Saturday, March 11, 2006

Fox News Special
Fox will be airing a one-hour special of the Joran Van Der Sloot interview with Greta Van Sustren this Sunday night at 9 p.m. Eastern. In other news, The Primetime ABC interview aired in Netherlands this week. Joran is scheduled to do interviews with Dutch Networks in upcoming days. Stay tuned for details...



Courtroom Showdown
John Q. Kelly, who just returned from Aruba, spoke to Greta about the latest in the civil suit case. Kelly is expected to file their opposition of the dismissal filed by Joe Tacopina within 30 days. Tacopina will then respond to that in 10 days paving way for the courtroom showdown set for May 17th 2006.


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834 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

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1:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Despite thousands of America’s best and brightest journalists doing months of in-depth investigation, we have nothing. This suit should be dismissed. There is nothing connecting these men to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

4:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran's ABC & FOX interviews simply will not fly. Here the output produced by the LVA program is PROBABLE FLASE (You might see a different value, HIGHLY SUSPECT, depending on your individual belief) This value is obviously not TRUTH. Here is why the deception. Joran was threatened by the Mafia to pay up his gambling debts or else he would be terminated. The Mafia entertains the high Dutch government officials for corruption purposes every summer with an all out orgies party at which a young beautiful virgin girl will be the feast for the god Bifron, the Voodoo god of Aruba. Joran promised the Mafia a virgin will be delivered as soon as Natalee told him that she was a virgin, and Natalee was a beautiful young white blonde, priceless. The Mafia was excited and elated and sent out the invitations to all the officials on the Aruba island and Holland to come for the orgies feast. Joran drugged Natalee and
kidnaped her to the rave party. He and Deepak thought Natalee would re-appear after at some crackhouse bar, woke up and flew home by herself and forgot what had happened to her. Joran had done these deals over 20 times and everytime the kidnaping was fine. Only now then this time Natalee was missing and assumed being murdered. So "Something bad
happened." said Joran at the first minute of his confession at the Aruban Police headquarter. The whole Aruban government was shaken, and the coverups begun. Joran is the prime suspect of Natalee's rape and murder. He is trying to protect all the corrupted Dutch government officials. He knows the names of all the perverts in that rave party at Koen's house near the Lighthouse.

5:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran looks like killer Hitler in his black raincoat jacket with his evil death squads accomplice. Joran is a very dangerous dude. Girls, avoid him as much as possible!

6:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to know why Dompig has not questioned Koen Gottenboos on the disappearance of Natalee?? Indications are that Koen's father pulled strings to get his son out of the line-up of suspects. And, that Koen used the family boat the night Natalee disappeared. WHAT IS GOING ON ARUBA??? WHAT ARE YOU ALL SCARED OF???? Koen, your name is now out and you are on the radar screen. Don't think for a NANO SECOND that you will get away unnoticed. Oh, and you can FORGET about attending school in the states. The FBI REALLY WANTS to talk to you. So, come on in, if you have the balls for it. Or, are you too going to HIDE LIKE JORAN begind your father's coat tails. Oh yeah, we're getting the picture big time. You guys are not going to get away with it....

1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Koen ran into Joran at the Internet cafe in Amsterdam. They joked about the Interviews and and NYC lawsuit. Joran told Koen that he really wants to make lots of money. He said Natalee had a shaved pussy and he licked it all over. Her golden virgin pussy was so good looking and sweet. Koen ashed him what about it. Joran said he has a asking price for three millions US dollars for his video clips. What a evil thing Joran had done!

3:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:06 you are really good at writing fiction. Why on earth are you wasting time here when you could be a script writer in Hollywood?

3:29 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

3:06 - take your vulgar blogs somewhere else. No one is interested in reading smut. If you have something of value to add then do so. Bear in mind that the Holloway family skims these blogs from time to time. Their hearts are torn out enough without you adding insult to injury. Knock it off.

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Koen Gottenboos on the disappearance of Natalee?? I am sure this guy is being watched 24/7. how about a picture for the rest of us to see what he looks like. I bet he wont come to the States.If he does I am sure he is on a watchlist like joran is and they will get him. Americans Never forget and Always get there man.

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget The Picture. I looked him up on the internet. I am sure the FBI knows all about this guy . Natalee will have Justice,

4:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Q Kelly I hope you check this Koen Gottenbos out really good he may be the missing link.

4:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

check this out it was interresting.http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/

4:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holloways and Twittys skim these blogs from time to time?????? One or the other them has this manned at all times.

5:41 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

5:41 - all the more reason for the vulgarity to end. The Holloways don't need that in their lives. Enough is enough already. We should all be focused on how to help find Natalee. Some of the commments are hurtful and beyond decency.

As for Koen, there are pictures of he, his brother and father on the internet. There are strong indications that Koen has been protected from hard questioning and as being held as a suspect by his father. While I understand Donpig knows about this guy (so what, you'd expect Dompig to be aware, especially considering father Alex's government ties), little has been done to bring him in for questioning. Also, he has remained very low profile throughout this case. Quite frankly, I don't think anyone who has any communication the evening Natalee disappeared should be "low profile", including Koen. I don't care who his daddy is...
There is a very very deep cover of what happened the night NH disappeared. These men know what happened. I sincerely hope they know that there will be NO REST for them until they come forward with the truth. Forget US schools boys, you will not make it through the first semester. In fact, you won't make it anywhere, unless that is your daddy's employ you at a family business. Good luck with that, cause no one SANE is going to do any kind of business with ANY of you.

7:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some if these insulting comments were directed at the Holloways. All of these comments seem more pointed at Beth Twitty. The news reporters always refered to Beth as Beth Holloway Twitty. When she divorced Dave, did she opt to keep the Holloway name?
I'm truly sorry that Natalee is missing. But the slander of the VDS's and Kalpoes and now the Gottonbos family has gone too far. There is not one shread of evidence that any one of these family members did anything at all to Natalee. Only wild speculation, and most of it was put out there by Beth. What has she accomplised by doing this? Seems as though most of her antics have backfired on her.
Beth really should let the authorities handle this case. If they need her input, I'm sure they'll ask for it.

If you put yourself in a position to be riduculed, riduclued you'll be. No sense in whinning about it, when you asked for it.

7:22 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Actually, the "authorities" screwed this case up from day one. If it were your kid, what would you do?? Sit on your ass and wait for what is obviously a incompetent investigative team to ASK you for input?? Uh-huh, sure you would. If you review the more notable missing person cases througout the last 50 years, you'll see that the most successful "finds" were a result of highly COOPERATIVE, highly COMPETENT, highly COLLABORATIVE work on the parts of the investigative team AND the loved ones of the missing. So, when people are so cruel as to suggest that BHT, sit quietly n a corner, and WAIT for an investigative team on a very small island that is OBVIOUSLY ILL-EQUIPPED to handle any case of this magnitude, you may as well be asking the Holloways to fly. They can't do that. YOU wouldn't be able to do it, given the same set of circumstances.

As for the VDS, Kalpoes, Gottenbos and all... what slander are you talking about??? They LIED, not once but THREE times. They INTENTIONALLY MISLED AND OBSTRUCTED AN INVESTIGATION, Now, you tell me WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT??? THREE TIMES???????

If you are a Joran supporter and you TRULY BELIEVE he's innocent, then give your hard earned dollars to the fund created to support him. And, you can be critical fo Beth and Dave's tactics if you like, but critical is one thing, totally vulgar and indecent is another. Perhaps the escalated vulgarity is die to heightened desperation on the Joran front. I can understand that, as these young men are becoming increasingly more difficult to believe the more they talk. I'm glas to hear that JOran is giving interviews in the Netherlands, cause EVERY TIME he opens his mouth, he puts another inch of his big foot in it. His Aruban representation DECLINED to accompany him to the states. What?? Why?? Why do you THINK his attorney refused?? You'd have to be a dim bulb not to get what's going on here. THese guys can walk around "free" but they are not really "free", and they never, ever, NEVER will be until they grow up and come forward with the truth, the whole truth and NOTHING BUT. As they mature, this is only gong to become much much more damaging to their lives, souls and loved ones. They are winning this game, time is truly on Natalee's side now.

8:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well said nonsense1... shows how desperate the are.

8:19 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

I would like to see Bo Dietl and Joe Tacopina have a moderated discussion on the IMUS show, by Don Imus. It would be interesting to hear Bo's viewpionts toward Joe and his represntation of Joran, particularly with the depth of knowledge Bo has on the case.

8:42 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Bernie, you need to line this up for Imus. Don would be great at moderating a dialog between Bo and JOe on the NH case. He's one of the best interviewers in broadcast and doesn't take BS from ANYBODY, except maybe Diedre.

8:47 PM  
Anonymous Freebird said...

Natalee chose a quote from the Song FeeBird (Lynyrd Skynyrd) as her entry in the 2005 Mountain Brook High School yearbook. It reads:

##############################
"If I leave here tomorrow
Would you still remember me?
For I must be travelling on, now, 'Cause there's too many places I've got to see."
##############################

(Here another Part from this song she seemingly liked:
"Cause I’m as free as a bird now,
And this bird you’ll never change.
And this bird you can not change.
Lord knows, I can’t change.
Lord help me, I can’t change.")

Is this a possible sign for her desire to break free? Is this not a possible indiction for a vanish into thin air, like a bird?

8:50 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

Bo has knowledge of this case? Ya right - he is just another of the lowlifes that have attached themselves to Beth and company and display reprehensible behavior - Joe T should never waste his time with any of this cast of characters - and boy are there a lot of them!!

9:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and your point is???? oh wait you don't have one..If you got info Natalee is alive take it the cops..maybe when they rescue her on that imaginary island of yours, they can pick up Elvis too.. Who the hell don't feel like singing freebird after going to school for 13 years and graduating Natalee's family loved her very much and she loved them. Nothing you can say will change that.

9:03 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

medley - helllooo Bo makes a great living as CEO of a very, very sharp PI firm. You should be so competent in ANYTHING...

Joe T has been on the Imus show, NUMEROUS times. Maybe you should do a little research before you write a blog. It may help people pay a little more attention to your info.

As for "free bird" --- I don't think I'd read too much into that.

9:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well if VDS's and Kalpoes and now the Gottonbos family are so innocent why havent they taken a polly with the FBI maybe because they arent? As far as Koen's father being apart of goverment he still isnt protected from being charged with murder if he is involded. Maybe the United States Goverment will step in soon if this is true.That way the AG can get involded also. There is no way in HELL you can cover this up. I dont care who you are. These kids will never have a Normal life they will be SUSPECTS the rest of there lifes. They are walking dead men and I do not mean someone will kill them. I mean there fathers have killed there furtures forver by trying to cover it up. The SINS OF THE FATHERS LAY ON THE SOULS OF THE SONS.THE FATHERS HAVE DOOMED THE SONS

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Joran really loves his father Paulus, he should come forward and admit that he killed Natalee and tells where her body was buried. The case will be closed.

3:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is also blackmailing Koen of him and Dennis Jacob on the party boats drug sales. Koen's dad Alex is very afraid of Joran's threat. He moves his whole family out to Holland for the sanctury. This Joran thing is snowballing and anyone gets into its way will be killed. Dompig is no exeception. Aruba is a Mafia run island. The
disappearance of Natalee has gotten the nerve of the Mafia who had nothing to do with it. The Mafia already set up a actions consul to terminate the perverts which include Joran, Deepak, Satish and Paulus. Tomorrow, you might not see them anymore, and there will be "No Bodies, Case Closed".

4:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Tocopina involved with Mafia clients in the past and is the reason why he probono his services to Joran.

5:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's all about big money. Joran's celebrity ratings are their highest ever sampled by the blogsphere advertising agencies in excess of over two billions dollars in value if when Joran is exonerated in court. The big monies are now at play in the New York trial. The investers want a real court battle in CTV, not any of those dismisals or default judgements. They want Joran to win the civil suit case. Then they can promote Joran to be a super media star due to his unusaul ability to sell his own agenda in the MSM. The mighty dollar is working for Joran. His legal defense fund now has collected over two millions dollars in a week as confirmed by the Aruba Central Bank.

5:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The New York tourists business increases 4% since a week ago, many tourists will stay til Friday to hear the arguments on the venue of the JVDS lawsuit. This one is a very emotional issue which touches every American, pro or con. But good for the NYC economy and Hollywood movies makers, many New Yorkers want and love the lawsuit drama, just make their days to go by enjoying all incoming attentions from the media. New York has been a Big Godd Apple
everybody has a bite into it.

9:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry to hear about tim miller(beths drinking budy) getting shot down by the ale.

10:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth does not drink you scumbag creeps. All you trashy toliet scum can do is take up for the crimnals and put down the victims. YOU BETH BASHERS are all white trash, Dutch TRASH. Whatever ! YOU are trash.
So kiss where I can't.

10:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth doesn't drink? Didn't she meet Jug in a bar, and wasn't she married to Dave at the time. I do know that Jug announced that he and Beth dated ( had an affair) for 5 years before they were married.

Why would you go to bar if not to drink? Oh, I get Beth was the designated driver, is that it?

11:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth's own mother told the world that Beth met Jug in a bar and that Beth told her friends "I want that man".

11:12 AM  
Blogger nutcracka said...

Anonymous said...
We have a new rule here in Aruba, before an American can step foot on our soil each girl must sign a waiver that she will be responsible for her own actions and not claim"victim" when she blows the next local group of men.
Try educating your women or else put the gps tracking devices on them and quit blaming everyone else for your countries mistakes.

Justice for Aruba.
7:46 PM

Your jealousy and bashing of America is very juvenile..as an American, I find comments like this quite comical ...

You sound as if YOU are prejudice and for those assholes that believe the "Hitlers sister" comment, who sounds more like Hitler??? HATE AMERICA.. HATE AMERICA.. this is not about ARUBA against AMERICA .How small minded and inbred are you clowns that could hate a whole country because a family wants to find their child.. ??just goes to show your mentailty level and your value of a human beings life....Im trying to keep this PG rated, but its hard ..especially dealing with uneducated ,self centered hateful people who would talk shit about a missing girl ...

Natalee did not deserve any of this , neither does her family

So, FUCK ARUBA and FUCK YOU

11:33 AM  
Blogger nutcracka said...

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11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee also made the "Hilter's Sister" to one of her MB friends. It is documented.

11:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

beth dont drink is like saying her daughter never gave belly shots or never jumped in a car with 3 strangers.
like mother like daughter

"call me little hoot, we can work it out"
"we never thought "it" would come to this.
"What has she done now"

The list goes on and on......

talk about a cover up.

11:48 AM  
Blogger nutcracka said...

sorry to hear about tim miller(beths drinking budy) getting shot down by the ale.

10:15 AM


Anonymous said...
Beth's own mother told the world that Beth met Jug in a bar and that Beth told her friends "I want that man".

11:12 AM

Anonymous said...
beth dont drink is like saying her daughter never gave belly shots or never jumped in a car with 3 strangers.
like mother like daughter



why dont you throw yourself under a bus..hopefully Beth is drving it DRUNK

11:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nutcracker, chill out! Go take a stroll at the Inter Harbor, go feed the ducks, do anything today but sit in front of your keyboard.

11:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad Bush doesnt suspect WMD in Aruba

11:55 AM  
Blogger nutcracka said...

Anonymous said...
nutcracker, chill out! Go take a stroll at the Inter Harbor, go feed the ducks, do anything today but sit in front of your keyboard.

11:54 AM


that would be the INNER Harbor...trust me ,I am calm...my sarcasm runs second nature to people like you...

You wont be blessed with my presense much longer , not that I wouldnt LOVE to stay on here and annoy you...

But dont forget one thing, Natalee disappeared in ARUBA ..someone in I dont think Beth's drinking or Anita needing to get her hooves sanded has anything to do with anything...Would it pacify you a little if she drank Heineken?

12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran went to see the doctors over the weekend, his hot blotches on his neck and lover cheek never goes away. Koen noticed that and told him need to take care of it as soon as possible. Koen said it seems to be herbies or some kind
of STD. Koen would not let Joran borrow his cellphone, being afraid about the skin contact. He told Joran go to visit his private physician, he will pay the medical bills. Next time poeple need to look for his red markings under
his nose, if they are there, we have a problem, Greta.

12:15 PM  
Blogger medleyrelay said...

This is so totally hateful - this post about blotches and herPies and it is all just a bunch of hate and lies - which of course you people are full of!

There are many reasons why one Joran's age would have this skin problem - the most notable acne - which he apparently suffers from - from the pictures all summer. Now, he must be taking some strong skin products which cause your skin to be very dry and also cause the blotchiness that we saw on tv.

So take your crap and stick it!!!

12:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would only pacify us if Beth would admit that she, Natalee and all the rest of the MB gang are not PERFECT . Beth would have us all believe that no one in MB especially Natalee, her classmates and of course Beth herself are the least bit sinful. Even sister-in-law Linda that these were all good girls , they are A students. Joran, on the otherhand, is a good liar because he is an A student. HUH??? So wouldn't this make the MB gang good liars too? Since it is a requirement that you must be an honor in order to lie and have the world believe you?
Goose, Gander and Sauce....

12:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aruba has a new policy of not letting any woman younger than 22 to go ashore, thus there is not enough young ladies to join the shopping trip in downtown Aruba. The cruise ships decide to skip Aruba altogeter and go to the new
shopping malls in Puerto Rico. Aruba has just lost over 25% of the cruise ships tourism in last two weeks.

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well if VDS's and Kalpoes and now the Gottonbos family are so innocent why havent they taken a polly with the FBI maybe because they arent? As far as Koen's father being apart of goverment he still isnt protected from being charged with murder if he is involded. Maybe the United States Goverment will step in soon if this is true.That way the AG can get involded also. There is no way in HELL you can cover this up. I dont care who you are. These kids will never have a Normal life they will be SUSPECTS the rest of there lifes. They are walking dead men and I do not mean someone will kill them. I mean there fathers have killed there furtures forver by trying to cover it up. The SINS OF THE FATHERS LAY ON THE SOULS OF THE SONS.THE FATHERS HAVE DOOMED THE SONS . Aruba has all the answers. To the sick asses who smear Beth You need to Stop the Hate. Americans will never forget. You are cutting off the hand that feeds you by bashing Americans.Koen come forward before you get hung out to dry.they all will be passing the blame unto you soon now that your name is out you are being watched 24/7. By everyone not just the FBI.

1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By Bashing Beth and Joran you all lose the point of what is going on. All we want is Natalee Back in the USA. And Justice who cares about skin problems you are doing what they want by bashing joran they want the small talk we want the killers. Big Differance Americans Stick to what we want JUSTICE and do not play the name calling game these guys want you to. JUSTICE FOR NATALEE IS WHAT AMERICANS WANT NOW AND AMERICANS WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO NATALEE.

1:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JUSTICE NOW FOR NATALEE. NO MORE GAMES.

1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He visited the Red Light District few times, witnessed by NE. Their new front page article in the next new March distribution will address that issue. Something must look more serious that Herpies or STD, it seems to be blood
poisoning from alcohol and drug and sexual abuses. The oral sex is not safe anymore, if you don't wear condoms in your mouth, you put yourself at high risk. The mucus from the posititues can transmit new strain of HIV instantly to the unprotected penis. Raw blow jobs are highly discouraged in Amsterdam, you have to wear condoms at all time to
protect yourself. Joran is a safe sex consumer, he always says he will never have sex without condoms. He doesn't have that problem other than some genetic blood poisoning inherited from his daddy Paulus. He also needs to find out his family tree of death certificates to find out if he got some bad genes.

1:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee's family wouldn't spend their days thinking and talking about you..that would give you importance..something you don't have in life. goose, goosed sauced in your green envious hearts.

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!!! JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

1:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who in hell do you think is envious of the Twitty's or the Holloways?
Where these people IMPORTANT or POWERFUL before Natalee disappeared?
No one spends their entire day thinking about the Twittys or the Holloways, VDSloots, Kalpoes, Aruba or Natalee for that matter.
Yes everyone including the VDSloots, Kalpoes, all of Aruba and the USA want justice for Natalee. That is assuming that she is dead or being held against her will somewhere. If she opted to flee then I think she should be held responsible for all this nonesense.

1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See, there is another dark secret of the Sloots family, Joran is illegitimate and he was not born of Anita. His biological mother was a certified sex worker in Holland killed some years ago in a hotel robbery. His father never
wants to admit Joran has some kind of genetic diseases, because the medical gentic DNA mapping will validate Joran is only the half-son in their family. Joran will need bone marrow transplant, the cure genes have traced to his
biological mother side of the displaced family. Joran will need the bone marrow from his half-sibblings from his real mother side. If the operations is not done soon, Joran will die within a year, as the medical statistics have shown.

1:52 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Man, you guys are getting WAY off base here. This blog is not about anythong other than Natalee Holloway's disappearance. If you simply want a place to go vent BS, then go to scared monkeys or on JOoran's site on Zorpia or something.

As for Beth's drinking, yes or no - WHO CARES??????? Beth is not the one who is suspect of taking another human being from a foreign country and leaving them on a beach, abusing them or any other thing. Get a grip will ya'.

Joran and his family and "friends", former friends or whatever relationship they have now are suspect of a crime. It's really that simple. Yes, they ARE SUSPECT, not maybe, they ARE. So, it stands to reason that on a blog about the missing alleged victim, that people would be coming forward with support or suggestions to HELP. Beth and Dave have worked diligently to keep Natalee's case front and center in the media. If that upsets some of you, oh well. If it were your daughter, son, husband, wife missing ina foreign county WHAT WOULD YOU DO??? Sit on your ass and wait for some corrupt government, leading a totally botched investigation to tell you something??? Are you kidding??? You are kidding yourselves if you think the last three persons to see this young woman alive know nothing. IF they did know nothing, they would have told the truth the first time around. They obstructed an investigation by lying- in the US they'd be in jail for that alone. If they were innocent, the truth fromthe start would have totally exhonorated them....what they opt'ed to do can only mean one thing, and one thing only. So, if you want to stand by your "men" then go do it. POst blogs on JOran's site. But, give us all a break with your endless, ridiculously stupid comments and lets' get back to the business of finding out what happened to Natalee.

So, who is this Koen person, anyway. Are there any phone records linking him or his Dad to Joran, his firends or family the night or day after NH disappeared??

2:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nononesene, you are not going to find out what happened to Natalee on this blog. Maybe you should pack your bags and head to Aruba and the Netherlands, that is being that you are at least 22 years old.
Good luck with your investigation !

3:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YES STOP THE ENDLESS BASHING ON BOTH SIDES AND GET BACK TO WHY YOU ARE HERE. TO FIND THE TRUTH OF WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALEE AND BRING JUSTICE FOR HER AND HER FAMILY. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.THESE GUYS HAVE ALL THE ANSEWERS AND ARUBA KNOWS IT. ITS TIME FOR CLOSURE AND JUSTICE.KOEN WAS WITH DEEPAK, SASTICE JORAN AND HAS A BOAT. I WOULD LOVE THE FBI TO CHECK OUT KOEN"S COMPUTER AND PHONE RECRDS TP SEE IF THE DOTS CONNECT.

3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ano 3:27 why you book yourself a flight and go with nononesense to Aruba and The Netherlands. You are not going find the truth about what Natalee on this blog. No one that comes here is going to confess. TA,TA ! Enjoy your hunting trip. Maybe we will all get see you and nononesense on Fox. The ratings will be through the roof!

3:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you are wrong, I think bits and pieces of truth are on the blogs and the people who know how to out it all together will.Do not under estimate the FBI. Justice for Natalee is all they want and all we want .Thousands are working on this case all kinds of law enforsments not just the FBI and they will close this case soon.And like some say the mafia might be watching to so they dont have a chance to get away they know what happened and natalee will have JUSTICE

3:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't doubt that FBI is looking at this blog...but the Mafia is like....yea, right. Ha! Ha!
This blog reads like a good mystery, science fiction,a funny joke and pure B.S.
Have fun digging in the sand.

3:55 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

I have been reading this comments and something just keeps jumping out at me. I see several comments about Natalee being a virgin. Not that I think her virginity is really something that matters, but why would anyone assume she is a virgin?

I don't think someone all pure as a Christmas snow would be giving a strange guy she just met body shots.

I also think that everyone is looking in the wrong direction. I find it hard to believe that a 17 year old kid can trick so many authorities. If he was responsible I think someone would have found a way to nail him by now. Everyone involved can't possibly be stupid.

4:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen to that 4:08 !

