloway was buried and also approximately where. Chief Dompig has confirmed that. “We do not doubt the truth of this call, because it was clear that he was upset from a guilty conscience.” The man, who called from a foreign country but spoke in papiamento, cried to the telephone and told that he could not live further with what he knew.

Another witness has given a statement concerning three suspects which have been considered as the last with Natalee Holloway in the night of her disappearance. It concerns Joran Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers. Chief Dompig is certain that Holloway died during the trip with these three and afterwards was buried. He believes they were aided by others. As a result of the depositions the police force starts within two weeks with bloodhounds from the Netherlands and earlier not yet used ground radar equipment a search operation in the area where Holloway was last seen. The police force expects at the grave of Holloway to also find the tennis shoes of Joran. He has explained during interrogation that he left his shoes behind and walked home.

(This is a rough translation through on-line translator and others.)
(Hat Tip: Henk for the email (2/17/06 7:56pm) & Klaas (2/18/06 1:15am)

The rest of the translation to following regarding Joran and Paul Van der Sloot in the US.

4:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only reason why Beth Twitty sues Joran is money. And it's quite clear that this is the easiest way to get it.

And she has been on so many shows (i.e. Dr. Phil), that made her mediageil (horny for media publicity)!!

4:51 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

So, is there no law that regulates the amount of alcohol served to patrons in the bars of Aruba? A US bar would be fined for over-serving.

I guess we'll all have to wait and see what's up with this case, next.

But, no, I don't think the VDS should be in the US, not until this is resolved one way or another. It's poor judgement on their part. They're less "hunted" elsewhere.

4:58 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Oh right, I'm SURE she sued the VDS for their money.... omg. She's using the media, which is a smart move.

4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen Nonsense. Some of these people act like if they had a daughter/son missing they would go home and bake cookies, not be upset and just go about life as normal if their child wasn't missing.. That's scarey to me. Give her back her daughter. That's what she wants!

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are laws against it in the Netherlands - but Aruba, like many Carribean islands, is not that strictly regulated...then again, US has overregulation as well....look at what it does to drinking and driving in this country...

7:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course anon and would be ridicule to say that she would not want back her daughter..the search is still on in Aruba...all 'these people' are saying is that it is not sure yet whether Joran is guilty - he might or might not know where she is.

7:05 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

well the article of yet another new lead, hopefully may bring about some resolution. As for the VDS, the stories!! oh so many stories!! Contradictions everywhere. as for the Deepaks - how do they know that Sateesh was not the one on the computer and Deepak was out? Anyone can be using the computer, so how so they confirm this??

Anyway, I feel the loop is getting smaller and smaller for this case. It feels like it is close to a break. Hopefully, the truth will come forward and put the right people behind bars so NH family can find peace.

12:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This case is very close to being solved thanks to joran and his father. They are sinking there ownship. Frist by throwing DEEpak under the bus buy saying oh yes he was with joran. How many think Deepak will sit back and take the rap for Joran. I sure do not. Someone better step up while it counts or all go down for this. You can not hide you all are being watched 24-7. And the one's watching have more time then you do. Your life is over until you tell the truth. I am sure noone in Flordia wants joran there and I dont think he would be any safer there then Natalee was in Aruba. To many people feel he should pay for what he did to her. Daddy better keep him in Aruba .Time is running out joran I hope you liked jail. You remind me of Charlie Manson he also loves to see himself on TV maybe he could be your room mate? We can always send him to where you go so you two alikes can be together .?. Ask you mom maybe you are brothers?

1:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anita van der Sloot has given birth to Satan his name is joran.I am sure she knows what he did to natalee and she should be ashamed of herself for not helping Beth and Dave find the truth.

3:15 AM  
Anonymous Sparkey,from Boston said...

Joran,Do you know what Jack Ruby did in Dallas TX,

12:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring him down for some Southern hospitality, we'll go fishing in the swamp.

10:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Medleyrelay ~

I am assuming that you do not have children?

If Natalee was my daughter, I would stop at NOTHING to find her or find out what happened to her and who did it. I would use the media or lawsuits or any ohter avenue that presented itself to me. PERIOD!

As for the "Americans" yelling hang em without evidence.... well, I do fear that the evidence has been taken care of and will not be found. Therefor there will most likely never be a conviction.

HOWEVER, if you honestly believe that these boys have not already proven their own guilt......... well, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona that I would LOVE to sell you!

Wake up my friend!!!!!!

~Proud American!

1:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth has to sue and not for money all she wants is the truth and Natalee to be able to have peace. Jorans father may look to aruba as tho he has money but he doesnt have enough to cover this case up.For the ones who think Beth sued for money you are very very wrong its for JUSTICE,TRUTH. God Bless Beth,Dave,Natalee

12:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deepak and Sastise come to New york. Greta would like to interview you. Contact her at . Fox News. America is waiting.

11:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 4 guys storry is totally falling apart. Joran and Paulus are spinning it toward deepak and his brother. In Aruba that might work but in America it wont.Better come to the USA deepak to tell your side and be protected.Paulus is going to get you soon.He has to in order to save his son.

11:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm very concerned about medleyrelays comments throughout this blog. Can this person be for real? How can you be so supportive of someone who has lied and is guilty of some criminal activity with this girl? He's lied numerous times and has gotten away with it. He admits his lies and tells more lies for the first lie. I'm all for innocent until proven guilty, but, I believe JVS has convicted himself. Innocent people don't lie, only the guilty have to. What if this were your sister, your friend or you? As I suspect you are a female and the fact that you support a rapist is sickening. If you have such a strong belief in his innocence, then perhaps you should go out drinking with him!

7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How long were the Van Der Sloots in New York???

2:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran,Deepak,Sastise,Paulas. Must be kin to Charlie Manson, BKT. They do the same to women as these guys did.

5:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anita and Paulas are behind Joran giveing interviews . It will not work Americans (MOST) will Never beleive Joran is innocent.NEVER

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is no doubt in my mind the 3 boys are cold blooded killers and the elder Van der Sloot is an accomplice in this cover up. Aruba is so full of corruption no American should set foot on the island again until this tragedy is solved.

11:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your a fucken piece of shit you know that? you know you did something bad to her fucken asshole

11:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

VDS you are a criminal low-life loser! Your initials even sound like a STD!!You will get back 10fold whatever you did to poor Natalie! Your a loser and you will get what you deserve in the long run! When you hurt people the way you did Natalie and her family, you deserve whatever happens to you, and many many people hope your very small private parts rot and fall off!

8:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all you people who think he is innocent ~~ he is currently sitting in a prison in Peru for murdering another young girl in his hotel room and also for stabbing 3 other inmates in jail (how did he get a weapon ?)personally I feel he is a psychopath and a sociopath and I sincerely hope he get all that's coming to him.It seems it's not enough that he did damage to Natalee Holloways family,but he also did it again to Stephany Flores' family in Peru (he actually confessed to this one) ~ I hope he fries,and I still believe his parents knew what he did to Natalee Holloway and of course they are going to protect their son.If one of my brothers did something like this,my parents would be first in line to turn them in,before they could hurt anyone else.Don't parents teach morals to their children anymore?

6:56 PM  

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