A perfect girl that is pure as the driven snow would not have been in a bar on a Sunday night, she would have been in church somewhere. She'd have gone back to her hotel and maybe hung out with friends around the pool, then made sure she was ready to return to her wonderful Mountain Brook home.
From all indications, it didn't look as though Natalee was planning on returning to the States. I think she'd have left that bar with anyone who had a car. It just happened to be JVDS and the 2K's. I do feel as though they left her somewhere alive, be it the beach or someplace else.

4:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JVDS and the 2K's Koen will all pay for what they have done. If they had left Natalee alive she would be home today. They all will pay. As far as the mafia I wish they would clean house with these guys. Bad for Business if they dont. I dont really think the mafia would have anything to do with these lose cannons.to many problems for them.

5:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop advertising for 18 year olds to come to the safe happy island and Carlos and Charlies. Doing bodyshots isn't what got Natalee in trouble. It's the 3 who showed up almost closing time to pick up a girl he said had been drinking all day and buying her the strongest drink in the house, away from her friends in another part of the bar and leaving with her alive, never to be seen again. Who would send anyone there.. They only want your money.. Natalee would be alive and in college today if those 3 had not went to CnC.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Away from her friends....there are photos showing her dancing on the bar and her friends are watching!

5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What in the world has the Mafia got to do with 3 kids who never even had so much as a parking ticket. Good Grief!
Some of you speak about these kids as though they were big time criminals! Crap...give me a break!

5:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You give us a break.

5:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran and his buddies have lived there lifes as small time criminals! How many kids gamble unlimited and drink daily and make sex tapes? How many fathers and mother's let there son run the house and control the family?jorans parents lost control of him long ago.

6:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what about Natalee danceing on the bar. It was spring break . Hell some girls dance naked it doesnt get them killed.She should have been able to drink ,dance do what ever the hell kids do and still been allowed to come home. She wasnt thats the Problem here. They know what happened they will pay for what they did. All of them

6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, Deepak, Sastise Koen Paulus, All #1 SUSPECTS. All Know What Happened.

6:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goodie Two Shoes Girls Do Not get Drunk and Dance on Bars, naked or otherwise.

6:26 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

4:08 It took quite some time to bring down Scott Peterson, BTK, Dahmer, Bundy and even Jack the Ripper... and these guys were serial killers who left bodies and eveidence behind on a regular basis!! So, this one guy could indeed be successful in holding off the authorities, as they have no body.

As for NH virginity and purity... this is exactly the same mentality as rapists cop toward their vicitims, i.e. "they asked for it" - they wore revealing clothing, they moved in suggestive ways, they "led" the perp on. Yeah, right, ok, so even if Natalee had 400 belly shots that night from 400 different guys, it doesn't mean she desrved to be left on a beach drugged, drunk or otherwise, nor does it justify Joran's decisions in anyway. The bottom line here is that HE LIED. HE OBSTRUCTED AN INVESTIGATION THAT COULD HAVE EXHONORATED HIM, IF HE IS INNOCENT. I can think of only one reason why anyone would intentionally mislead and lie about their whereabouts in a missing person case.

As for you 3:20, I would gladly book a flight to Aruba and help, but since the ALE refuses help in the way of equipment and professional manpower, I highly doubt they'd allow me to do anything. IF Aruba demonstrated more support in this case, I think you'd see Americans on the island picketing the tourism trade. However, I don't think people want to find themselves in an Arban jail.

An interview with Joran?? I'd welcome it, although in exchange for a "non-edited" interview, I would want free reign to ask any question I desired. None of this pre-determined, pre-screened crap that steers the interview.

You know, 3:20 you are like the person who intentionally sits in the opponent's bleachers at a sport event and cries foul when someone tells them to shove off. If you don't want to support Natalee, then why don't you go to Joran's site on Zorpia and tell him how much money you're going to donate to his fund?? IF you believe in the guy, then why arean't on his sites supporting him??

I think these blogs enable the persons who know what happened to Natalee to know that they can provide information anonymously with no fear of repercussion. If you are one of the people who can help Natalee's family find her, then go to an internet cafe and send a blog. NO ONE can trace your communication to your person. YOu can do something wonderful for a family torn apart with worry and fear. You can do something even more wonderful for yourself, your conscience and your country.

6:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a bunch of out of it people. Don't any of you watch spring break on MTV? Do the 100,000 girls in the shot and wet t-short contests deserve to die? or be left drunk and deserted on a beach?
There'd be alot of murders if that's any kind of justification for what Joran and his friends allegedly did to Natalee.

6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one ever said Natalee was a goodie two shoes. Natalee was a normal 18 year old girl. Who acted like a 18 year old girl.She didnt deserve to be killed . She will have Justice. Joran, Koen, Deepak,Sastice and the thers will pay for what they have done.

7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most men who kill women blame the women. She was a slut,she dressed like She wanted it. She begged for it.She was a drunk. They say all the same things that Deepak and Joran have said. So guess who killed her? Men who kill blame the women she made them kill her .Sick

7:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey up there at 6:41 this blog is the Joran Van Der Sloot Blog. His supporters are suppose to be here for him. It is apparent that you are either a Holloway or Twitty family member and you should "Shove Off" to the Natalee Blog!

7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do some of insist that Natalee was murdered? How do you know that for sure? Why do you keep on repeating it here? Why do keep on yelling at everyone that these guys are still suspect...it is not like the whole damn doesn't know that already. BUT just suspect...NOT PROVEN TO BE GUILTY OF ANYTHING AS OF TODAY!
You don't want anyone saying anything bad about Beth or Natalee, but you sure as hell say all kinds of mean and hateful things about the suspects and their families. Doesn't one good turn deserve another?

7:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want all Americans to stick to why we are all in voled in Natalee case .Its to get JUSTICE for her. Do not lower yourselfs no matter how many times these evil guys say rotton things about Natalee,BETH,USA, Dont say alful things about Joran that will not Help. They will only make us look like we are lowlifes like them. We will get this guy and his friends and his father and other fathers who may be involded like Koen's. This site is Jorans we all want him to know.This will never go away until NATALEE is home and JUSTICE is done. They are watching him 24/7 and will get his ass soon.(For Murder)because even the Aruba Police now say she is dead.Joran and his buddys took her they are the ones last seen with her.

7:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think these blogs enable the persons who know what happened to Natalee to know that they can provide information anonymously with no fear of repercussion. If you are one of the people who can help Natalee's family find her, then go to an internet cafe and send a blog. NO ONE can trace your communication to your person. YOu can do something wonderful for a family torn apart with worry and fear. You can do something even more wonderful for yourself, your conscience and your country.

8:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Hey up there at 6:41 this blog is the Joran Van Der Sloot Blog. His supporters are suppose to be here for him. It is apparent that you are either a Holloway or Twitty family member and you should "Shove Off" to the Natalee Blog!

7:23 PM

Since when is this a Blog for Joran, Just because it has the name doesnt mean squat..This is about the Joran/ Natalee Case as a whole.. You are more then welcome to open a Joran For King Site If you like, But every blog I have found on this case carries both suppoters to each his own , everyone has there own beliefs and are entitled to there own opinion

8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran's ABC & FOX interviews simply will not fly. Here the output produced by the LVA program is PROBABLE FLASE (You might see a different value, HIGHLY SUSPECT, depending on your individual belief) This value is obviously not TRUTH. Here is why the deception. Joran was threatened by the Mafia to pay up his gambling debts or else he would be terminated. The Mafia entertains the high Dutch government officials for corruption purposes every summer with an all out orgies party at which a young beautiful virgin girl will be the feast for the god Bifron, the Voodoo god of Aruba. Joran promised the Mafia a virgin will be delivered as soon as Natalee told him that she was a virgin, and Natalee was a beautiful young white blonde, priceless. The Mafia was excited and elated and sent out the invitations to all the officials on the Aruba island and Holland to come for the orgies feast. Joran drugged Natalee and
kidnaped her to the rave party. He and Deepak thought Natalee would re-appear after at some crackhouse bar, woke up and flew home by herself and forgot what had happened to her. Joran had done these deals over 20 times and everytime the kidnaping was fine. Only now then this time Natalee was missing and assumed being murdered. So "Something bad
happened." said Joran at the first minute of his confession at the Aruban Police headquarter. The whole Aruban government was shaken, and the coverups begun. Joran is the prime suspect of Natalee's rape and murder. He is trying to protect all the corrupted Dutch government officials. He knows the names of all the perverts in that rave party at Koen's house near the Lighthouse.

5:15 AM

Is this what happened Joran?

8:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They lack attention in life and they figured out how to get it.. it works don't it?..everyone is paying attention to them.. even negative attention is better than none?

8:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On 8-4 BETH said she met an AMERICAN 18 year old blonde woman in ARUBA who had contact with Principal Suspect J. SLOOT in April 2005. (the woman is from NJ, and was with her mother when she and BETH first met) The young woman told BETH that while at “Carlos ‘n Charlie's" she had observed Principal Suspect J. SLOOT’s “predatory habits.” The woman was with 2 of her friends at “Carlos ‘n Charlie's" when Principal Suspect J. SLOOT approached her and her friends repeatedly and relentlessly inside, and he kept trying to impress them. He pointed out Current Suspect D. KALPOE and Current Suspect S. KALPOE sitting in the same seats as shown in the infamous photo of the 3 and told the woman that they were his gambling friends. Another short friend of his came up and was telling the women how rich he was and what a great athlete. He appeared to have an open tab at the bar. When “Carlos ‘n Charlie's" closed (at 12 AM that night because there was a large fight the previous night), Principal Suspect J. SLOOT followed the women and was trying very hard to go with him and continue partying at another bar. The women declined his advances.

8:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, Beth said, that is the key phrase here. Beth said. Beth said.

8:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL.....like you or Joran have more credibility than Beth.

8:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah hello - this is not the Joran VDS blog. Joran is a suspect in a crime against a woman. Beth is not suspect of anything. Natalee can't speak for herself. No one has said anything "terrible" about jOrna other than the truth as we know it and that is he is a LIAR who obstructed justice. Someone out there knows what happened to Natalee, and yes we do believe "something bad happened" as in Joran's own words. So, do't sit there and lecture me on what is happening and what isn't. This man, his family and friends are in this up to their necks and are sinking fast.

Hopefully the person(s) who know what happened to Natalee will come to the blog or get to a phone and give us some specific informaton as to where we can find Natalee. We need places dates times and persons. Specific as you can be to the informatin you have to offer. Please, a family, many families are praying for you and justice for this woman.

9:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JORAN THE OTHER GIRLS WILL SEE YOU IN COURT THIS MAY.

9:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What court? That suit will thrown out in the trash.

9:32 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

When did I say that Natalee "deserved to die"? First of all we don't know that she is dead. Secondly, what I said, if you actually bothered to read it rather than go off on a rant, I said I don't know why people were going on about her being a virgin. I doubt very seriously she was a virgin. She was acting like a loose wild woman. And a stupid person to go off with 3 guys and leave her friends behind. That is just common sense.

She didn't "deserve to die", but she is accountable for her own actions. Nobody forced her into the car at gun point. Nobody forced her to get stupid drunk.

10:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No it wont be thrown out. Even if it was to be there are courts that will take it. Maybe our Federal Supreme Court. Natalee has the right to JUSTICE and John Q Kelly is a international lawyer so maybe even Holland will hear the case.You never know. One thing we all know in the USA is no country can block Justice,

10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noone knows the circumstances of her getting in the car..just Joran's word..and thats a big fat negative zero..what he says.

10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

doxie, you are one stupid person. noone is perfect that doesnt mean anyone has the right to kill anyone.as far as weather natalee was a vergin or not why do you worry about shit like that maybe she was maybe she wasnt it doesnt make jack shit to why natalee isnt alive and at home with her family. Stop trying to protect the sum bags it isnt working it only makes us want them to be taken care of sooner.. You are a sick ass even worring or mentioning that. all you are trying to say is she was a slut not a virgin and deserved to die. you are wrong and should ask for forgivness. All of you evil animals will get what you deserve.

10:51 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

I am a stupid person? Evidently you can't read or spell. As to (quote)"weather natalee was a vergin or not" was exactly my point. I was a bit dumbfounded to see so many people making comments about her being a virgin.

BTW, not being a virgin is not the same thing as being a slut. Perhaps you will learn the difference when you grow up.

10:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just watched joran agin giveing Greta the interview. This kid is makeing it up as he goes and will pay for what he has done. Deepaks lawyer even said JORAN was a lier . Deepak, Sastise Joran,Koen and daddys will all go down. Cant wait to see the Prince of Darkness land on his Ass.Maybe he can get a cell next to SCott Peterson, Or BTK. Your future is dead Joran and you will pay for any part of Natalee's disappearance,

10:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LIES,LIES,LIES, THATS ALL THAT YOU JORAN KNOW HOW TO DO, WHAT TYPE OF PARENTS RAISED YOU?THE FRIST THING A GOOD PARENT TEACHES A CHILD IS TO NEVER LIE.DO THEY LOVE YOU TO MUCH? BEING A PARENT IS THE HARDEST JOB ANYONE CAN DO AND YOU CAN NOT BE A FRIEND OR A BUDDY YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS BE A PARENT. I THINK YOUR PARENTS MISSED THE BOAT YOUR FATHER IS MOST TO BLAME FOR WHERE YOU ARE TODAY. AND YOUR MOTHER SHOULD HAVE STEPPED IN AND SAID TO YOUR DAD HEY HE IS OUT OF CONTROL AND YOU ARE DOING NOTHING BUT LETTING JORAN DO WHAT EVER HE DAM WELL PLEASES. YOUR DAD IS WHY THIS HAPPENED HE WAS A BUDDY INSTEAD OF A FATHER AND DIDNT TEACH YOU HOW TO BE A REAL MAN. YOUR YOUNGER BROTHER I HOPE WILL NOT TURN OUT LIKE YOU.

11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alex Gottenbos's Lets hear from you and your son. Call the FBI if you are not involded.

11:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: "Deepaks lawyer even said JORAN was a lier."

Well, Joran told the police that he left Nat on the beach and when Deepak came to pick him up Deepak went back to where he left Nat on the beach. When the police asked what he think Deepak did to Nat he stated the he thinks Deepak raped and killed her.

Of course, now he ways that's not what really happened. That is, he admits this is a lie.

11:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YES TRUE, BUT JORAN IS NOW SAYING IT WAS SASTISE WHO PICKED HIM UP AND LEAVEING PEOPLE TO BELEIVE MAYBE IT WAS SASTISE ALONG WITH DEEPAK WHO MAY HAVE KILLED NATALEE.

11:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't wish those 3 on the bride of frankenstein.. what a nightmare for a girl to run into.

11:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran's ABC & FOX interviews simply will not fly. Here the output produced by the LVA program is PROBABLE FLASE (You might see a different value, HIGHLY SUSPECT, depending on your individual belief) This value is obviously not TRUTH. Here is why the deception. Joran was threatened by the Mafia to pay up his gambling debts or else he would be terminated. The Mafia entertains the high Dutch government officials for corruption purposes every summer with an all out orgies party at which a young beautiful virgin girl will be the feast for the god Bifron, the Voodoo god of Aruba. Joran promised the Mafia a virgin will be delivered as soon as Natalee told him that she was a virgin, and Natalee was a beautiful young white blonde, priceless. The Mafia was excited and elated and sent out the invitations to all the officials on the Aruba island and Holland to come for the orgies feast. Joran drugged Natalee and
kidnaped her to the rave party. He and Deepak thought Natalee would re-appear after at some crackhouse bar, woke up and flew home by herself and forgot what had happened to her. Joran had done these deals over 20 times and everytime the kidnaping was fine. Only now then this time Natalee was missing and assumed being murdered. So "Something bad
happened." said Joran at the first minute of his confession at the Aruban Police headquarter. The whole Aruban government was shaken, and the coverups begun. Joran is the prime suspect of Natalee's rape and murder. He is trying to protect all the corrupted Dutch government officials. He knows the names of all the perverts in that rave party at Koen's house near the Lighthouse.

12:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, You can never hide. You carry in your heart and in your mind what happened to Natalee. You can't run from yourself. You will never have a future, The Guilt will never leave you. Repent and asked for forgiveness.Then and only then will you have peace.

2:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jorans A Current affair interview and Fox Interview

Reporter: What about the two brothers. Are they friends of yours?

Joran van der Sloot: Deepak and Satish, they were probably two of my best friends. Right now, at this moment, I am not even talking to them anymore. We are not friends anymore, because all of this happened. And…

Reporter: Why is that?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, because, obviously, all of us lied. We agreed to lie. I was the first one that changed my story. I don’t think they liked that, so they changed their story. And it, eventually everything went towards the truth. But, obviously, bad things were said about each other. And, it just hurts me that our friendship had to break up because of that.

A Current affair
———————————VAN SUSTEREN: How old is Deepak? How much older is he than you are?

VAN DER SLOOT: Deepak’s 21.

VAN SUSTEREN: How do you know him?

VAN DER SLOOT: I met him a long time ago through a friend of mine. And now - and since then, we’ve been friends - never best friends or anything like that, but you know, we’ve - we hung out together and sometimes we went out together and stuff like that.

VAN SUSTEREN: What’s a long time ago to you, in terms of - you’re only 17, at this point.

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I know that.

VAN SUSTEREN: So what’s a long time ago?

VAN DER SLOOT: From that point, that day, I think three months earlier, two months earlier I’d met him.

VAN SUSTEREN: So he was a friend of three months.

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, three or four months…

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you know Satish at that point?

VAN DER SLOOT: No. I met - I met Deepak first, and then I met Satish.

VAN SUSTEREN: But you knew Satish before that
—————————————–

First they were Best friends, Now he only knew them a few months they were friends but no best friends

3:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The insomia is haunting Joran. He cannot get any sleep at night. He asks god Bifron for peace. Bifrom instructed Joran to smear some black tar on his head and ears and crawl through the hole dug up by the construction crew outside his apartment, then he would have relief. He done that and he felt very lonely. Now it becomes too cloudy for his mind, he has lost contacts from all his friends. He starts hearing all the voices inside his head blaming him for raping and murdering Natalee. Joran cannot stand the accusations and he cut his right wrist three times. The blood zooing out down his arm, he just blames himself for his foolish actions. However, he knows he has the sex video taken at the gangrape party and the video has the faces of everybody and names in it, and the ALE knows that, and that is the only way he feels so safe in Holland. Nobody can arrest him, if they do, his friends will release
the sex video to the world and destroy the Aruban government, and they know that. Joran is a very powerful and clever person, and he is not to be reckoned with, you know.

3:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do those who accuse the Aruban authorities og bungling up this investigation realise half of the year's budget set for the police was spent on Natalee? The enormous extent to which the Aruban authorities have gone in order to find a trace of Natalee is well documented.

3:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Walks like a slut, talks like a slut, must be a slut.

7:24 AM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Aruba had 5 murders in 2005 that they cannot or will not provide a breakdown. They also have an island population of about 72.000 residents, so it stands to reason that the budget has been used on Natalee. For perspective the population of Birmingham Alabama is approx. 240,000. Also, note that the Aruban government has been offered assistance numerous times and refused that assistance. So, to your point, why would they do THAT? Why would they refuse assistance when offered? Naturally, a very small police force on a tourist island is not going to be equipped in personnel, knowledge or equipment for a case of this magnitude. Yet when offered assistance, they refuse. So, this leaves a negative impression with the public who is interested in finding Natalee. Just as obvious is lack of professionalism of a police force who failed miserably in the onset of the case - at the most crucial time to collect evidence. And, yes, the metropolitan police forces in the US and probably any other major country, are much better equipped to handle violent crimes, than Aruba, yet Aruba refuses, opting to WAIT for assistance from the Netherlands. And you wonder why the public thinks there is a cover up??? Really??

7:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ALE will annouce soon if they have located Joran and confiscated his sex video movie.

7:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:24 There are literally hundreds of thousands of girls who go on Spring break in exotic locations in Mexico and Carribean. Many of them act just like Natalee did - and even more flamboyant than she. They are not sluts. They are girls cutting loose. And, they don't deserve to die for it. Watch Spring break on MTV, get enlightened.

7:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, Joran changes his story continually when it comes to "that night" and the Kalpoes. Yet, we're supposed to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Well, we may have once, but after three strikes, you're out. Who is leaning on the trash Kalpoes and Koen?? What are they just walking around like, what?, nothing ever happened?? I love the way they are Joran's "best friends" after a few months?? I saw the Kalpoes in interview along wtih everyone else....the mere fact Joran befriended these two tells me that he has severe self-esteem problems. Why would a supposedly well educated, well mannered (uh-huh) 17 year old take up with the Kalpoes. And, what are the Kalpoes into, as natives of Aruba? What religion, who do they hang with, what do they do for recreation - before they met Joran???

8:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nononsense1 said...
Aruba had 5 murders in 2005 that they cannot or will not provide a breakdown. They also have an island population of about 72.000 residents, so it stands to reason that the budget has been used on Natalee. For perspective the population of Birmingham Alabama is approx. 240,000. Also, note that the Aruban government has been offered assistance numerous times and refused that assistance. So, to your point, why would they do THAT? Why would they refuse assistance when offered? Naturally, a very small police force on a tourist island is not going to be equipped in personnel, knowledge or equipment for a case of this magnitude. Yet when offered assistance, they refuse. So, this leaves a negative impression with the public who is interested in finding Natalee. Just as obvious is lack of professionalism of a police force who failed miserably in the onset of the case - at the most crucial time to collect evidence. And, yes, the metropolitan police forces in the US and probably any other major country, are much better equipped to handle violent crimes, than Aruba, yet Aruba refuses, opting to WAIT for assistance from the Netherlands. And you wonder why the public thinks there is a cover up??? Really??



The only people that believe that are the few uninformed ignorant people who wouldn't know a fact if it hit them in the face. The FBI has been involved since day 1. The FBI can't just take over a case in another country. SEnator Bachus announced in his press conference that the FBI is involved and that the FBI is pleased with the progress. I think Sen Bachus is a little more credible than some internet bloggers.

And there is an American search group going to Aruba that will be searching. They are more credible than TES. TES is a joke. They are not credible, half of their time in Aruba was spent drinking in bars. Totally unprofessional.

8:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nononsense1 said...
Aruba had 5 murders in 2005 that they cannot or will not provide a breakdown. They also have an island population of about 72.000 residents, so it stands to reason that the budget has been used on Natalee. For perspective the population of Birmingham Alabama is approx. 240,000. Also, note that the Aruban government has been offered assistance numerous times and refused that assistance. So, to your point, why would they do THAT? Why would they refuse assistance when offered? Naturally, a very small police force on a tourist island is not going to be equipped in personnel, knowledge or equipment for a case of this magnitude. Yet when offered assistance, they refuse. So, this leaves a negative impression with the public who is interested in finding Natalee. Just as obvious is lack of professionalism of a police force who failed miserably in the onset of the case - at the most crucial time to collect evidence. And, yes, the metropolitan police forces in the US and probably any other major country, are much better equipped to handle violent crimes, than Aruba, yet Aruba refuses, opting to WAIT for assistance from the Netherlands. And you wonder why the public thinks there is a cover up??? Really??



The only people that believe that are the few uninformed ignorant people who wouldn't know a fact if it hit them in the face. The FBI has been involved since day 1. The FBI can't just take over a case in another country. SEnator Bachus announced in his press conference that the FBI is involved and that the FBI is pleased with the progress. I think Sen Bachus is a little more credible than some internet bloggers.

And there is an American search group going to Aruba that will be searching. They are more credible than TES. TES is a joke. They are not credible, half of their time in Aruba was spent drinking in bars. Totally unprofessional.

8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Oh yeah, Joran changes his story continually when it comes to "that night" and the Kalpoes. Yet, we're supposed to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Well, we may have once, but after three strikes, you're out. Who is leaning on the trash Kalpoes and Koen?? What are they just walking around like, what?, nothing ever happened?? I love the way they are Joran's "best friends" after a few months?? I saw the Kalpoes in interview along wtih everyone else....the mere fact Joran befriended these two tells me that he has severe self-esteem problems. Why would a supposedly well educated, well mannered (uh-huh) 17 year old take up with the Kalpoes. And, what are the Kalpoes into, as natives of Aruba? What religion, who do they hang with, what do they do for recreation - before they met Joran???


Maybe because he's not a racist like you obviously are.

8:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Joran's ABC & FOX interviews simply will not fly. Here the output produced by the LVA program is PROBABLE FLASE (You might see a different value, HIGHLY SUSPECT, depending on your individual belief) This value is obviously not TRUTH. Here is why the deception. Joran was threatened by the Mafia to pay up his gambling debts or else he would be terminated. The Mafia entertains the high Dutch government officials for corruption purposes every summer with an all out orgies party at which a young beautiful virgin girl will be the feast for the god Bifron, the Voodoo god of Aruba. Joran promised the Mafia a virgin will be delivered as soon as Natalee told him that she was a virgin, and Natalee was a beautiful young white blonde, priceless. The Mafia was excited and elated and sent out the invitations to all the officials on the Aruba island and Holland to come for the orgies feast. Joran drugged Natalee and
kidnaped her to the rave party. He and Deepak thought Natalee would re-appear after at some crackhouse bar, woke up and flew home by herself and forgot what had happened to her. Joran had done these deals over 20 times and everytime the kidnaping was fine. Only now then this time Natalee was missing and assumed being murdered. So "Something bad
happened." said Joran at the first minute of his confession at the Aruban Police headquarter. The whole Aruban government was shaken, and the coverups begun. Joran is the prime suspect of Natalee's rape and murder. He is trying to protect all the corrupted Dutch government officials. He knows the names of all the perverts in that rave party at Koen's house near the Lighthouse.



Wow I sure hope you can prove all of those accusations, if not you better be careful.

8:47 AM  
Blogger nutcracka said...

nonymous said...
Walks like a slut, talks like a slut, must be a slut.

7:24 AM

Are you some bitter, gay ,butt pirate that cant stand women? God forbid something like that ever happen to your mother or sister..

And if you are female, you sound like a jealous girl that no one wants to ____________ !

11:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didnt write this but it sounds like someone who lives in Aruba and may know about the RAVE parties? If so Please contact the FBI.Even tho Aruba doesnt let the FBI be apart of this case actively The FBI can do there own checking. And Aruba will have to listen. Anonymous said...
Joran's ABC & FOX interviews simply will not fly. Here the output produced by the LVA program is PROBABLE FLASE (You might see a different value, HIGHLY SUSPECT, depending on your individual belief) This value is obviously not TRUTH. Here is why the deception. Joran was threatened by the Mafia to pay up his gambling debts or else he would be terminated. The Mafia entertains the high Dutch government officials for corruption purposes every summer with an all out orgies party at which a young beautiful virgin girl will be the feast for the god Bifron, the Voodoo god of Aruba. Joran promised the Mafia a virgin will be delivered as soon as Natalee told him that she was a virgin, and Natalee was a beautiful young white blonde, priceless. The Mafia was excited and elated and sent out the invitations to all the officials on the Aruba island and Holland to come for the orgies feast. Joran drugged Natalee and
kidnaped her to the rave party. He and Deepak thought Natalee would re-appear after at some crackhouse bar, woke up and flew home by herself and forgot what had happened to her. Joran had done these deals over 20 times and everytime the kidnaping was fine. Only now then this time Natalee was missing and assumed being murdered. So "Something bad
happened." said Joran at the first minute of his confession at the Aruban Police headquarter. The whole Aruban government was shaken, and the coverups begun. Joran is the prime suspect of Natalee's rape and murder. He is trying to protect all the corrupted Dutch government officials. He knows the names of all the perverts in that rave party at Koen's house near the Lighthouse.

11:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FBI hasn't been involved in this investigation since the beginning and true they can't go in another country and take over, but when 70% of their money comes from American tourism and Natalee was one of those, it serves their interest the most to have the outside help of the FBI. The FBI have never said this case is going fine. They have never said nothing in public about it, but I'm sure behind closed doors when they are alone ..they have said a lot to each other about it. Tim Miller and Equisearch have been all over recovering missing people with much success.. The adults can't drink after work there now either? Sounds like a place that makes up rules and laws as they go along to self serve themselves. Show us where it says by the FBI this case has been handled great.. It all started with the 3 suspects allowing 2 BLACK security guards to sit in jail for 10 days while they cleaned up and got their stories straight. That sounds quite racist to most. Nonsense1 isn't ignorant. she has a lot of common sense. Senator Bacchus hasn't said anything else about this case.. He's probably too embarrassed to now..Here is a search in the sand dunes 3 months of reports of a body in the sand dunes..is that a tip off for someone to move it???? One big joke...the 3 suspects and the botched investigation..The main suspect seems to around taunting people and pointing the finger at the other 2, with their sick remarks about Natalee. Why would anyone go their at the chance of their family member going through so much BS.

12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth is in Aruba. All roads lead to Joran, Deepak, Sastise, Paulus, Koen, and others. When Aruba gets one of them to tell what really happened the case will be solved. Justice will be done for Natalee.Take back Aruba from the men who have taken it from you.

12:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:40 - Yes, the FBI has been is Aruba since day one, but they are limited to the extent of their involvement. The main FBI personnel remained on the island, for several months before leaving. THey reamin in contact as advisors, but not part of the ongoing search efforts.

Dompig refused equipment and the help of US search personnel. This is per statements, public, made by Donpig himself.

As for Senator Bachus - he is a politician. He, like most poliiticans has motivations beyond stating a hard opinion on the Aruban search.

As for "ignorant bloggers" to thine own self be true. Read the facts, the FBI can only assist and ALL RESOURCES are subordinate to the Aruban leads on this case. And, yes they did bollix this case miserably in its first 48 hours. And whoever believes otherwise should take the time and do some more reading.

12:39 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

Anonymous said...
THE FRIST THING A GOOD PARENT TEACHES A CHILD IS TO NEVER LIE.DO THEY LOVE YOU TO MUCH? BEING A PARENT IS THE HARDEST JOB ANYONE CAN DO AND YOU CAN NOT BE A FRIEND OR A BUDDY YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS BE A PARENT. I THINK YOUR PARENTS MISSED THE BOAT
11:17 PM


Interesting you are so quick to put down Joran's parents. Too bad Natalee's parents never taught her common sense, like : Don't get into a car with 3 strange men. Don't separate yourself from the group, Don't drink and get stupid drunk, Don't act in a way unbecoming a LADY like giving strange men shots off your stomach.

If Natalee's parents had taught her better she wouldn't have been in the situation to begin with.

Now, of course, you can say she was taught, but decided to go against her parent's teaching. If you go with that, then why not give the same benefit to Joran's parents?

1:13 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

Because Joran lied, that's why it's difficult to cut his parents some slack. Additionally, the father knew JOran drank and gambled underage. Uh, Hello. I have a 17 yr. old son who respects his parents and if he experiments would be doing so without my knowledge, as he'd regret the consequences upon discovery. Obviously, JOran is unafraid of parental consequences. As for NH, she was 18 and leaglly allowed to be in a club drinking and gambling. She made some very poor decisions, but guess what?? She didn't lie about it, cause she' not HERE. Joran is here though, and lied, obstructed an investigation (a crime in the US)and sat around not coming forward when the security guards (who he set-up) sat in jail. So, you tell me?? This isn't like a "cutting loose" thing, this is deliberate deception and harm to other person(s). So, no I am not inclined to believe this man, his parents, or friends that accompanied him the night NH disappeared. Just take a look at MTV's Spring Break and the level of partying that goes on in the teen world. Are you saying that because hundreds of thousands of teens on spring break act like drunk monkeys - they would deserve, or should expect, something bad to happen to them??? What??? Are their parents all bad parents??? That's alot of parents.

As for the RAVE party - If there was a RAVE party, it would stand to reason that there would be more than five attendees -Satish, Deepak, Joran, Natalee and Koen. So, if that were the case, it would seem that someone would have come forward my now to provide a statement to that effect, or tell what they did see. To my knowledge, this has not happened.

As for the Aruban investigation - the FBI was on the island for several months. From what I've read, they left and continue to "advise" the Aruban authorities...uh, ok. That's a big help, expecially when the Aruban authorities are the lead investigative team with the authority to do what they will with any information provided to them... including refuse it, ignore it and refute it. Of late, Dompig is on record as having refused US assitance with personnel and equipment, opting to wait for the same to arrive from the Netherlands. That was approaximately 4 weeks ago. Does anyone kow if the equipment, dogs and personnel arrived? If so, are they NOW engaged in a search? In the beginning, the Aruban authorities allowed private searches, now they are opting to search on their own in the places provided as "leads" to NH whereabouts. I find this approach inconsistent at best. Let's face it, if they said "sure US citizens come on down and help searchfor Natalee" there'd be several thousand people on their way. They really can't have that kind os press, that would look even worse than they already do... Also, there is information out there suggesting that the authorities have known about Koen Gotenboos for quite some time. So, what happened with this guy and his father, who is also (coincidentlally) well-connected into the island government. They have a boat and supposedly there was a call placed to either the father, son or both during the time NH disappeared. So, what of that??

Anyway, I would have to say that given ALL the information thus far, the results weigh heavily to some type of cover-up with regard to this case. Who is behind it and why are the key questions. Is this simply a case of three-four men conspiring for their freedom, or is it deeper than that? Are these men receiveing "help" from Aruban officials through discretely looking in the opposite direction, or are there pay-offs occuring to ensure the ivestigation's incompetencies. Is there a money trail anywhere that can be traced to quantify gambling debts, or sums of monies (could be deposit amounts lower than usual, could be withdrawls from trusts, etc)moving into straw accounts, or off-shore accounts. Who's the owner of Carlos and Charlies? What does he know of the movement of ecstasy and roofies in his club. He's lying if he says there isn't any. All clubs have some and Aruba's incidient in drug traffic has increased with the cruise ship trade. So, exactly who are the main sources on the island benefiting from the movement of those drugs?? By now, the investigative team should have answers to all these questions. Perhaps they are close to fitting the pieces together and cannot reveal information, but one thing is for certain. At least one of the men with Natalee the night she disappeared knows more than they are revealing. It is a disgusting situation, as yes, in the technicality of the law they are innocent until proven guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt). From what I've seen of these young men and Joran's parents, there is absolutely no doubt in my nind that Joran has not had appropriate guidance from an authoritive figure. This is why he has so little regard for the authorities in this case. Satish and Deepak seem like totally lost causes. Whether the interview tapes were editied or not, you can't edit IN the hate and anomosity that was demopnstrated venomously in the dialog. So, the very best we can hope for is a break - finding a body, or having someone who just can't live with themselves come forward with the truth. We are all born to a purpose, perhaps Natalees is to make people aware of the dark side that lurks in the places we would most associate with fun and safety.

1:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I vote we don't let Joran do anymore interviews. Once all the attentions wains. He'll get upset and have to say something to get back in the limelight. It is entirely possible to convince oneself of ANYTHING. Psychologically, Joran truly believes he is innocent because he doesn't have the ability to tell the truth on this subject. Just like some people can't start the day without a cup of coffee. Joran only knows how to lie. Why? Because that's all he knows. He learned it from his father. His father is a professional liar (lawyer). He'll hang himself one way or the other. Unless, of course someone does it first. Joran, it pains me to say this, but I actually feel sorry for you. You don't have a bloody clue as to what you're doing to your self, your family,your country and the Holloway family. You don't even have the ability to even care about it. Forget this kid. He will never fess up. He doesn't know how. Good night NH. Sorry you had to be the one.

Gerald

2:05 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

I ageree, I don't think the media should give Joran a nano second of air time. All he ever does is give us new lies, anyway. All the media does is concede to his demands on what he can, and cannot be asked during questioning. He asks for uneditied interviews, then provides a list of subjects that are off-limits.

I don't care how smart anyone, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on in this case. Joran is now nothing. The only thing that identifies him to the world is the disappearance, believed dead, young woman. Without that, who is Joran van der Sloot?? No one. NO ONE AT ALL.

2:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nononsense1 said...
I ageree, I don't think the media should give Joran a nano second of air time. All he ever does is give us new lies, anyway. All the media does is concede to his demands on what he can, and cannot be asked during questioning. He asks for uneditied interviews, then provides a list of subjects that are off-limits.

I don't care how smart anyone, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on in this case. Joran is now nothing. The only thing that identifies him to the world is the disappearance, believed dead, young woman. Without that, who is Joran van der Sloot?? No one. NO ONE AT ALL.


I'm sorry I think you meant to say Beth, not Joran.

2:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nononsense1 said...
Because Joran lied, that's why it's difficult to cut his parents some slack. Additionally, the father knew JOran drank and gambled underage. Uh, Hello. I have a 17 yr. old son who respects his parents and if he experiments would be doing so without my knowledge, as he'd regret the consequences upon discovery. Obviously, JOran is unafraid of parental consequences. As for NH, she was 18 and leaglly allowed to be in a club drinking and gambling. She made some very poor decisions, but guess what?? She didn't lie about it, cause she' not HERE. Joran is here though, and lied, obstructed an investigation (a crime in the US)and sat around not coming forward when the security guards (who he set-up) sat in jail. So, you tell me?? This isn't like a "cutting loose" thing, this is deliberate deception and harm to other person(s). So, no I am not inclined to believe this man, his parents, or friends that accompanied him the night NH disappeared. Just take a look at MTV's Spring Break and the level of partying that goes on in the teen world. Are you saying that because hundreds of thousands of teens on spring break act like drunk monkeys - they would deserve, or should expect, something bad to happen to them??? What??? Are their parents all bad parents??? That's alot of parents.

As for the RAVE party - If there was a RAVE party, it would stand to reason that there would be more than five attendees -Satish, Deepak, Joran, Natalee and Koen. So, if that were the case, it would seem that someone would have come forward my now to provide a statement to that effect, or tell what they did see. To my knowledge, this has not happened.

As for the Aruban investigation - the FBI was on the island for several months. From what I've read, they left and continue to "advise" the Aruban authorities...uh, ok. That's a big help, expecially when the Aruban authorities are the lead investigative team with the authority to do what they will with any information provided to them... including refuse it, ignore it and refute it. Of late, Dompig is on record as having refused US assitance with personnel and equipment, opting to wait for the same to arrive from the Netherlands. That was approaximately 4 weeks ago. Does anyone kow if the equipment, dogs and personnel arrived? If so, are they NOW engaged in a search? In the beginning, the Aruban authorities allowed private searches, now they are opting to search on their own in the places provided as "leads" to NH whereabouts. I find this approach inconsistent at best. Let's face it, if they said "sure US citizens come on down and help searchfor Natalee" there'd be several thousand people on their way. They really can't have that kind os press, that would look even worse than they already do... Also, there is information out there suggesting that the authorities have known about Koen Gotenboos for quite some time. So, what happened with this guy and his father, who is also (coincidentlally) well-connected into the island government. They have a boat and supposedly there was a call placed to either the father, son or both during the time NH disappeared. So, what of that??

Anyway, I would have to say that given ALL the information thus far, the results weigh heavily to some type of cover-up with regard to this case. Who is behind it and why are the key questions. Is this simply a case of three-four men conspiring for their freedom, or is it deeper than that? Are these men receiveing "help" from Aruban officials through discretely looking in the opposite direction, or are there pay-offs occuring to ensure the ivestigation's incompetencies. Is there a money trail anywhere that can be traced to quantify gambling debts, or sums of monies (could be deposit amounts lower than usual, could be withdrawls from trusts, etc)moving into straw accounts, or off-shore accounts. Who's the owner of Carlos and Charlies? What does he know of the movement of ecstasy and roofies in his club. He's lying if he says there isn't any. All clubs have some and Aruba's incidient in drug traffic has increased with the cruise ship trade. So, exactly who are the main sources on the island benefiting from the movement of those drugs?? By now, the investigative team should have answers to all these questions. Perhaps they are close to fitting the pieces together and cannot reveal information, but one thing is for certain. At least one of the men with Natalee the night she disappeared knows more than they are revealing. It is a disgusting situation, as yes, in the technicality of the law they are innocent until proven guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt). From what I've seen of these young men and Joran's parents, there is absolutely no doubt in my nind that Joran has not had appropriate guidance from an authoritive figure. This is why he has so little regard for the authorities in this case. Satish and Deepak seem like totally lost causes. Whether the interview tapes were editied or not, you can't edit IN the hate and anomosity that was demopnstrated venomously in the dialog. So, the very best we can hope for is a break - finding a body, or having someone who just can't live with themselves come forward with the truth. We are all born to a purpose, perhaps Natalees is to make people aware of the dark side that lurks in the places we would most associate with fun and safety.



I love it when some poster thinks because they write some long winded post it somehow makes them sound intelligent or shows they know what they're talking about. Actually it just shows over and over they don't have a clue.

3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
8:40 - Yes, the FBI has been is Aruba since day one, but they are limited to the extent of their involvement. The main FBI personnel remained on the island, for several months before leaving. THey reamin in contact as advisors, but not part of the ongoing search efforts.

Dompig refused equipment and the help of US search personnel. This is per statements, public, made by Donpig himself.

As for Senator Bachus - he is a politician. He, like most poliiticans has motivations beyond stating a hard opinion on the Aruban search.

As for "ignorant bloggers" to thine own self be true. Read the facts, the FBI can only assist and ALL RESOURCES are subordinate to the Aruban leads on this case. And, yes they did bollix this case miserably in its first 48 hours. And whoever believes otherwise should take the time and do some more reading.

UH DUH! It's because Aruba is not America. the fact that they are even allowing the FBI to have a role in the investigation says a lot. Do you think that the FBI allows a foreign country to participate in an American investigation?

3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doxiehuahua said...
Anonymous said...
THE FRIST THING A GOOD PARENT TEACHES A CHILD IS TO NEVER LIE.DO THEY LOVE YOU TO MUCH? BEING A PARENT IS THE HARDEST JOB ANYONE CAN DO AND YOU CAN NOT BE A FRIEND OR A BUDDY YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS BE A PARENT. I THINK YOUR PARENTS MISSED THE BOAT
11:17 PM


Interesting you are so quick to put down Joran's parents. Too bad Natalee's parents never taught her common sense, like : Don't get into a car with 3 strange men. Don't separate yourself from the group, Don't drink and get stupid drunk, Don't act in a way unbecoming a LADY like giving strange men shots off your stomach.

If Natalee's parents had taught her better she wouldn't have been in the situation to begin with.

Now, of course, you can say she was taught, but decided to go against her parent's teaching. If you go with that, then why not give the same benefit to Joran's parents?

But didn't you know, Beth said on National Tv that she didn't have Natalee long enough to explain these things to her. Forget the fact that every other parent teaches their children these things by the time they are five years old.

3:05 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

3:03 - Ahh DUH - The FBI does collaborate with foreign countries on investigations. Also the US, as stated, has forensics and resources far beyond an island with 72,000 population. So, in this case, since is so very damaging to the image Aruba, it would stand to reason that Aruba be more inclined (since they are struggling SO MUCH) to accept help, even if only in equipment, from alternative resources.

Do you really beleive that Aruba has done as good as job as say, the NYC investigative/forensic team??? Or, so you think they've done as good a job as a like size town in the US?? They were unprepared for this. THey thought this would go away, not become an international story that could blow the lid off their cushy corruption dealings. Now everyone knows and everyone waits. If you think otherwise, you muct not hang in the islands very often. Everyone who does and has any business dealings knows how very corrupt the governments are - makes the US look like ameteaur hour.

3:19 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

So what, Natalee made a bad decision - she's paid the price. What has Joran paid? A couple of months in detention?? Not even close, my friend, not even close. Natalee was wild that night, but did she deserve to die?? Joran lied at least three time and put innocent men behind bars - didn't care. Why's that? Were these men expendable because of social class or race, or both?? He walked around free while the security guards sat in jail. He obstructed an investigation. I have yet to read how any Joran devotees successfully defend these actions. This guy knows more than he is saying, He's sick. At best he needs psychiatric help. No one is gettng it to him - how's THAT for great parenting.

3:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noone knows the reason Natalee got in the car with them...Maybe she thought it was a taxi..Deepak was outside waiting in the car? Maybe he said he was staying at Holiday Inn as a guest also.. Noone knows if she was drugged or not.. Maybe he said he would give her a ride to Holiday Inn..Maybe Maybe Maybe..I don't know anyone at some time who hasn't drank too much, lucky for many that someone wasn't sitting close by to take advantage of the situation..and yes but for the grace go any of us..Whatever..it is.... 4 went out and 3 came back....and Natalee had no transportation..no ID, no passport, no clothes, no money, no food and was relativly a stranger to Aruba having only been there about 4 days.. that she spent with her graduating class. The 3 lied to the cops repeatedly and set 2 other people up for Natalee's disappearance.. If they truly thought she would show up why would they let 2 men sit in jail on suspicion of murder and kidnapping for 10 days. Those 10 days come free came in handy to the suspects. I would say the victim is the person missing. Still the suspects stories don't match..and never have.

3:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nononsense1 said...
3:03 - Ahh DUH - The FBI does collaborate with foreign countries on investigations. Also the US, as stated, has forensics and resources far beyond an island with 72,000 population. So, in this case, since is so very damaging to the image Aruba, it would stand to reason that Aruba be more inclined (since they are struggling SO MUCH) to accept help, even if only in equipment, from alternative resources.

Do you really beleive that Aruba has done as good as job as say, the NYC investigative/forensic team??? Or, so you think they've done as good a job as a like size town in the US?? They were unprepared for this. THey thought this would go away, not become an international story that could blow the lid off their cushy corruption dealings. Now everyone knows and everyone waits. If you think otherwise, you muct not hang in the islands very often. Everyone who does and has any business dealings knows how very corrupt the governments are - makes the US look like ameteaur hour




Dear before you post your rants it would be helpful to comprehend the post that you are responding to. I was referring to the poster who was complaining about the FBI only having a limited role in the case. The FBI never takes over a case in a foreign country.
Now as far as the NYC investigators. Let's see, they receive an anonymous phone call telling them exactly where to find the body, it wasn't big detective work. How long do you tghink the body would remain there if they didn't get a call? They were able to trace the phone call, there was DNA evidence all over the victim. Please tell me where the body of Natalee is, where is the DNA evidence? Where is the evidence that she is dead? They received a new tip and are searching the sand dunes with a reputable American search team.

3:48 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

Anonymous said...
Noone knows the reason Natalee got in the car with them...Maybe she thought it was a taxi..Deepak was outside waiting in the car? Maybe he said he was staying at Holiday Inn as a guest also.. Noone knows if she was drugged or not.. Maybe he said he would give her a ride to Holiday Inn..Maybe Maybe Maybe..

3:24 PM

Maybe she thought Joran was cute and wanted to have a tropical island affair.

Maybe she was tired of getting overlooked because the other girls were prettier and jumped at the chance to have the attention of 3 men all to herself.

Maybe she didn't want to return home and wanted to be left on her own to sneak away from her life in AL.

Like you said...maybe,maybe, maybe

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran is guilty of at least raping her against her will.

He will never tell the truth so the case will never be solved. If it was going to be solved, it would have been already. I think we're ALL trying to hard to not let go. If it were me, I'd rather be in prison, then be a public outcast. Looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life seems like prison to me.

Either way, Joran is screwed. So the real question is: Do you serve your 5 - 10 years now and move on OR spend the rest of your life in misery and eternity in Hell. Whether you are a believer or a non-believer. I think it's safe to say that Hitler and Ghandi are not hanging out together drinking Latte's somewhere. Dig it?

ps. enough with the vulgar comments about any of those involved, particularly Natalee. It's not polite or necessary.

Papi
Orangestad

4:32 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

Anonymous said...
Joran is guilty of at least raping her against her will.

Papi
Orangestad

4:32 PM


Wow, I didn't know you were there! Since you know *that* happened, maybe you can let the authorities know what happened next.

4:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: "Either way, Joran is screwed"

WRONG: They good-ol-boys in Aruba have been working overtime since day one to cover this up and make sure that the son of a prominent member of the judicial elite never gets convicted of anything. Hell, right now Dompig PIG is on a rampage trying to sidetrack the case by 'investigating' Greta.

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5:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anita and Paulus raised a man with no morals and wouldnt know the truth if he was faced with it.They trained joran they should have known he would end up like he has.Prince of Darkness is his nick name.They can blame themselfs .joran has contrilled them and they let him.

5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If natalee is not found and Justice is not given Aruba will go broke.All for men not even born in Aruba.

5:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Father has KILLED his Son's Soul.

5:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alex Gottenbos's Lets hear from you and your son. Call the FBI if you are not involded.

5:25 PM  
Blogger nononsense1 said...

3:48 I am the blogger who made the point about the FBI, you responded and I debated, DEAR. The FBI team that was assisting left Aruba after spending several months... they are only advising now.

As for the FBI, I never said they TOOK OVER a case on foreign soil. My point is that the Aruban police investigation was compromised from their inability to respond more quickly, collect forensic evidence from cars, boats, and such. It was apprx. 72 hours before they were collecting evidence. These men could have doused themselves, their cars, and everything else in bleach 50 times before the police caought up to them. That nothwithstading, they had PLENTY of time to go back, move and dispose of a body.

It is my understanding that the current search is not with American teams, but with teams and equipment from the Netherlands. What is your source of information? The last information on TV broadcast was that Dompig denied US assistance and was waiting for The Netherlands. It caused a major stink. No action was being taken for at least two-three weeks because of this decision. Two weeks later, the resources from the Netherlands, still had not arrived - and that was 2-3 weeks ago. So, where are they now with this search?? If you have a source, please advise.

I am not referencing the NYC forensic and investigative teams effort in regard to just this latest murder. Generally, any major US city would have more experience, resources and preparedness than the team on Aruba. This is not a critism, but a fact. Aruba is a very small island. The drug trade has escalted in the wharf area where the cruise lines come in... The islands typically do not disrupt drug trade as it is "bread and butter" to their marginal economy. Hence there is corruption, prevalent in the islands. To think this case would not be affected by this is naive.

I hope that justice is served in this case. Whom ever is responsible for hurting natalee deserves to be brought to justice. Whether she was dancing on tables is irrelevant, she didn't deserve to die. She didn't deserve to be taken from her family. Joran and all the other men who were with Natalee reside in the comfort of their families. I suspect where Natalee is, she's not very comfortable.

6:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny Natalee wanted to have a tropical island affair on the night she had too much to drink and Joran bought her the strongest drink in the house.. and was never seen again..just like it's funny he had no condoms, his shoes are missing and so is Natalee. She might have liked Joran and trusted him..but that shouldn't cause a person to go missing..and Natalee is alive like Jimmy Hoffa has been the past 20 plus years..Wait 5 more years..Natalee will still be just as dead as she was last June.

6:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To whomever referred to Joran and the two boys featured in the first picture on this blog "Joran and the death squad". These two boys are in the Netherlands and had nothing to do with the disapperance of Natalee Holloway. They had probably not ever heard of Joran until he moved back there to go to school. Think whatever you like about Joran, but leave these two kids out of it.

7:41 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

Anonymous said...
Anita and Paulus raised a man with no morals 5:11 PM

I guess the same can be said for the parents of the girl who didn't have morals enough not to let a man take a drink off her body, made out with a stranger and got into a car full of strange men.

I really don't think this case is about blaming parents, but if you feel it is I think Natalee's parents would have to take the cake as the more lacking parents.

Truth be told, both teens seem like over-indulged, spoiled little rich brats to me.

Too bad Natalee disappeared because they really sound like the perfect couple.

I honestly don't believe Joran is guilty of anything but bad judgement. Just as Natalee is guilty of the same.

Joran's life is ruined because people want to label him a rapist and a murderer. People are so eager to charge someone with the disappearance they don't care about destroying someone who is innocent until proven guilty.

He is just a kid himself and he will have to live with everyone saying these things about him. Even if nothing is ever proved, or if they find out what really happened to many he will never have his name cleared.

8:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee didn't become a victim by deceiving people..She wasn't engaged in anything illegal the day she disappeared. She didn't set 2 people up for a crime and let them sit in jail for 10 days. She didn't make vulgar comments about Joran and his family. She stay home and hire lawyers while everyone was looking for her or sit around with the father/family making up false albis.. so I really don't think Joran and Natalee can be compared..as being equal. She was drinking and having a good time with her friends..and would've made it back to her hotel had the underage one..not been allowed to enter.

8:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:25 just exactly how do you know that Natalee died last June?

8:56 PM  
Anonymous lady_justice said...

No females of any age want to go to aruba and who can blame them.
one only need to read the vile posts directed to Natalee & her family. these cowards with no name
are helping the boycott effort and they are to stupid to realize it.
hahahaha

9:19 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

lady_justice said...
No females of any age want to go to aruba and who can blame them.
9:19 PM

Really? My friend (early 20s) went last summer and had a wonderful time. She even got engaged there. She said she never felt at risk while being there and would love to go back.

9:34 PM  
Anonymous Tatianna said...

how does it feel knowing the fbi has your scumbag family on the flight watch list?

HAHAHAHAHA


SUCKS TO BE A vandersweat huh?

lol

9:44 PM  
Anonymous lady_justice said...

Really? My friend (early 20s) went last summer and had a wonderful time. She even got engaged there. She said she never felt at risk while being there and would love to go back.

9:34 PM

Really?? good for her and if by chance (something bad happens) we can all join in calling her a slut who asked for it aye?

9:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If want to scared out of your mind come to the USA. Drive by shooting, kidnappings, murders, rape, robberies, drugs, child molestors... if it is crime you want USA has it all.

9:56 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

lady_justice said...

Really?? good for her and if by chance (something bad happens) we can all join in calling her a slut who asked for it aye?

9:50 PM

My friend isn't dumb enough to go off alone with 3 strange guys.

10:21 PM  
Anonymous cenote530 said...

for the first 3 months of Natalee's case i only watched tv coverage & thought aruba would do the right thing to those last seen with Natalee. maaaaan... have my eyes been opened having read how aruba really feels about tourists, especially female visitors. So many two faced bastards who on 1 hand want to sell you drinks & lies of a *Safe Island* and the other hand sees you as a target to take advantage of, a slut who deserves all your abuse.
One man..Jossy Mansuer? didn't come off that way. He's the only one who's shown humanity to this girl & her family.

10:37 PM  
Anonymous lady_justice said...

if she's going to aruba & buying into aruba's BS then she's 1 dumb bitch...boyfriend there or not, just look at George Smith on the July 2005 cruise. so again.....go right ahead to aruba, pay your money & take your chances but don't look for much sympathy from aruba or anyone else.

10:44 PM  
Anonymous angie said...

how does it feel knowing the fbi has your scumbag family on the flight watch list?

HAHAHAHAHA


SUCKS TO BE A vandersweat huh?

lol

hahaha you know it does and they deserve every minute of it.

10:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

re Einstein's friend.. who cares if your friend went and came back..Natalee didn't and she was a paying tourist too.. They were glad to take her money...and show no respect when she was missing to her or her family.

10:56 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

lady_justice said...
if she's going to aruba & buying into aruba's BS then she's 1 dumb bitch...boyfriend there or not, just look at George Smith on the July 2005 cruise. so again.....go right ahead to aruba, pay your money & take your chances but don't look for much sympathy from aruba or anyone else.

10:44 PM

The George Smith thing had nothing to do with Aruba. Take your chances? What? Do you think people should never leave their homes for fear of what might happen?

Again, the key is being responsible for yourself. Drink and have a good time, but don't drink yourself stupid. That seems to have been a factor in both of these stories.

11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a better idea..don't go ...it's not worth all the BS Natalee's family has had to endure for 10 months now.

11:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalee did demonstrate poor judgement, but nothing unusual for women her age on spring break (check out MTV spring break). I would resist trying to make a moral case out of Natalee's behavior. The men involved took control of an intoxicted woman withone goal in mind. Whether she was willing is secondary to the fact that she was never seem again. Imagine if Natalee and Joran had been long time girl and boyfriend - woudl it make a difference? She'd still be gone. He'd still be lying about it. That's the real oint here. It's the deception and poor handling of the case by the Aruban government. Plain and simple. Don't complicate it. He lied, lied, lied... none of us really know what the truth is, Joran lied so much. He didn't caser about the two men in jail because of his lies, what makes any of you think he cares about Natalee's fate in the face of his lies? He's a bad egg.

11:35 PM  
Anonymous lady_justice said...

damn your dumb....my point was even with a boyfriend you can still be targeted & once ya see how victims are treated so shitty
your odds of REAL help are slim to none. thats where taking your chances come into play.
i didn't day a damn word about not leaving your home??? i said when you see how shitty victims & their families are treated on holiday don't expect to be treated any better.

11:38 PM  
Anonymous Tatianna said...

Great Point Anon 1:35

Those men don't even care about their own families or they wouldn't be dragging them down with their lies & deceit.

11:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joran, Did you watch your wonderful lawyeron Bill Oreilly tonight? He got eaten up.Also joe said your daddy is paying him no probono from joe. Bill Oreilly would love to interveiw you anytime he would flatten your ass. No softball interveiws from Bill. Also did you see Greta's show she read statements deepak made in the begginning which sounds nothing like what you are saying. Noone thinks you have stopped lying you are still lying and you are hanging yourself. Justice for Natalee will happen and it will happen soon.Why drag your family down any further time is almost gone and to have them put money out for you and end up going to jail is foolish of you.

3:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well if VDS's and Kalpoes and now the Gottonbos family are so innocent why havent they taken a polly with the FBI maybe because they arent? As far as Koen's father being apart of goverment he still isnt protected from being charged with murder if he is involded. Maybe the United States Goverment will step in soon if this is true.That way the AG can get involded also. There is no way in HELL you can cover this up. I dont care who you are. These kids will never have a Normal life they will be SUSPECTS the rest of there lifes. They are walking dead men and I do not mean someone will kill them. I mean there fathers have killed there furtures forver by trying to cover it up. The SINS OF THE FATHERS LAY ON THE SOULS OF THE SONS.THE FATHERS HAVE DOOMED THE SONS . Aruba has all the answers. To the sick asses who smear Beth You need to Stop the Hate. Americans will never forget. You are cutting off the hand that feeds you by bashing Americans.Koen come forward before you get hung out to dry.they all will be passing the blame unto you soon now that your name is out you are being watched 24/7. By everyone not just the FBI.

Joran, You do not have a chance of getting by with what you have done.Koen we dont care who your daddy is if you are ivolded he will not be able to help you, Deepak,Sastice You all are going to pay one day. THE LONG ARM OF JUSTICE WILL GET YOU SOON.

4:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didnt write this but it sounds like someone who lives in Aruba and may know about the RAVE parties? If so Please contact the FBI.Even tho Aruba doesnt let the FBI be apart of this case actively The FBI can do there own checking. And Aruba will have to listen. Anonymous said...
Joran's ABC & FOX interviews simply will not fly. Here the output produced by the LVA program is PROBABLE FLASE (You might see a different value, HIGHLY SUSPECT, depending on your individual belief) This value is obviously not TRUTH. Here is why the deception. Joran was threatened by the Mafia to pay up his gambling debts or else he would be terminated. The Mafia entertains the high Dutch government officials for corruption purposes every summer with an all out orgies party at which a young beautiful virgin girl will be the feast for the god Bifron, the Voodoo god of Aruba. Joran promised the Mafia a virgin will be delivered as soon as Natalee told him that she was a virgin, and Natalee was a beautiful young white blonde, priceless. The Mafia was excited and elated and sent out the invitations to all the officials on the Aruba island and Holland to come for the orgies feast. Joran drugged Natalee and
kidnaped her to the rave party. He and Deepak thought Natalee would re-appear after at some crackhouse bar, woke up and flew home by herself and forgot what had happened to her. Joran had done these deals over 20 times and everytime the kidnaping was fine. Only now then this time Natalee was missing and assumed being murdered. So "Something bad
happened." said Joran at the first minute of his confession at the Aruban Police headquarter. The whole Aruban government was shaken, and the coverups begun. Joran is the prime suspect of Natalee's rape and murder. He is trying to protect all the corrupted Dutch government officials. He knows the names of all the perverts in that rave party at Koen's house near the Lighthouse.

4:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now we know the reason for the strange behavior of the Twitts and B'ham. MAD COW....................

7:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

doxie,

I did let them know. They don't care, just like you.

"If want to scared out of your mind come to the USA. Drive by shooting, kidnappings, murders, rape, robberies, drugs, child molestors... if it is crime you want USA has it all."

9:56 PM

You obviously are not from The USA. If so, you missed one to many English classes. You may want to consider educating yourself before making yourself look foolish. Check out this webpage for crime statistics: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_percap
Lastly, ALL countries have crime.

Papi

9:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I didnt write this but it sounds like someone who lives in Aruba and may know about the RAVE parties? If so Please contact the FBI.Even tho Aruba doesnt let the FBI be apart of this case actively The FBI can do there own checking. And Aruba will have to listen. Anonymous said...
Joran's ABC & FOX interviews simply will not fly. Here the output produced by the LVA program is PROBABLE FLASE (You might see a different value, HIGHLY SUSPECT, depending on your individual belief) This value is obviously not TRUTH. Here is why the deception. Joran was threatened by the Mafia to pay up his gambling debts or else he would be terminated. The Mafia entertains the high Dutch government officials for corruption purposes every summer with an all out orgies party at which a young beautiful virgin girl will be the feast for the god Bifron, the Voodoo god of Aruba. Joran promised the Mafia a virgin will be delivered as soon as Natalee told him that she was a virgin, and Natalee was a beautiful young white blonde, priceless. The Mafia was excited and elated and sent out the invitations to all the officials on the Aruba island and Holland to come for the orgies feast. Joran drugged Natalee and
kidnaped her to the rave party. He and Deepak thought Natalee would re-appear after at some crackhouse bar, woke up and flew home by herself and forgot what had happened to her. Joran had done these deals over 20 times and everytime the kidnaping was fine. Only now then this time Natalee was missing and assumed being murdered. So "Something bad
happened." said Joran at the first minute of his confession at the Aruban Police headquarter. The whole Aruban government was shaken, and the coverups begun. Joran is the prime suspect of Natalee's rape and murder. He is trying to protect all the corrupted Dutch government officials. He knows the names of all the perverts in that rave party at Koen's house near the Lighthouse.



LOL. Some people really have wild imaginations. Yeah send that to the FBI, I'm sure they could use a few good laughs.

9:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Anon @ 9:56 PM

I stand corrected on the crime stats. The following site: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_tot_cri_percap
shows total crimes per capita. The US is ranked 8th and oddly enough The Netherlands is 9th. No correlation, I'm sure.

However, at the end of the day when all the finger pointing and name calling is done. A person had her life taken away. We all have to go sometime. Hopefully later rather than sooner. That expiration date should be natures way, not by the hand of another. NOBODY has the right to make that decision for you. We all seem to forget that. People don't really care if it was Joran and his buddies or not. I think it would be intersting if it wasn't.

But deep down inside, everyone knows who did it. Do you?

Papi

9:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nononsense1 said...
If you review the more notable missing person cases througout the last 50 years, you'll see that the most successful "finds" were a result of highly COOPERATIVE, highly COMPETENT, highly COLLABORATIVE work on the parts of the investigative team AND the loved ones of the missing.

but critical is one thing, totally vulgar and indecent is another.
___________________________________

Oh really, you might want to talk to the family of the missing Georgia woman who have said they are getting NO information from the GBI. You also might want to talk to the family of George Allen Smith who said they are getting NO information from the FBI.
And the only vulgar comments are those aimed at Joran and his family and right out of Beth's mouth. It's one thing to think he's guilty, it's another thing to call him , kidnapper, predator, sociopath, gang rapist on national tv and Beth will be eating those ewords. There has never been a grieving mother or family that has crossed the line the way she has.
The family of the missing Florida girl even took a shot at Beth when they said on Tv that the fund that they set up with Bank of America is the only way to do it and that they will have an accounting of every penny that is spent on finding their daughter available to the American public.

9:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Dear Anon @ 9:56 PM

I stand corrected on the crime stats. The following site: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_tot_cri_percap
shows total crimes per capita. The US is ranked 8th and oddly enough The Netherlands is 9th. No correlation, I'm sure.




The Netherlands and Aruba are two different places with their own crime statistics.

9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Netherlands and Aruba are two different places with their own crime statistics.

9:37 AM

Did you come up with that all by yourself or did your mommy help you?

9:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The Netherlands and Aruba are two different places with their own crime statistics.

9:37 AM

Did you come up with that all by yourself or did your mommy help you?

Wow that was a great post. Boy are you clever.

Anonymous said...
I stand corrected on the crime stats. The following site: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_tot_cri_percap
shows total crimes per capita. The US is ranked 8th and oddly enough The Netherlands is 9th. No correlation, I'm sure.
__________________________________-
For your information when someone
makes an idiotic statement like that trying to say the netherlands crime statistics have anything to do with Aruba crime statistics needs a little lesson to straighten out their cluttered mind.

9:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beth is totally over the top with her accusations and verbal threats. Unless she has proof of what she is saying. She's digging herself deeper by the minute. It's obvious she had some unfinished business with Natalee and now she'll never be able to clear it up. She's mad at Joran for that and Joran has done nothing to help her or himself.

Is anyone looking for Natalee today?

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Now we know the reason for the strange behavior of the Twitts and B'ham. MAD COW....................

7:11 AM


MAD COW??? Who Anita :-)

10:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Beth is totally over the top with her accusations and verbal threats. Unless she has proof of what she is saying. She's digging herself deeper by the minute. It's obvious she had some unfinished business with Natalee and now she'll never be able to clear it up. She's mad at Joran for that and Joran has done nothing to help her or himself.

Is anyone looking for Natalee today?




Looking for Natalee? You mean using all that money that was donated to actually look for Natalee? It seems to the family feels that the money is better spent on frivolous lawsuits.

10:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I weep for the future if this is all we can come up with. What do you think a defense fund is for? Do you actually know the Holloways are spending these monies on lawsuits or are you merely speculating. No response is necessary. I know the answer. Remember, there wouldn't have to be any frivolous lawsuits if Joran told the truth.

10:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you jealous fuckers should mind your business about how Beth spends the money....losers

10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best thing about no moderation is people get to speak their minds.

Mind your own business is right. You might do the same thing yourself if in the same situation.

Any ideas on how long it will take Joran to cave in? I'll take August 2006 for $5.00

10:50 AM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

Anonymous said...
you jealous [vulgarity removed] should mind your business about how Beth spends the money....losers

10:39 AM

When people solicit funds from the public, the public has a right to know how that money is being spent.

10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doxiehuahua said...



When people solicit funds from the public, the public has a right to know how that money is being spent.

Doxiehuahua said...


My friend isn't dumb enough to go off alone with 3 strange guys.

10:21 PM



Obviously,you were referring to Natalee...so obviously you are a Joran supporter ...THEREFORE, I DONT think you donated a penny..so THEREFORE that , Doxie-hula hoop, makes it none of your damn business



Oh yeah, just how much did you donate for Natalees search????

11:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doxie huahua

Are they soliciting or asking for volunteer contributions? There is a difference. By law, only a contributor, not the "public", may request a breakdown of expenditures. If you made a contribution and are wondering where the money goes. Just ask:
https://www.amsouth.com/contact/contact.asp

11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I weep for the future if this is all we can come up with. What do you think a defense fund is for? Do you actually know the Holloways are spending these monies on lawsuits or are you merely speculating. No response is necessary. I know the answer. Remember, there wouldn't have to be any frivolous lawsuits if Joran told the truth.

No it's not just being spent on the lawsuit it's being spent on Tundras, fat boy motorcycles and botox.


The family of the missing girl in Florida too a diesct shot at the Twitty family when they said the only way to do a fund is the way they set it up with Bank One and that an accounting of EVERY SINGLE PENNY is availbale to the public to show where the money has been spent. Obviously they have nothing to hide.

11:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Doxie huahua

Are they soliciting or asking for volunteer contributions? There is a difference. By law, only a contributor, not the "public", may request a breakdown of expenditures. If you made a contribution and are wondering where the money goes. Just ask:
https://www.amsouth.com/contact/contact.asp



That has been done by many contributors
and it's been posted by many people on different boards that AM South said there will be no accounting of the funds made public. They set up the trust specifically that way so it could be kept from the public.

Go try it yourself.

11:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You forgot airfair, fundraiser attire, hotel accomodations.

11:32 AM  
Blogger nutcracka said...

Anonymous said...



No it's not just being spent on the lawsuit it's being spent on Tundras, fat boy motorcycles and botox.


Fat Boy(Harley Davidson) ????
WTF???????????????????????????????????????????????

They should've bought a Softail Deuce????????????

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Softtails are for pu**ys...
What's your ride Nut, The Metro?
City Bus?

11:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You forgot airfair,

AIRFARE, dumbass

11:54 AM  
Blogger nutcracka said...

Anon,

The Metro?
City Bus?


nope, never been on the metro...and I dont live in the city..I mainly hitch-hike

12:09 PM  
Blogger g3jedi24 said...

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12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greta has Joran's statements made to Aruban Police. How the hell did she get those?

12:14 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

Anonymous said...

so obviously you are a Joran supporter
....

I am a supporter of justice. I am a supporter of innocent until proven guilty. I am a supporter of guilt being proven in a court of law, not the court of public opinion or the media.

Clear enough?

12:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is it legal for Greta to have access to the statements if the 3 are still considered suspects?????

1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doxie, I like your moxie.

Clear enough?, she says. Yum.
This obviously has become a media circus and both sides are playing into it. The only way to get this resolved is to get into a court which is what the Holloways are trying to accomplish. These are desperate acts by desperate people who just want some answers. Filing in New York State still doesn't make sense to me or anyone else at our law firm. There is literally zero correlation between this case or anyone involved and the state of New York. It should have been filed in Alabama. We've followed this case from the beginning and there is much more to this than meets the public eye. Your feelings about justice are really sweet, but your ideaologies are skewed. In the absemce of truth, there can be no justice. I am not a supporter of Joran for he tells lies with intent to harm others and won't accept responsibility for his actions. Like it or not. This is a cover up.

Dieter

1:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right on Dieter!




Maryland

1:36 PM  
Blogger g3jedi24 said...

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2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I repeat how does Great have these trans?

2:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill O'reilly ate Joe t up last night. It was wonderful and Joe T is going to make a big pay check from jorans family and run like hell. Dont worry how Greta gets the Trans, She has them and the world will hear them. Pack a lunch joran you dont have much time and this case will be solved same for your buddies time is over almost and Justice will be Natalee's God Bless Bill, Greta, Fox News they will never stop until Natalee has JUSTICE.

2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You better collect Billions and not millions Joran as the cost of lieing has gone up.A court of law will rip you up.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL Your lawfirm and I'm Goldie Hawn..I see the bitter jealous twats are at it again..LOL..must be another day of feeling unimportant. JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

The bank has to OK anything the money is spent on..if you have proof or know of them scamming money at that bank for fraud purposes...notify the authorities. What does that have to do with The 3 suspects last seen with Natalee alive and never seen again..Nothing.

2:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what's up with the chick Tracy, that was assulted 5 days before Nat went missing? Same area. Did they check him out?

2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol - my word verification is lpdamnmb ... lying prick "damn" might be

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tracy is one of Jorans ex beach flings. She was assauled by Joran 5 days before Nat went missing and got preg. She has been away for 9 months having the baby out of the media spotlight. She is going to be a witness in the trial if it ever goes.

2:51 PM  
Blogger Doxiehuahua said...

Anonymous said...
Justice will be Natalee's God Bless Bill, Greta, Fox News they will never stop until Natalee has JUSTICE.

2:19 PM

Too bad that is just reserved for young, blonde, affluent girls.

There is a girl in my area who went missing two years ago. Where are the media talking heads looking for justice for her?

Of course, a young black woman from the projects won't earn them the same ratings. So, I guess she doesn't matter.

2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This has never been about the number of missing people anywhere..Natalee's family went out everyday and did what they could to keep her story out in the media..to keep the story alive..Who on here don't feel bad if a black child, green child, yellow child or whatever is missing. There are blogs all over for missing children but this is one of them concerned with Natalee Holloway. Try those blogs..everyone says that, but when you go on them..not one of them complaining others get no attention are on their talking about the other children missing.

I don't know how much credibility I give the woman with the claims..She might be honest, she might not be..but it does seem wierd that.. If she called the police and gave them the guys description and license plate number..One they didn't believe her or the guy would've been locked up for what she claims he was doing..that's if it really happened and...funny of all the places on the island..she goes to the fisherman huts and people all over and noone came to help her or heard her scream, nor did she say she did.. That just shows me this woman went in broad daylight and was scared..if true and that's why I don't and never have believed any female would stay on the beach in the middle of the night..alone in the dark. unless they were unconscious or disabled. Did the guy take Natalee and Joran's shoes too..

Letting two men sit in jail for 10 days on suspicion of murder and kidnapping isn't cool when you know they are innocent..and who knows if Beth had not seen that Natalee didn't return to the Holiday Inn...those 2 may still be sitting in jail. They only changed their story when caught. When a girl is missing and the cops are misled investigating 2 guys that had nothing to do with it..so they can clean up and get their story together and even if they weren't guilty it was time wasted that could've been spent elsewhere looking for Natalee.. so not cool..

3:13 PM  

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